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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: MK-84 on April 15, 2013, 06:54:26 PM
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I got these from a pawn shop for $20
(http://www.marvgolden.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/h/chbundle.jpg)
It looks identical to the picture.
I do not know how old they are or really anything about them.
I tried setting it up in AH and the yoke seems to work fine but I can not figure out how to set up the pedals. I am not certain the pedals are made for a flight sim. They do not slide, they independently press like pedals in a car. I can seem to only set up one pedal axis for yaw control.
Are these even going to be relevent for AH, or are they way to old to function properly? can I even tell? And how on earth would I set them up if they do work.
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They should slide as well as pivot. Check to make sure the pedal locks are not in place. The pedal locks would be in the groove in front of the pedal. They keep the pedals from sliding so they can be used in driving sims.
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They should slide as well as pivot. Check to make sure the pedal locks are not in place. The pedal locks would be in the groove in front of the pedal. They keep the pedals from sliding so they can be used in driving sims.
(Removes pedal locks, hands in man card) :o
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Yes two black 2 inch clicks that push into grooves :old:
If you got them for $20 well done :)
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They should slide as well as pivot. Check to make sure the pedal locks are not in place. The pedal locks would be in the groove in front of the pedal. They keep the pedals from sliding so they can be used in driving sims.
Those look like they don't slide. There's been a model with just the pivot. IIRC there was a small slider switch in front of the bottom part for "car" and "plane". You can use them for rudder without problems. In fact, not all real aeroplane rudder pedals go back and forth, some act more like those on the picture, operating with ankle movements. -When used as a rudder pedal, make sure that the pedals are configured as one axis only. The aforementioned slider switch may help, also look in the Windows calibration for a tick box about one or two axis functionality.
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The left hand foot peddle just shows the slide on the pic, they do slide Bizman is wrong :old:
But your still awesome Biz :)
On your avatar you have a bear Bizman, ask Pipz what he did to that dancing bear :cry
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Awww, I love you Zack! I may be wrong about those peddles, but I know for sure CH has made ones that only rock, not roll. Err... slide.
As for my bear, notice that he's sitting on his aperture to be safe from Pipz and his likes. He's also having a beer after another, the brand of the beer being "Karhu" which is bear in Finnish. :cheers:
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Those look like they don't slide. There's been a model with just the pivot. IIRC there was a small slider switch in front of the bottom part for "car" and "plane". You can use them for rudder without problems. In fact, not all real aeroplane rudder pedals go back and forth, some act more like those on the picture, operating with ankle movements. -When used as a rudder pedal, make sure that the pedals are configured as one axis only. The aforementioned slider switch may help, also look in the Windows calibration for a tick box about one or two axis functionality.
Those were the old CH Pedals, not the Pro Pedals and were discontinued way back in 1999.
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As the OP said:
I do not know how old they are or really anything about them.
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This is the older style. The base is different. The circle shows the "car" mode, "plane" mode switch.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii253/maddogjoe_photos/pedals_zps4bcaced2.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/maddogjoe_photos/media/pedals_zps4bcaced2.jpg.html)
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There was a blank area that had car/plane mode but it was covered over leading me to believe they wouldnt slide. they do, I had no idea it had slide locks.
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Does anyone actually use these in AH? Good lord
i cant seem to make my feet precise enough to do what I can with a twisty, and the yoke makes every action feel like its in slow motion. I've played for about three hours after FINALLY figuriing out how to set it up and I'm worse than a 2 weeker.
Edit: I can see how using a yoke can be alot more fun while flying a bomber. It feels more genuine, each action more deliberate, but there is a huge amount of travel that I can not seem to compensate for compared with my sidewinder precision pro. (The only stick I have ever used)
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Does anyone actually use these in AH? Good lord
i cant seem to make my feet precise enough to do what I can with a twisty, and the yoke makes every action feel like its in slow motion. I've played for about three hours after FINALLY figuriing out how to set it up and I'm worse than a 2 weeker.
Edit: I can see how using a yoke can be alot more fun while flying a bomber. It feels more genuine, each action more deliberate, but there is a huge amount of travel that I can not seem to compensate for compared with my sidewinder precision pro. (The only stick I have ever used)
I used a CH Yoke Pro for a bit in Air Warrior, testing it out flying the P-38 and it performed just as well as any regular joystick. It just took up too much desk room so I went back to my regular CH stick. Also used the CH Pedals for a time as well to see how well the worked compared to the Pro Pedals but it wasn't as accurate in movement compared to the Pro Pedals for flying but were far better than the Pro Pedals for driving sims.
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I used a CH Yoke Pro for a bit in Air Warrior, testing it out flying the P-38 and it performed just as well as any regular joystick. It just took up too much desk room so I went back to my regular CH stick. Also used the CH Pedals for a time as well to see how well the worked compared to the Pro Pedals but it wasn't as accurate in movement compared to the Pro Pedals for flying but were far better than the Pro Pedals for driving sims.
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The sticker at the base says "pro pedals" Maybe I found something old and crappy? I'm really not sure what I have, and having logged probably over a thousand hours on the same and only stick, have I built habits that are hard to break? or ...well I'm not sure really :uhoh
I see what you mean by the yoke being in the way. It seriously gets in the way of my current setup (I am currently reaching around it to type ) :(
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I can't get anywhere with a twisty stick but I find my ch pedals give me some ability to point my nose where I want. I'm always accidentally twisting and when I try to twist on purpose I get a bobbing PIO. I tried scaling etc. but I just don't have the knack. The control yoke is kinda cute but mine always suffered from the absence of a firm center. Flying instrument approaches in an old simulator called on top, you kept having to wiggle it with your eye on the VSI to figure out where neutral was.
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I used the CH pro pedals for years in AH. You may want to scale them if you are have problems being precise with them. I've found pedals to be far more precise then a twisty stick ever could.
One thing I'll recommend with the CH peds is don't put your whole foot on the pedals, just put your toes over the lip on the heel part of the pedal. I found this gave me better precision control. I also take my feet off the pedals when I'm not using them. I found if I leave my feet resting on the pedals I have a tendency to add a little right rudder.
It takes some time to transition from a twisty to pedals. I think I took more than a month before I was comfortable using rudder pedals.
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The sticker at the base says "pro pedals" Maybe I found something old and crappy? I'm really not sure what I have, and having logged probably over a thousand hours on the same and only stick, have I built habits that are hard to break? or ...well I'm not sure really :uhoh
I see what you mean by the yoke being in the way. It seriously gets in the way of my current setup (I am currently reaching around it to type ) :(
just re-wire your brain to use them. I played with a twisty stick for 8 years and when I got pedals I was ramming everybody trying to line up shots.
Took about 2-4 weeks of :bhead :bhead :bhead then it clicks. If you suck you will continue to suck but it does give you the ability to be more precise and smoother in your flying without rudder dragging.
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just re-wire your brain to use them. I played with a twisty stick for 8 years and when I got pedals I was ramming everybody trying to line up shots.
Took about 2-4 weeks of :bhead :bhead :bhead then it clicks. If you suck you will continue to suck but it does give you the ability to be more precise and smoother in your flying without rudder dragging.
It will take about 2-4 weeks for anything new for you to actually remember to do it the new way. Alongside with that, it'll take some 3 months for your nervous system to build new neural routes, after which doing that routine will be as easy and natural as walking. BTW the new routes will help to slow down symptoms of memory diseases such as Alzheimer's. :aok
My terminology may be somewhat down to earth, I'm not a physician by any means, but the main idea is valid.
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Bizman is awesome :old:
Are you a doctor?
If so I need advice about my rash :rofl
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No, Zacky dear, I'm no doctor. As for your rash, scratching will help only temporarily. There's no cure for old age. :old:
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I got these from a pawn shop for $20
(http://www.marvgolden.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/h/chbundle.jpg)
It looks identical to the picture.
I do not know how old they are or really anything about them.
I tried setting it up in AH and the yoke seems to work fine but I can not figure out how to set up the pedals. I am not certain the pedals are made for a flight sim. They do not slide, they independently press like pedals in a car. I can seem to only set up one pedal axis for yaw control.
Are these even going to be relevent for AH, or are they way to old to function properly? can I even tell? And how on earth would I set them up if they do work.
:airplane: AT the rear of the 2 slider trays for the rudder pedals, there are 2 locking devices used by game car racers...you might have to put a effort with a small screw driver to get them out....as soon as you get them out, save in plastic bag, you can get 5.00 for them at yard sales.