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Title: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 10, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
Come on pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese????
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Karnak on May 10, 2013, 05:20:33 PM
I'd like to see the Fw190A-2 or Fw190A-3 be added when the Fw190s are next looked at.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Debrody on May 10, 2013, 05:26:36 PM
Wassamatta, dood, cant make the A-5 turn? Come ooon, its already a Spit-Slaugterer  ;)
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Babalonian on May 10, 2013, 05:41:01 PM
I can think of a dozen 190s that would be nice aditions (mostly F/Gs, and a couple As and another D) .  :devil

But the A-2/3 is definetley one of them.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 10, 2013, 06:05:53 PM
Wassamatta, dood, cant make the A-5 turn? Come ooon, its already a Spit-Slaugterer  ;)

yeah if I bnZ and don't fight their fight. I like getting low
on the deck
with the A5
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: RedBull1 on May 10, 2013, 08:17:58 PM
yeah if I bnZ and don't fight their fight.
:huh

A5 can turn fight :)
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 10, 2013, 09:39:08 PM
:huh

A5 can turn fight :)

 :banana:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Guppy35 on May 10, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
No more 190s til I get my Spit XII

I wouldn't mind a 109E7 though  :)
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 10, 2013, 09:43:57 PM
There are enough spits as it is  :neener: :bolt:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Guppy35 on May 10, 2013, 10:42:28 PM
There are enough spits as it is  :neener: :bolt:

Agreed, just like there are plenty of 190s :neener:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 10, 2013, 10:51:49 PM
Agreed, just like there are plenty of 190s :neener:

pffft we have 5 to to your 6  :old:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Karnak on May 11, 2013, 08:00:46 AM
pffft we have 5 to to your 6  :old:
Look at the length of the German plane list then look at the length of the British plane list.  :p
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 11, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Look at the length of the German plane list then look at the length of the British plane list.  :p

german:              British:
109.                      Spit
190.                     Typhoon
110.                      Tempest
410.                      Mossie
262
163







Okay if were talking British fighters if say we need the beau, and the meteor, and gladiator. 

Bombers, Halifax, Hudson.


I'll wait for the A3 for
said aircraft
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Megalodon on May 11, 2013, 10:46:03 AM
german:              British:
109.                      Spit
190.                     Typhoon
110.                      Tempest
410.                      Mossie
262
163







Okay if were talking British fighters if say we need the beau, and the meteor, and gladiator. 

Bombers, Halifax, Hudson.


I'll wait for the A3 for
said aircraft

At least make a correct list 17/20.


 Hurricane Mk I
    Hurricane Mk IIC
    Hurricane Mk IID
    Sea Hurricane Mk I
    Mosquito Mk VI
    Mosquito Mk XVI
    Seafire Mk II
    Spitfire Mk I
    Spitfire Mk V
    Spitfire Mk VIII
    Spitfire Mk IX
    Spitfire Mk XIV
    Spitfire Mk XVI
    Tempest Mk V
    Typhoon M
    Boston Mk III
    Lancaster III   

    Bf 109E-4
    Bf 109F-4
    Bf 109G-2
    Bf 109G-6
    Bf 109G-14
    Bf 109K-4
    Bf 110C-4b
    Bf 110G-2
    Fw 190A-5
    Fw 190A-8
    Fw 190D-9
    Fw 190F-8
    Ta 152H
    Me 163
    Me 262
    Me 410
    He 111H
    Ju 87D-3
    Ju 87G-2
    Ju 88A-4

If we were to add another German plane my vote would be for the HS-129.

Imho we have enough brit planes that I never fly :neener:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 11, 2013, 11:41:31 AM
 :neener:

atleast make a complete list,
Ar234 :neener: :bolt:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: mthrockmor on May 11, 2013, 12:15:24 PM
I'm in on the A3.

From my vantage point of not being a computer programmer adding an A3 should be rather easy. It has basically all the same layouts, parameters, etc of the A5 to include the same engine and gun layout only 400lbs lighter. I am interested to know why they added the weight, my guess is armor but not sure. Can anyone add information here?

As for adding planes between Germany and the dreaded Crumpets and Tea Patrol, I say update the 190 by adding the A3; add the British Whirlybird (forgot nomenclature) and the Meteor. It would be nice to get the He-129 though I have read it was slower than the Ju-87G. Again, not an authority on this so happy to read better information.

With the Spit models, is there a 'Mark' that is sorely needed? Someone posted the Mark 12, what are the parameters of that? Is it reasonable to discuss some of the truly late-war models that may or may not have seen combat? Clearly AH rules mean they had to be in squad strength and see combat. Did the Spit 19 or 21 meet the specs?

My list for next adds include...
1. Fw-190A3
2. Whirlybird
3. Japanese Raiden/Jake
4. He-129

Happy to read better selections. I know some have agitated for the Soviet Pe-2, which seems somewhat reasonable but with such a limited gun package.

Boo
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 11, 2013, 12:31:08 PM
The one btritish plane the I thinks deserves to be added is the beaufighter for sure.

Germany need another bomber(I forget the designation title but it had a tail gunner with a 20mm gun)
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Butcher on May 11, 2013, 01:51:10 PM
While I agree down the road a Fw-190a3 could be added, but look at the lineups we have - we have enough 109s, 190s, spitfires, 47s....

France needs some aircrafts, Australia, Russia has what for a plane set? All the planes are 43+

-1 I vote for having OTHER plane sets first - while a 190a3 would get used more then most of the plane sets that absolutely need to be added, Beaufighter, D.520, Mig-3, Yak-1, LaGG-3 the list can go on forever.

Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 11, 2013, 02:17:34 PM
The suspense from added planes is killing me!!'nn
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: save on May 11, 2013, 07:12:54 PM
a1-a4 where a bit shorter than the a5-a9's
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: LCADolby on May 11, 2013, 07:24:13 PM
I'd love an A2

(http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190A/Fw-190A-JG5.12-Yellow-16/images/IL2-HY-Fw-190A2-12.JG5-(Y16+)-Kurt-Kundrus-WNr-5425-Herdla-Norway-1943-V34.jpg)
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Perrine on May 11, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
It has come to my attention that Fw 190A-5 in this game is too uber. 

Performance envelop of A-5's should mirror that of A-8's.

(http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/fw190/fw190a5-climb.jpg)

(http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/fw190/fw190a5-level.jpg)


Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Perrine on May 11, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
on the other hand i'd like to see radial 190s revamped :aok :

- go by even number-numbered subvariants
- add early 190 variant: 190A-4
- scrap 190A-5, replaced with 190A-6

* 190A-8 and F-8 stay as is

Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 11, 2013, 08:52:58 PM
on the other hand i'd like to see radial 190s revamped :aok :

- go by even number-numbered subvariants
- add early 190 variant: 190A-4
- scrap 190A-5, replaced with 190A-6

* 190A-8 and F-8 stay as is


and what about the D9?
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Perrine on May 11, 2013, 09:13:06 PM
and what about the D9?

I said for revamped radial engined 190s.

inlined 190 family (152 included) stay as is.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 11, 2013, 11:43:27 PM
I said for revamped radial engined 190s.

inlined 190 family (152 included) stay as is.

:bhead
misread that
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: save on May 12, 2013, 10:04:04 AM
Perrine, unfortunately our AH  A8 is an extra armoured variant meant for buff-hunting ( not the fighter ), so do not hold your breath on what A5 you ask for.

Only the armour is not included in the AH A8 deal afaik, real life A8 sturmbocks where according to many resources, Very resistant to .50 calibre from front and protected the cockpit side as well.

Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Bino on May 13, 2013, 09:08:28 AM
...
From my vantage point of not being a computer programmer adding an A3 should be rather easy. It has basically all the same layouts, parameters, etc of the A5 to include the same engine and gun layout only 400lbs lighter. I am interested to know why they added the weight, my guess is armor but not sure. Can anyone add information here?
...

The weight increase was due to lengthening the fuselage ahead of the firewall and standardizing on the BMW 801-D engine, if I'm reading my sources correctly.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Perrine on May 13, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
And didn't early 190s had lesser WEP time...?  As per wwiiaircraftperformance.org

Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: save on May 16, 2013, 06:12:14 PM
We have the mid-A5 in game, the latest A5 had 1.67 ATA, like the A8, I do not how many that where equipped so.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Denniss on May 17, 2013, 05:53:14 AM
Only low-alt fighter-bombers had such a boost system, boost permitted up to 1km of altitude. AFAIR boost was 1.58 ata.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: gyrene81 on May 17, 2013, 07:22:38 AM
Only low-alt fighter-bombers had such a boost system, boost permitted up to 1km of altitude. AFAIR boost was 1.58 ata.
say what?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: LCADolby on May 17, 2013, 01:51:24 PM
(http://www.fantasticflyers.com/images/50323.jpg)
3.JG5  :D
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: Zacherof on May 17, 2013, 05:45:26 PM
(http://www.fantasticflyers.com/images/50323.jpg)
3.JG5  :D

Yes! :aok

Can we also get the plastic variant? Then it will really turn :devil
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: alpini13 on May 17, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: ScottyK on May 17, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
(http://www.fantasticflyers.com/images/50323.jpg)
3.JG5  :D


 i have that 1:72 diecast replica  :aok, along with the black 13 JG3 A8 we have in game and 2 109s.
Title: Re: Fw-190A3
Post by: R 105 on May 18, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
Perrine, unfortunately our AH  A8 is an extra armoured variant meant for buff-hunting ( not the fighter ), so do not hold your breath on what A5 you ask for.

Only the armour is not included in the AH A8 deal afaik, real life A8 sturmbocks where according to many resources, Very resistant to .50 calibre from front and protected the cockpit side as well.


While the 190-A8 was very well armored in real life. I find I get pilot wounded in it easier than I do in a P51 here in the game.