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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wegaman on March 06, 2001, 04:05:00 PM
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Aces High has airplanes. There, i am talking about Aces High.
THis might of been discussed before, but what do you guys think of WW2 online. I like it.... plus it's not 30 bucks a month.
[This message has been edited by Wegaman (edited 03-06-2001).]
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Its also not AH, thus rendering this a topic for the O'Club.
AKDejaVu
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You might try the WWIIOL bulletin board. I bet there's a lot more chance of you finding guys that will be playing WWIIOL there.
What do ya think?
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Deja,
You beating all the records, only 1 minute since original posting (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Its also not AH, thus rendering this a topic for the O'Club.
AKDejaVu
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jesus u guys r stiffies.
I wanted to know what you ACES HIGH PEOPLE think of it. Just wonderin if you guys would leave AH for ww2online if it turns out to be good. I know i would be tempted.
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Quick someone pull the corn cob outta deje vu's rear (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Wegaman:
jesus u guys r stiffies.
I wanted to know what you ACES HIGH PEOPLE think of it.
Since your post in no way touches AH (no comparison of particular features, for example), this post does rightly belong in the O'Club forum. We ACES HIGH PEOPLE (excuse me for shouting) read that one too.
Originally posted by Wegaman:
I like it.... plus it's not 30 bucks a month.
It is not being sold yet. When it comes out, we will know how good it is and how much it costs. If you think that you can judge a game by a few screenshots or promises or bulletin board activity, you are sadly mistaken.
miko
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Jesus, everyone take a deep breath and give the kid his aorta back.
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I dont have any opinion on it yet, as i havent played it. Im a bit worried that the wheels turn so damned slowly over in that Rat camp.
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Takes Bait and begins RUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NUTTZ
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na i like it in this forum . why the hell not. o club is for republican rants mostly anyway.
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Why do you guys always have to get offended when someone asks a question for you people? If its not AH then you all go all out on the guy that brought it up. Cut it out.
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Cant answer that. I havent played it. It not released yet...
That a better answer frosty.
As for the 10.00 a month, that just means ill have an account for AH and WWII. But WWII will only be Subs, unless HT gives us a Sub.
Dog out.......
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i'll give it a shot and may even get an account but won't leave aces high - more than graphics and what not, there's just lotsa people who like shooting me down here and everyone's scores would suffer dreadfully if i left (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Jesus, everyone take a deep breath and give the kid his aorta back.
Rofl!! oh Cod, that tickled me funny bone good (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
-Westy
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Hey Wegga: How can anyone know what to think about WW2OL if it's not out yet. There is a story about one of the original participants/survivors of the battle of the little bighorn or Custer battle. Book writers and newspaper reporters constantly hounded a Lakota man named Good Fox for accounts of the battle. Good Fox replied: "There are a hundreds of books written about this the Custer battle by people who were not there- I was there-and all I saw was one big cloud of dust".
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I think if you were to ask, most AH fans like late war stuff. As for me, If the early war planes didn't discourage me, The recommended system spec,s sure did.
FWIW I think "Its not just a flight sim " because "its just a ground sim". From everything I've read over there, you are just going to be flying support, if you are in a fighter. That sounds very realistic, and very boring.
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Its a legitamate question. Are you going to keep playing Aces High when WW2 Online comes out, and why?
This is a HUGE question, since WW2OL potentially could kill AH.
I will try it, and if I find no game killing faults, then I am definetly going to switch. I have flown enough planes for awhile (and I don't think variety makes it better, in fact having to be restricted to one or two designs in a historical matchup is fresh and new to me).
I was hoping the addition of vehicles, then navy ships would make this game a fully combined arms sim, but the navy and army are only partially implemented. They're not really playable as is.
The Virtual Battlefield is the game I wanted since I started playing games. Why it has taken so long to make a good version of it is very odd to me.
The only thing I would regret is leaving HiTech and Pyro and the rest, since this is one of my favorite games. I hope that WW2OL doesn't put them out of buisness, I really do.
But, I am not going to play both. I will pick the better one and go with that.
Hans.
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Gotta disagree there Easymo,
If the flight model is equal to WB/AH, I'd say it would be a blast. Chess vs checkers. I for one am tired of the same old fantasy dogfight every night. I want all the surprise and suspense a persistent scenario with next generation icons will bring.
I'm gonna be playing in German armor at 1st. Let me give you an example. My platoon commander might radio HQ for some air cover. You might take a Bf-109 escort mission for the Stukas we've asked for. Stukas need to be less than 10k to find their prey. Spitfires will be coming. Prepare for a low-alt malee with dozens of your teammates below on the ground watching you succeed or fail!
Dogfighting is the most fun I've had online so far, but I'm itching to try something with a lil' more depth. Might be big fun! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Braz
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yeah this fantasy dogfighintg, F4u's vs P51's i ain't too hot on it.
If they can pull off all the stuff they r boasting.... only time will tell. The only thing is, with the ideas about rank and mission points, it will encourage support missions, and team work. Something lacking i feel in AH.
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also the cool thing is, when you bail out u can get a ride with someone!!! Or walk around wiht your 45 and try to cap someone (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by -towd_:
o club is for republican rants mostly anyway.
true that. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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This is a HUGE question, since WW2OL potentially could kill AH.
Hans you must ba about 10 if you really think that. You can't see beyond the tip of your own excitement and realise that others just may not want a "WorldWar All Generals! All the Time! Online".
I could play both if I want to. No biggy. But I can't stand reading the boards let alone get excited about playing with a bunch of "ph34R m3 eL1t3 d3wDz"
Yes. That is my honest thought as regards to WW2O. I'll try it out but if I hate the "Generals try and surpress the furballers" crap here I know I'm going to hate it over there!
We'll have perks, they'll have rank. Points, points, points. We have a mission planer. Oh! So do they. Folks here aren't forced to play by any set of rules (to the chagrin of many) They won't be in WW2O either. I think many of you are missing that key issue. They have a very small, limited release of early war planes. We have ALOT of mid and late war planes.
The only things I see that WW2O has that AH doesn't is foot soldiers, bridges and no paying customers.
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 03-07-2001).]
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"Quick someone pull the corn cob outta deje vu's rear"
This is not possible since he and the cob share vital organs. To seperate them would result in the death of either him or the cob.
I can't wait for WWII online to come out. It may be neat... Then again... it may be some nightmare everquest live 24/7 online thing. Still... If it were the latter, I wouldn't mind seeing some hardcore AH strat freaks leaving for WWII.
lazs
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Anyone remember the early topic here where a guy just went off on AH and HTC about the inaccuracy and simplicity of the B-17 Flight Model here?
Rant, rant, rant..followed by "just wait until B-17II gets here! THOSE guys are even modeling the bugs smashing on the windscreen as you take off! Now THAT'S going to be a REAL FLIGHT SIM!"
All this long before B-17II ever hit the store shelves. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Wonder why we haven't heard from HIM? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I think many people have unreasonable expectations for WW2OL. I hope they will be able to adjust if it doesn't instantly meet and exceed the personal standards they have set in their minds.
It's an incredibly massive undertaking into new uncharted territory. Only time will tell. I wish them well, BTW. Anyone doing WW2 ACM is OK in my book!
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I don't understand all the fuss around WW2OL..
It's not out yet. We'll see if and when it is.
Aces High is out here and now, let's enjoy it.
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WWII OL looks interesting, though, I expect to have worse flight models, but superior vehicle handling than in AH.
Terrain will be also more richer what comes to some *real* cover and not just some on/off ground clutters.
It'll be interesting how it will work, since it is *very* big project they're working on..
I do of course hope that they get it good, since it would be really a blast to have simulation wheres vehicles, planes, ships....
Though, I might be more worried about it being too big for too few players.
Think about the soldiers, everyone is supposed to be a real player and yet there should be tanks and planes!
I really wonder how it will work... and if technology works, will there be enough players?
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I'm just happy that there's other WW2 flight sims out there. Never understood the disgruntled feelings towards other WW2 sims. It's good we have such a great game like WW2OL coming out. I look forward to trying it out and I hope by all means that it is 200 % better than AH in every area.
fscott
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Quoted from Toad:
Anyone remember the early topic here where a guy just went off on AH and HTC about the inaccuracy and simplicity of the B-17 Flight Model here?
Rant, rant, rant..followed by "just wait until B-17II gets here! THOSE guys are even modeling the bugs smashing on the windscreen as you take off! Now THAT'S going to be a REAL FLIGHT SIM!"
All this long before B-17II ever hit the store shelves.
I sure do; "the boost pressure is way off, why don't my dials line up correctly"... I even alluded to this fellow about a week ago in another (similar) thread. I don't know about you guys, but B17II hasn't pulled me off AH yet. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I'm with ya all the way, Toad. I think the sim will do just fine, eventually. I do strongly believe it is going to go through teething pains, as all sims do, but more so because of the extremely unrealistic expectations generated. Nothing can live up to the hype that has been generated.
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B17 was Hasbro screwing me out of $50. Don't get me started...
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I wish them well over there. And im sure you are right. They will start out with a realistic FM. Then the whines will start. "I cant even take off". The auto take off will be added. "Its to hard". In goes the ezmode button. I've seen it before.
OH! I left out. "of course we have to make the bombers ack stars. Or no one will fly them". And " of course a panzer commander could bring down a plane, with his Swiss army knife, look how much armor the had.
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Auto take-off only gets them into the air, the rest is up to them.
-SW
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I think the biggest threat, on a business level, to AH is TK. You only have to read this thread to see why. If it go,s. You can set an arena up any way you like. It will be hard to point a finger with that option.
Hell, there are guys over there, talking about building WW1 arenas.
[This message has been edited by easymo (edited 03-07-2001).]
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The fact we all cannot deny is that Aces High is the best game going to date. Hitech could squash the WW2 online scuttlebut by adding the optional historical arena to keep us strat and fun with authenticity guys here.
I bet subscriber numbers would jusify it and definitly by this summer.
OK time for the soapbox. The late war fantasy planes and furballs do have a place here. I even like it sometimes (although very rarely). What would please the sceptics me included would be to rotate a historical map out weekly.
Example: week 1, Battle of Britain.
Map out England and France and log in either as a German or Brit and fly the correct plane set. I think you would see at least 50 members on each side slugging it out knocking off JU88s, spits vs 109s hurricane buff busting, you get the idea.
Other weeks could be ETO ops (my favorite) pacific battles etc. The bottom line for me is if someone provides that type of fun for me they will get my money. Hitech provides fun for me know and I think they are thinking ahead to something that resembles this at least i hope so anyway. WW2 online may be a serious threat maybe not but competition will keep things fresh and challenging...
sorry for the long winded rant.
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Easy guys. He's gone. we can go back to having fun now.
Wonder what he'll do when he realises that it aint going to be any different? lol.
I am tired of Aces High, so i canccleed my account. Tired of f4u's fighintg p51's,
tired of the game being like a "war" yet all u fly are airplanes. Tired of unfair
sided 3 way war, tired of knocking a base out and nobody will goon, tired of 1 shot
ack kills, tired of super fleet ack, tired of no ground war, supply system, or team
work. Tired of all their toejam that costs 360 dollars each year.
(ie:cod those webboards suck. not as bad as some but they sure do take the cake right now among the "contenders")
btw, from:
http://www.playnet.com/bv/wwiiol/dg_message.jsp?forumOID=8651&forum=Off-Topic+Discussions&msgID=20972&BV_SessionID=@@@@0297946947.0984014175@@@@&BV_EngineID=dalkfkcmkiibjgbgfecfihc (http://www.playnet.com/bv/wwiiol/dg_message.jsp?forumOID=8651&forum=Off-Topic+Discussions&msgID=20972&BV_SessionID=@@@@0297946947.0984014175@@@@&BV_EngineID=dalkfkcmkiibjgbgfecfihc) kk.0
<shakes head> the url addy is as long as the post.
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 03-07-2001).]
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Hans you must ba about 10 if you really think that.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/mad.gif) Excuse me? I happen to have my options open, and I do think a niche game like AH with such a small subscriber base could be really hurt bad if even a fraction of it leaves.
If you want to insult me by assuming I'm a snot nose kid with no idea of what I am talking about, then this conversation is over, and the childlike behavior that ended it wasn't from me.
But, I still beleave my argument is true. WW2 Online could really cut deep into AH.
...And where do you think all these 2-week free trial wonder pilots are all comming from? The name Aces High is dropped daily on their forums as an example of what to expect (because Cornered Rat and Hitech Creations used to be one company that did WarBirds).
WW2OL is wonderful advertising for AH thru word of mouth, but when its open it could swing the other way.
Hans.
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Granted, asking if you were 10 was a bit harsh. I should have asked if you'd actually thought much at all about what AH is and what WWW2O wants to be. If you can't see the obvious problems then it's because you're behaving like a 10 yr old who is infatuated with a new toy that he has not even been given yet. Far be it from me to burst your fantasy bubble.
-Westy
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WWIIonine and WBIII aren't even out!!! I think AH subscriber base is growing. The grass is always greener, but you can fly right now in AH.
I think HTC has a whole different philosophy then these other online sims. I believe it's a winning philosophy!!! The numbers prove it!!