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Title: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: homersipes on May 09, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
Been driving our hydro-fracking truck which is a 5/2 split with airbrakes for the past couple weeks, my boss asked if I would be interested in getting my class B CDL. :rock need tanker endorsement also for our tanker trucks.  any suggestions or tips?  I already have a medical card, which is how I been driving frack truck, GVWR under 26k.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Volron on May 09, 2013, 06:17:56 PM
A few questions: Will your company be training you?  Will your company provide a vehicle for taking the driving portion of the exam?  Will you be reimbursed for it or will it fall on your dime?  Is there a specific DPS location your company takes their employee's for obtaining there CDL's, or can you just go to any DPS location?

As for taking the actual exam, study EVERYTHING in the Class B section.  It does NOT matter if it will not apply to your job.  I got my CDL for driving buses, but almost every single question given for the written pertained to tractor-trailers.  Good thing I studied up on it all.  2 folks in my class failed it because they didn't and had to come in later on that week and pass or lose their job (company I work for gives you 1 chance if you fail on first go).

As for your hazmat endorsement, I couldn't say.  I believe that one will cost you though.  I'd call and ask.

Be ready for the weight of the heavier vehicles.  26k is light and even the weights I'm driving in are light compared to others.  When I went from the standard 40ft bus to the 60ft articulated bus, I felt the weight for a week.  19tons to 31tons is a slight jump. :lol
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: homersipes on May 09, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
yeah they pay for everything and provide the truck to test with.  got my cdl book yesterday now time to read :aok  Yeah our drill rigs are a lot bigger than the frack truck I have been driving, and 1 of our big tankers is an automatic, which is different to drive.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Volron on May 09, 2013, 06:52:45 PM
Study, then study some more.  After you feel you have it down, study again. :)  And hope you get an instructor that's decent or your driving exam may prove to be a bit of a pain. :lol  One thing to note, if you think people cut in front of you a lot now, wait until you are driving those larger, heavier vehicles. :bhead  You'll notice, if you have not already, that most people are complete retards around larger vehicles. :rolleyes:  They don't realize that all that safety in their vehicle amounts to jack vs something MUCH bigger than them.

If your company doesn't have them, to protect yourself, you may want to get a dash cam as well.  Could save you a lot of headache.  Just remember it's a double edged sword.  I'd check with company regulations and what-not first though. :aok
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Buzzard7 on May 09, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
Go for your A. Get hazmat and tank.
Yes, most people don't realize or care that you outweigh them by huge amounts.

We haul up to 46 tons in our semi trucks.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Volron on May 09, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
IF his company is willing to train him for the A, then by all means, I agree.  Get the A.  Talk to your boss, and see if it's possible if you can go for your A, if your company drives A class vehicles (which sounds like they do).

There is one bit of advice I should've mentioned sooner though, no matter what class/endorsements you get, DO NOT LET THEM GO.  I know guys I work with that have let their Class A's with the H, N, T, X and T endorsements go. :bhead  Don't want to close doors after all.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: ozrocker on May 10, 2013, 06:49:59 AM
Memorize your PTI's :aok
When you take your check ride, use the clutch. (Out of 1st & Reverse is only time I normally used unless testing).
Biggest thing- DON"T HIT ANYTHING :D
Good Luck.


                                                                                                                                    :cheers: Oz

Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Slate on May 10, 2013, 08:32:19 AM
   When backing up on road test you have to stop truck and get out and walk behind truck to check if it's clear. (when I took it in NJ 20+ years ago, may be different now) Also they want you to do a pretrip inspection of the vehicle. The official just stood there taking notes as I described what I was inspecting, slack adjusters, tires, hoses, ect.
    For the hazmat you will be fingerprinted and background checked. Study the test booklets they will give you at the DMV.

      Good luck  :aok
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Dragon on May 10, 2013, 08:42:20 AM
The driving test is just driving.  The rest of the test, walkaround and all the ridiculous questions are the brain draining aspect.  If available, get the A.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: jeep00 on May 10, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
Good luck, study hard, learn the mechanicals, it is a bit intensive. I wsh auto license was half as thorough. Back when I had a Vermont license, it allowed you to legally drive everything except schoolbus and motorcycle. I drove a propane truck for a while.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: WWhiskey on May 10, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
If they will let you,, go for the class A,,,  get all endorsements and keep them!!!
Hazmat pays better an there are a lot more companies hiring for hazmat in case your job goes south!
The written tests will be mostly about class A anyway so no reason not to get it,,, unless your job doesn't want to go that route,IE they won't furnish a tractor trailer
I got it all back in 1983 but let my hazmat go,, now it's a pain in the butt to get,,,  have fun stay safe and keep it out of the ditches!
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: homersipes on May 11, 2013, 08:00:48 AM
 :aok thanks, if I understand, the class A is with a trailer and the class B is not?  I don't plan on letting any go once I get them :D  There are  abunch of companies looking for drivers here, just in case.  My mother in law drives a school bus and she said the worst part of the test is the pre trip :lol
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: eagl on May 11, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Don't let them sucker you into being an instructor.  My little brother drove interstate for a year and they suckered him into being an instructor by offering a tiny bit more pay.  I think he lost all of the extra pay in one second when his trainee let the clutch grab and backed into a pole.  The stress of instructing contributed to his total of around 60 lbs weight gain before he quit.  He might not have quit if he hadn't been teaching.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: mbailey on May 11, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
  One thing to note, if you think people cut in front of you a lot now, wait until you are driving those larger, heavier vehicles. :bhead  You'll notice, if you have not already, that most people are complete retards around larger vehicles. :rolleyes:  They don't realize that all that safety in their vehicle amounts to jack vs something MUCH bigger than them.
 

I could never understand this....why in the name of god would I want to cut in front of something that could make me into something akin to a crushed beercan in less than 5 seconds.........  I drive alot for work, and i see it all the time, just cant wrap my head around some people. You guys have my respect having to deal with all the dipchits on the road these days.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: ghi on May 11, 2013, 07:03:17 PM
Get class A,  buy a truck ; the contractors in oilfields are making more $$ than any equipment operators. I noticed a huge oilfields development over past 2-3 years south of San Antonio to Laredo,Tx.along I-35 and also in North Dakota and jobs posted along the roads on billboards. 
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: WWhiskey on May 11, 2013, 07:05:23 PM
Get class A,  buy a truck ; the contractors in oilfields are making more $$ than any equipment operators. I noticed a huge oilfields development over past 2-3 years south of San Antonio to Laredo,Tx.along I-35 and also in North Dakota and jobs posted along the roads on billboards. 
been there , done that,,  made a lot of money!
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Volron on May 11, 2013, 08:42:09 PM
I could never understand this....why in the name of god would I want to cut in front of something that could make me into something akin to a crushed beercan in less than 5 seconds.........  I drive alot for work, and i see it all the time, just cant wrap my head around some people. You guys have my respect having to deal with all the dipchits on the road these days.


Ehh, you get use to it....


...or you have a psychotic episode. :D



Of all things though, it's people on their cell, talking/texting, that have been the biggest issue.  They cause the most near misses I deal with. :bhead
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: homersipes on May 11, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
I saw a lady brake check an tractor trailer loaded with logs going down hill after she cut in front of him :O  I don't think he missed her by more than a foot
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: Buzzard7 on May 11, 2013, 10:58:36 PM
I blast the horn when they go by me texting. Scares the poo out of them.
Title: Re: getting CDL any pointers?
Post by: eagl on May 11, 2013, 11:09:25 PM
I think if I was an interstate trucker, I'd have a variety of experimental electronic hobby devices, reputed to inadvertently shut down cellphone connections, turned on at all times.  I'm not, so I don't, but I've heard stories about those who do.  Some truckers have some pretty high power CB amps too, so I wonder what running a cellphone noise jammer through a nice amp and high-gain antenna would do to a cellphone in the next car.

There were some problems at some airports near busy freeways, with unreliable GPS signals.  They couldn't get some GPS approaches certified in spite of adding expensive GPS repeaters.  They finally tried the brute-force method of sitting on the airport with a device reporting GPS signal quality, and observed.  Turns out every time certain trucks drove past, the GPS signal became worthless.  Some more investigation led to the realization that there are a LOT of truckers who use GPS jammers, probably to give the finger to their corporate beancounters who question every routing decision they make.