Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: terrydew on May 02, 2013, 06:19:16 PM
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Considering getting a large plasma tv or a projector for a display. Is there a formula to calculate the size monitor needed for the cockpit to be actual real life size? Would need to consider resolution and fov. You can get large plasma tv now for about what a good monitor costs. With the new 4K tvs a large high resolution display is only a year or two away.
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Considering getting a large plasma tv or a projector for a display. Is there a formula to calculate the size monitor needed for the cockpit to be actual real life size? Would need to consider resolution and fov. You can get large plasma tv now for about what a good monitor costs. With the new 4K tvs a large high resolution display is only a year or two away.
A 4k tv will cost you 1,2 - 1,5k dollars. A graphics card that can run a game playably on it will cost an additional 500-1000 bucks. You're going to need the highest end model to play at more then 15fps at 4k resolutions.
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mripley he's not trying to buy a 4k tv.
semp
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mripley he's not trying to buy a 4k tv.
semp
I'm just warning him about the power requirements if he's dreaming of a large high-res screen. He did mention 4k.
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if you have the money, 3 computer monitors will give you better results than a single big tv regardless of its resolution.
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You are correct I am not currently in the market for 4K but I do think lower costs are coming which will make for interesting possibilities. My main question is at a fov of say 95 what size screen will yield actual cockpit size? For example if the real physical airspeed indicator was 3.5 inches then the virtual indicator would be 3.5 inches on the screen. With trackir most of the benefit of the wider 3 screen setups is negated and a larger screen gives a better sense of immersion IMHO.
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With trackir most of the benefit of the wider 3 screen setups is negated and a larger screen gives a better sense of immersion IMHO.
you won't want to say that loud enough for any of the guys around here using track ir with triple monitors...larger screen is just going to give you a bigger picture of what you have now. don't fool yourself. 3 27in monitors will give you better results than a single 55in television (without the input lag)...and cost close to the same price.
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triple monitor is the top for aces
Or triple projectors :D
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I tried the three monitors but the bezel thing is a PIA. I use a 37" Samsung 1080P in my low end machine and a Dell U3014 in the high end machine (will set you back $1500). I love the sharpness of the image at 2560 x 1600. Refresh is 6ms which is ok with me. I have a NVidia GTX 690 in that machine. Got a lot of wife ack for that one :-0. My two cents.
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I use a 39" 1080p tv too. I think I have my FOV at 125 in this picture.
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii253/maddogjoe_photos/big_screen_zpsefaee401.jpg) (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/maddogjoe_photos/media/big_screen_zpsefaee401.jpg.html)
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I use a 42" 1080p tv I think the fov is 105.
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I tried the three monitors but the bezel thing is a PIA. I use a 37" Samsung 1080P in my low end machine and a Dell U3014 in the high end machine (will set you back $1500). I love the sharpness of the image at 2560 x 1600. Refresh is 6ms which is ok with me. I have a NVidia GTX 690 in that machine. Got a lot of wife ack for that one :-0. My two cents.
you get used to the bezel. I dont even notice mine. and I have 3 monitors that I bought at different times from 3 manufactuers, lol. I use magazines to adjust the height so they're at the same level.
I can see from wingtip to wintip and coupled with trakir, you can see everything.
semp
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bezel is annoying but you do get used to it, I couldn't get used to trackIR tho.
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why get a big screen?
Sit nearer to your existing monitor :old:
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Is there a formula to calculate the size monitor needed for the cockpit to be actual real life size? Would need to consider resolution and fov.
Resolution has no effect, only the width of the monitor.
FOV = Field of view angle. (horizontal field of view)
W = width of monitor
D = distance of eyes to monitor.
For the your view to match the real world, the distance to the monitor is calculated by.
D = W / (tan(FOV / 2) * 2)
This is effectively turning your monitor into a window.
HiTech
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When designing a cockpit and what can be seen from the cockpit to be used in AH what scale is used? I assume they are scaled down to keep them proportionally correct.
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I`ve read and heard that the IPS panels like that Dell U3014 aren`t the best for gaming, and have lots of ghosting and other issues. I haven`t tried one myself yet so I can`t say.
I`ve got 3 monitors setup too on my main system, 3 24" Asus 144hz monitors. I was going to go with 27" BenQ 120hz, but went with these because they were on really cheap, almost 1/2 the price of the BenQ's.
I also have a 40" Sony LED 120hz TV that I run as a home theater PC screen in my office, and put games up from time to time on it just for the purposes of seeing how they look on it.
There is NO comparison to the 3 monitor setup, at least for Aces High or any other game. I would even prefer just a single 24" 144hz monitor over the 40" TV screen if it came to that.
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I`ve read and heard that the IPS panels like that Dell U3014 aren`t the best for gaming, and have lots of ghosting and other issues. I haven`t tried one myself yet so I can`t say.
I`ve got 3 monitors setup too on my main system, 3 24" Asus 144hz monitors. I was going to go with 27" BenQ 120hz, but went with these because they were on really cheap, almost 1/2 the price of the BenQ's.
I also have a 40" Sony LED 120hz TV that I run as a home theater PC screen in my office, and put games up from time to time on it just for the purposes of seeing how they look on it.
There is NO comparison to the 3 monitor setup, at least for Aces High or any other game. I would even prefer just a single 24" 144hz monitor over the 40" TV screen if it came to that.
Agreed. My three monitors are old 21" Dell Ultrasharp. They look fine in landscape mode but resolution is only 1680 x 1050. Refresh rate 2ms. Too small for my taste. I tried portrait mode which I prefer but then run into issues with viewing angle. I am fine with my 30 inch and it shows in my score even though I don't play that many hours or even daily. TV's have much less contrast as well as spatial resolution.
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The dell ips panels have some bad ghosting but most others do not..I am running on a 1440p ips panel with a 6ms response time and it is actually faster then my 27in Asus with 2ms response time tn panel..I ran the test with both monitors hooked up and there was less ghosting on my ips.I cant even play on a 1080p monitor anymore lol.I like 3.7 million pixels over 2 million.And i still get 100fps :rock
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Is that one of the IPS panels you can order from Korea on Ebay Numb1? I've been interested in seeing one of them perform, I've read good things from other gamers as well using them. I know my hardware can handle one, I'm not sure about running 3 of them however.
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It is a LG grade A1 panel but the are from Monopice in CA..I didn't want to deal with korea and customs and such.Plus it takes awhile to get your monitor from korea and i didn't want to risk having to send it back..