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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Traveler on May 17, 2013, 04:50:28 PM
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Currently anyone can get an BBS ID and have at it in the forums. I'd like to limit the forum area to paying members. Anyone could read the posts, but only paying members could post.
Have at it.
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do you mean paying account in game? and what if people cant pay for the time being its unfair to allot of people who cant pay there AH account and if they needed to post they would not be able to so bad idea
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do you mean paying account in game? and what if people cant pay for the time being its unfair to allot of people who cant pay there AH account and if they needed to post they would not be able to so bad idea
Yes, I mean paying account members. The members of AH that are paying their account be the only people allowed to post in the BBS forums.
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Yes, I mean paying account members. The members of AH that are paying their account be the only people allowed to post in the BBS forums.
Well some people can't have there mummy and daddy pay for them and can't get what they want as moneys tight
Translation: No
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i had tons of questions before dropping a quarter in. wasn't till after i had questions answered that I signed up a week later to play.
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sure, why not. that policy exists in other games.
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Well some people can't have there mummy and daddy pay for them and can't get what they want as moneys tight
Translation: No
Well, my mother and father are dead. I've paid my own way now for a very long time.
As to the matter of a forum that only paying member may post in, why not, wouldn't be a better way for the paying members to express their desires and help provide feed back for those that are paying the bills at HTC.
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i had tons of questions before dropping a quarter in. wasn't till after i had questions answered that I signed up a week later to play.
Not saying that questions couldn't be directed to HTC so the potential customer got the correct answer from the people that would know best. And every question that you might have asked, the answer is available on the HTC Web Site, free to everyone. You could even have one forum area that none members could post in to ask questions for HTC. I'm just saying all other forums areas be for paying members. I'd also agree that any user ID valid in the game be allowed to post, and only valid game ID's be used. That would include people on the two week trial.
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Not saying that questions couldn't be directed to HTC so the potential customer got the correct answer from the people that would know best. And every question that you might have asked, the answer is available on the HTC Web Site, free to everyone. You could even have one forum area that none members could post in to ask questions for HTC. I'm just saying all other forums areas be for paying members. I'd also agree that any user ID valid in the game be allowed to post, and only valid game ID's be used. That would include people on the two week trial.
HTC doesn't have the staff to field those questions reliably and in a timely manner.
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htc has had the fourm the way it is for a long time from i have seen so why change it now
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Not saying that questions couldn't be directed to HTC so the potential customer got the correct answer from the people that would know best. And every question that you might have asked, the answer is available on the HTC Web Site, free to everyone. You could even have one forum area that none members could post in to ask questions for HTC. I'm just saying all other forums areas be for paying members. I'd also agree that any user ID valid in the game be allowed to post, and only valid game ID's be used. That would include people on the two week trial.
So when I cancel my account tomorrow, I should not be able to post my AH stats for the community any more? Ex-members currently not paying for AH for any reason are not meant to stay in contact with the rest of the community, thus increasing the chance of a comeback? Doesn't sound exactly like a good idea for the business.
What would be the benefits of "members only" that would offset this?
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Perk the forum! :rofl
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Perk the forum! :rofl
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Best idea I've seen in years!!!!!!
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HTC doesn't have the staff to field those questions reliably and in a timely manner.
Why would you state that the staff of HTC can not provide a reliable answer to a question?
As I've said before, Most questions Asked by now-paying browsers of the forum could be answered by a Frequently Asked Questions page on the HTC website or by the mountains of information already contained within the web site.
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Why would you state that the staff of HTC is not provide a reliable answer to a question?
As I've said before, Most questions Asked by now-paying browsers of the forum could be answered by a Frequently Asked Questions page on the HTC website or by the mountains of information already contained within the web site.
There may be mountains but there ain't no picks and shovels. Some of the info on the website is out of date and frankly it is not always that easy to come by. It would be ideal if there were an index and a truly searchable info source but there really isn't. The same questions get asked again and again but what's the harm?
More to the point what exactly is the problem that making the forum exclusive would fix?
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So when I cancel my account tomorrow, I should not be able to post my AH stats for the community any more? Ex-members currently not paying for AH for any reason are not meant to stay in contact with the rest of the community, thus increasing the chance of a comeback? Doesn't sound exactly like a good idea for the business.
What would be the benefits of "members only" that would offset this?
Wanted to get this right so here goes:
So when I cancel my account tomorrow, I should not be able to post my AH stats for the community any more?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, if you chose to not continue your subscription, you would not have access to post on the forum. You would be able to read and look at anything, just not post. Only members with active accounts would be able to post.
Ex-members currently not paying for AH for any reason are not meant to stay in contact with the rest of the community, thus increasing the chance of a comeback?
Both active and inactive members of my Squad use Email to stay in touch. You could try that. I've never seen any stats of how many former members come back to an active status because of the BBS. Most that I know of say they miss the flying.
Doesn't sound exactly like a good idea for the business.
Are you kidding, HTC would have a clear line of communication to the paid membership, A clear picture of what direction the paid membership would like to see the game progress. A much better barometer of what the actual bill payers want and are looking for , then currently exists.
What would be the benefits of "members only" that would offset this?
Not sure what you are asking here, what do you mean by "this", are you referring to the existing BBS, Open to everyone and anyone including the HTC haters?
You don't see the benefit of a members only BBS that just about every other Online game has adopted?
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There may be mountains but there ain't no picks and shovels. Some of the info on the website is out of date and frankly it is not always that easy to come by. It would be ideal if there were an index and a truly searchable info source but there really isn't. The same questions get asked again and again but what's the harm?
More to the point what exactly is the problem that making the forum exclusive would fix?
I didn't say there was a problem. But tell me this, what's wrong with an actual perk for being a paid member and that paid membership granting access to and the ability to Post in the BBS.
The rest of the world can read everything in the forums, but only current active members have the ability to post. Perhaps that might lure non paying visitors to the forum to join up. Because a benefit of a subscription is the ability to post in the BBS.
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htc has had the fourm the way it is for a long time from i have seen so why change it now
and because it's always been this way it can never change, never. After all I hate change. Change is never good. I'll hold my breath if it changes, I'll turn blue and die.
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There may be mountains but there ain't no picks and shovels. Some of the info on the website is out of date and frankly it is not always that easy to come by. It would be ideal if there were an index and a truly searchable info source but there really isn't. The same questions get asked again and again but what's the harm?
More to the point what exactly is the problem that making the forum exclusive would fix?
As I've said, a FAQ section for the web site would go a long way to answering 90% of the questions. When I was new here a long long time ago, I read what was available on the web site for new players , I read all of it, different generation. Granted you have a point about the organization and currency of the information. I read what was in the web site, not the forum. I didn't post in the forum for a very long time. I was also surprised to see that people that never flew in AH were posting in the forum. Providing miss-information to some of the newbi questions.
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Why would you state that the staff of HTC can not provide a reliable answer to a question?
As I've said before, Most questions Asked by now-paying browsers of the forum could be answered by a Frequently Asked Questions page on the HTC website or by the mountains of information already contained within the web site.
You misunderstand me. I don't mean their answer would be inaccurate. I mean the answer might not happen at all due to their other tasks taking precedence. Further, it would require the prospective player to find the way to pose their question without being able to pose it on the forums.
Seriously, this is a bad idea. I understand where it is coming from, but it is a bad idea. Subscriber only forums are fine for a monolithic company like EA or Activision-Blizzard, but they would harm a small company like HTC.
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You misunderstand me. I don't mean their answer would be inaccurate. I mean the answer might not happen at all due to their other tasks taking precedence. Further, it would require the prospective player to find the way to pose their question without being able to pose it on the forums.
Seriously, this is a bad idea. I understand where it is coming from, but it is a bad idea. Subscriber only forums are fine for a monolithic company like EA or Activision-Blizzard, but they would harm a small company like HTC.
I read what you wrote, I didn't miss-understand, perhaps, you stated it incorrectly. I don't follow your logic with the following:
it would require the prospective player to find the way to pose their question without being able to pose it on the forums.
I have no idea what that means?
Yes, I'm saying that one forum page for questions to HTC would be available to non-subscribers as well as subscribers to post on. The Help and Training Forum, available to everyone, to post in. But all the other forum pages would only be available to post in by subscribers all other's read only.
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I didn't say there was a problem. But tell me this, what's wrong with an actual perk for being a paid member and that paid membership granting access to and the ability to Post in the BBS.
The rest of the world can read everything in the forums, but only current active members have the ability to post. Perhaps that might lure non paying visitors to the forum to join up. Because a benefit of a subscription is the ability to post in the BBS.
I don't understand. Are you saying that there is no problem with the current system but that it should be changed to exclude people interested in AH so that a perk can be created? Doesn't that kind of alienate some members of the "community"? I would argue that if the thing is working leave it alone. Create perks by creating instead of removing capabilities.
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I don't understand. Are you saying that there is no problem with the current system but that it should be changed to exclude people interested in AH so that a perk can be created? Doesn't that kind of alienate some members of the "community"? I would argue that if the thing is working leave it alone. Create perks by creating instead of removing capabilities.
What is it that you don't understand, yes, there is no problem. I'm asking for a change in the wishlist forum, just because someone wishes for something, that doesn't mean there is a problem. My suggestion doesn't exclude anyone, my suggestion is that everyone can read every page in the forum both members and now members. That everyone can post in the Help and Training forum, members and now members. That only valid game ID's be allowed to post in all other forum pages. Please define what you believe is a member of the community? Is it someone that is paying for the game and by that extension this forum? No capabilities will be removed for a paying member. I'm trying to create a perk for paying members. That perk is the ability to post on any forum page. By the way, can I borrow your buggy whip?
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Why, what would be gained?
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There may be mountains but there ain't no picks and shovels. Some of the info on the website is out of date and frankly it is not always that easy to come by. It would be ideal if there were an index and a truly searchable info source but there really isn't. The same questions get asked again and again but what's the harm?
More to the point what exactly is the problem that making the forum exclusive would fix?
There is an index to sort out the information already available on the website, look at the Support tab, click on Help. there is also a FAQ tab under Support already that does a very good job. Of course the person would have to Read. Not something that the younger generation does very well.
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If a requirement of playing AH was participation on the BBS then it might have some value.
My impression has never been that the BBS crowd determines much of anything. I like that the powers that be participate and respond, but I do believe they have thier own plan for the game.
As near as I can tell the boards are the least active they've been since I've been around. No need to make them even quieter.
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Why, what would be gained?
What would be gained would be a clearer voice for the subscribers, currently that voice is sometimes drowned out, diminished by the non-subscribing public.
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If a requirement of playing AH was participation on the BBS then it might have some value.
My impression has never been that the BBS crowd determines much of anything. I like that the powers that be participate and respond, but I do believe they have thier own plan for the game.
As near as I can tell the boards are the least active they've been since I've been around. No need to make them even quieter.
Perhaps the powers that be discount the BBS crowd because they have no way to determine if the post is from a subscriber or not.
Why is it that you feel the boards would be quieter. Don't you think the BBS should reflect the people that actually play the game?
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Perhaps the powers that be discount the BBS crowd because they have no way to determine if the post is from a subscriber or not.
Why is it that you feel the boards would be quieter. Don't you think the BBS should reflect the people that actually play the game?
I think they should reflect the people that have played the game and have a shared interest in WW2 aviation. Many a former player has posted or still posts on the forums. We have had any number of aviation history minded folks post in sections of the forum. I'd hate to see them shut out just because they may not play the game.
It seems to me that when HTC wants input they ask and I believe they have the ability to take the responses they get and use them appropriately.
Also, it would be too bad if someone considering subscribing had to commit to it before they could ask questions or interact with current or former players via the BBS.
Seems to me HTC would lose far more than they would gain by limiting those who could participate on the BBS.
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What is it that you don't understand, yes, there is no problem. I'm asking for a change in the wishlist forum, just because someone wishes for something, that doesn't mean there is a problem. My suggestion doesn't exclude anyone, my suggestion is that everyone can read every page in the forum both members and now members. That everyone can post in the Help and Training forum, members and now members. That only valid game ID's be allowed to post in all other forum pages. Please define what you believe is a member of the community? Is it someone that is paying for the game and by that extension this forum? No capabilities will be removed for a paying member. I'm trying to create a perk for paying members. That perk is the ability to post on any forum page. By the way, can I borrow your buggy whip?
That buggy whip quip just lost you any credibility. Since you can write in coherent sentences I am going to assume that the paradoxical language that you are not excluding anyone while excluding them from posting is deliberately provocative and that makes your posts consistent with trolling behavior. Maybe your not trying to troll but your doing a great job of it.
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It was really useful for me to be able to post in the Help & Training forums and get some training advice before I ever activated an online account
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I am a paying customer using the BBS and I would like those who for whatever reason are not currently subscribing to the game to be able to keep in touch with those who are. This wish makes no sense to me considering the lack of "HTC SUCKS ACES HIGH SUCKS WAKE UP SHEEPLE AND QUIT PAYING THEM FOR THIS CRAP!" posts I was able to find which is the only rational argument I could decipher from any of this. :huh
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-100%. This is a rather poor idea, there is zero benefit to HTC or the community.
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Also, it would be too bad if someone considering subscribing had to commit to it before they could ask questions or interact with current or former players via the BBS.
not to agree with Traveler but, any of you guys objecting, can you point to the 5 most recent forum posts from someone who wasn't a subscriber asking questions that resulted in that person becoming a subscribing member?
and sorry but the tired bellybutton excuse of former suscribers keeping in touch on the forums might wash if they only posted in the o'club...
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not to agree with Traveler but, any of you guys objecting, can you point to the 5 most recent forum posts from someone who wasn't a subscriber asking questions that resulted in that person becoming a subscribing member?
and sorry but the tired bellybutton excuse of former suscribers keeping in touch on the forums might wash if they only posted in the o'club...
I still have not heard ANY logical reason why only people with active subscriptions should be allowed to post on the BBS.
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I still have not heard ANY logical reason why only people with active subscriptions should be allowed to post on the BBS.
take a look just through the wishlist area and see if you can find all the offline squeakers asking for some seriously stupid stuff...then look in the general discussion area for all the posts about "the good ole days" from people who no longer have a stake in what happens with ah (there were some that had been out for years and had no clue what was going on). personally, if i couldn't see anything but the staff announcements, help and training and the oclub after i dropped my sub, i would have been more than fine with it.
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take a look just through the wishlist area and see if you can find all the offline squeakers asking for some seriously stupid stuff...then look in the general discussion area for all the posts about "the good ole days" from people who no longer have a stake in what happens with ah (there were some that had been out for years and had no clue what was going on). personally, if i couldn't see anything but the staff announcements, help and training and the oclub after i dropped my sub, i would have been more than fine with it.
Plenty of people currently paying for the game suggest stupid things, and there are plenty of silly whine posts from subscribers as well. Perhaps the former player asking for something on the wishlist has a good idea even if he is not currently playing the game? Perhaps he simply wants something new to do that would give him incentive to come back and give HTC his money again? You are not forced to read posts you don't want to and I am pretty sure HiTech is intelligent enough (Even when mildly drunk) to know that a stupid suggestion is a stupid suggestion no matter who it comes from. :old:
Also "Forum for Members Only" makes it sound like somebody got the BBS mixed up with a country club. :rolleyes:
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Perhaps HTC should charge an extra 5.00 a mo to be able to post. I'm mean seriously, what has it hurt for non subscribers to post? Show me where it has been a detriment to the AH community? The posters in the AH forums is a rather small percentage of overall players in AH. The cool thing about forums is you can see who posted the original thread, and not read it.
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not to agree with Traveler but, any of you guys objecting, can you point to the 5 most recent forum posts from someone who wasn't a subscriber asking questions that resulted in that person becoming a subscribing member?
and sorry but the tired bellybutton excuse of former suscribers keeping in touch on the forums might wash if they only posted in the o'club...
Coombz just posted commenting how posting in the help and training helped him before subscribing. I can think of a number of people with history interests who contribute in Aircraft and Vehicles, or the skinning forums. We were kept up to date on the health of Morpheus via the bbs after his accident by squad dies who were not actively flying at the time. Morph was finally able to post himself and he was obviously not flying.
Personally since I started in AH way back when, there have been times where I was not an active player but kept involved via the BBS because my history background allowed me to contribute to discussions on any number of things. Doing so kept me active in the community even though active playing of the game was not in the cards at the time.
Do you want me to start listing the names of all the AH vets that still contribute via the boards now or do you get the idea?
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Coombz just posted commenting how posting in the help and training helped him before subscribing. I can think of a number of people with history interests who contribute in Aircraft and Vehicles, or the skinning forums. We were kept up to date on the health of Morpheus via the bbs after his accident by squad dies who were not actively flying at the time. Morph was finally able to post himself and he was obviously not flying.
Personally since I started in AH way back when, there have been times where I was not an active player but kept involved via the BBS because my history background allowed me to contribute to discussions on any number of things. Doing so kept me active in the community even though active playing of the game was not in the cards at the time.
Do you want me to start listing the names of all the AH vets that still contribute via the boards now or do you get the idea?
depends on your definition of "contribute", there is a lot more cruft in areas that should be exclusively contributing content. take off the rosey glasses and the amount of stupid is much higher than the amount of useful. and as for your reference to coombz, i did mention the help and training forums didn't i? as for the Morpheus reference, that could have been accomplished in the oclub, like i also mentioned...
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If you think limiting the Amount of stupid will happen by limiting the forums you are the one with the rose colored glasses.
The community that began in part due to the game, over time expands beyond the game. HTC seems to recognize that and helps sustain it via the BBS. It just isn't about a squad or even only the game.
I'd like to think folks are capable enough to separate the stupid from the worthwhile on thier own. The ignore list is a wondrous feature if you don't want to read what some folks post.
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I'm still having trouble seeing what this would do for the community, AH, or HTC. Do you or the OP have stats on non subscribers posting? Is there a pandemic going on that most of us seem to miss?
Do you feel like non subscribers are taking away from your chance to post? If its about showing you're "elite" because you pay, well you get to play the game, and in the past when HTC has had a vote on new aircraft, only subscribers have been able to vote.
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What would be gained would be a clearer voice for the subscribers, currently that voice is sometimes drowned out, diminished by the non-subscribing public.
To what end? HTC doesn't implement posted suggestions unless they think they are good suggestions. What does it matter if the idea is from a subscriber or from a former player? Often former players have a better grasp of what might be good for the game than a current subscriber. HTC doesn't pay attention to how popular a request is, and I recall HiTech saying something to the effect of "Give the players what they want, not what they ask for."
As was noted earlier, only subscribers, or people on their free two weeks, get to vote on new aircraft when HTC puts up such a poll.
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I'm still having trouble seeing what this would do for the community, AH, or HTC. Do you or the OP have stats on non subscribers posting? Is there a pandemic going on that most of us seem to miss?
Do you feel like non subscribers are taking away from your chance to post? If its about showing you're "elite" because you pay, well you get to play the game, and in the past when HTC has had a vote on new aircraft, only subscribers have been able to vote.
i'm just playing devil's advocate, obviously you missed where i said "not that i agree with traveler"...i know how much many around here dislike change of any sort if it doesn't make the game better in their view, even if there is some small nuance of benefit to all.
tell me what happens when you click on this link... http://members.iracing.com/jforum/forums/list.page (http://members.iracing.com/jforum/forums/list.page)
that company has 35,000+ registered paying members world wide...mostly due to the genre. and their main website has a ton of information as well as links to videos that are informative where access to the forums for information isn't really necessary. then again there is a big staff to field questions, maintain faq's and generally keep things up to date. if you can't log in to the main members page, you can't get to the forums. considering the amount of drama that is involved from active subscribers there, i couldn't imagine what would happen with non-subscribers having access to the forums. Skuzzy does a great job of cat herding here and in the short time i've been around here the number of grievers posting crap has been manageable for ah management, but imagine if the numbers were 10 times what exists now, would any of you nay sayers be objecting to the idea of "subscribing members only"?
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Here's an Idea... Make your own private Forum on here (ask Skuzzy he can do it for you) and invite only people you want/trust.
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I'm still having trouble seeing what this would do for the community, AH, or HTC. Do you or the OP have stats on non subscribers posting? Is there a pandemic going on that most of us seem to miss?
Do you feel like non subscribers are taking away from your chance to post? If its about showing you're "elite" because you pay, well you get to play the game, and in the past when HTC has had a vote on new aircraft, only subscribers have been able to vote.
I think it would cut back on a lot of the "mis-information" spread around on the boards. Too many people posting that either never have played, or haven't play in years haven't a clue as to what is going on in the game and are basing their "information" on heresay, or "fond" memories.
A possible new player reading the boards now may read some mis-information and decide this isn't the game for him. Leave the "help" open for non-subsrcibers to ask those questions they can't find by searching :O the BBS, and leave the "Oclub" open so the "quitters" :devil can stay in touch. The rest of the boards be be open only to those paying for a subscription. Then it would be up to those posters to post responsibly :rolleyes: to keep the info honest and up to date.
Of course less than 5% of the subscribers to the game post here as it is. Are the boards really a place for players to get help, or just a place to "chat it up"?
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What would be gained would be a clearer voice for the subscribers, currently that voice is sometimes drowned out, diminished by the non-subscribing public.
In what way is the subscribers voice drowned out by non subscribers, and who is it that is not able to hear the subscribers voice?
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I see a lot more wrong information posted by newer players than I do by former players. Generally, if a former player cares enough to keep posting here they were at least moderately well informed to begin with and have at least paid some attention to changes since canceling their account. The other kind of former player posts tend to be ones looking for old squadmates and friends, posts which are unlikely to contain misinformation.
On the other hand I see a lot of the same old misunderstandings posted by new players that older players have learned the correct answers to. Things like the collision system stand out.
For the record, I am still a subscriber, though I rarely play now, and would not be directly affected by such a change. I am not arguing to preserve my ability to post.
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I think it would cut back on a lot of the "mis-information" spread around on the boards. Too many people posting that either never have played, or haven't play in years haven't a clue as to what is going on in the game and are basing their "information" on heresay, or "fond" memories.
A possible new player reading the boards now may read some mis-information and decide this isn't the game for him. Leave the "help" open for non-subsrcibers to ask those questions they can't find by searching :O the BBS, and leave the "Oclub" open so the "quitters" :devil can stay in touch. The rest of the boards be be open only to those paying for a subscription. Then it would be up to those posters to post responsibly :rolleyes: to keep the info honest and up to date.
Of course less than 5% of the subscribers to the game post here as it is. Are the boards really a place for players to get help, or just a place to "chat it up"?
5%, Please where did you get that stat?
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I see a lot more wrong information posted by newer players than I do by former players. Generally, if a former player cares enough to keep posting here they were at least moderately well informed to begin with and have at least paid some attention to changes since canceling their account. The other kind of former player posts tend to be ones looking for old squadmates and friends, posts which are unlikely to contain misinformation.
On the other hand I see a lot of the same old misunderstandings posted by new players that older players have learned the correct answers to. Things like the collision system stand out.
For the record, I am still a subscriber, though I rarely play now, and would not be directly affected by such a change. I am not arguing to preserve my ability to post.
Just how do you determine if the poster is a current or former subscriber?
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In what way is the subscribers voice drowned out by non subscribers, and who is it that is not able to hear the subscribers voice?
I think Fugitive said it best:
I think it would cut back on a lot of the "mis-information" spread around on the boards. Too many people posting that either never have played, or haven't play in years haven't a clue as to what is going on in the game and are basing their "information" on heresay, or "fond" memories.
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5%, Please where did you get that stat?
I believe that someone from HTC posted 3% once, I was being generous.
Look at the stats, the most ever on line was 351 and that was 5 years ago. Normal for a day is around 100, and I'd bet most of those are the "same ol' boys". With over 3000 active subscribers to the game, you do the math.
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Currently anyone can get an BBS ID and have at it in the forums. I'd like to limit the forum area to paying members. Anyone could read the posts, but only paying members could post.
Have at it.
After discussions here and reflection I'd like to update my request that the Help and Training and O club forum remain as is, all other forum pages be open as read only to everyone and only current valid game ID's (paid subscribers and two week trial members) be able to post.
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Just how do you determine if the poster is a current or former subscriber?
I've been here a long time. I see old names who used to play a long time ago, I see mentions of thinking of coming back and such. Having the forums closed would make it less likely that they would come back.
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5%, Please where did you get that stat?
tell me what happens when you click on this link... http://members.iracing.com/jforum/forums/list.page (http://members.iracing.com/jforum/forums/list.page)
that company has 35,000+ registered paying members world wide...mostly due to the genre. and their main website has a ton of information as well as links to videos that are informative where access to the forums for information isn't really necessary. then again there is a big staff to field questions, maintain faq's and generally keep things up to date. if you can't log in to the main members page, you can't get to the forums. considering the amount of drama that is involved from active subscribers there, i couldn't imagine what would happen with non-subscribers having access to the forums. Skuzzy does a great job of cat herding here and in the short time i've been around here the number of grievers posting crap has been manageable for ah management, but imagine if the numbers were 10 times what exists now, would any of you nay sayers be objecting to the idea of "subscribing members only"?
Ok devil, you make an excellent point that if things were completely different then they are, changing something to solve a problem that would then exist would be a good idea. On the other hand, as things actually are, I think you could make the argument that AH has a tiny player base and so any way of maintaining a connection with people who have payed and might come back or are considering paying should probably be kept instead of broken to create a perk which I don't think would really induce anybody to pay. Of course I could be completely wrong, I don't understand how anybody puts up with those games where the game is free but you buy stuff so I admit I am completely out of touch, probably why I like AH.
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I think... [I am the only one who really gets it.]
:lol :lol :lol :lol Fugi
5%, Please where did you get that stat?
The same place he gets all his information, LaLa land.
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You are ignoring this user. Show me the post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dork).
A prime reason for allowing the OP's wish. While I can add them to the ignore list others still get to read the stupidity some of these people post and could take it as "gospel". Does that help the game?
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A prime reason for allowing the OP's wish. While I can add them to the ignore list others still get to read the stupidity some of these people post and could take it as "gospel". Does that help the game?
That isn't an argument for the OP's wish, it is an argument for more aggressive policing and banning by HTC. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater does more harm than good.
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I've been here a long time. I see old names who used to play a long time ago, I see mentions of thinking of coming back and such. Having the forums closed would make it less likely that they would come back.
The forums would not be closed, They non-paying public would be able to read all the forum pages, but only post in the Help and Training and Oclub pages.
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That isn't an argument for the OP's wish, it is an argument for more aggressive policing and banning by HTC. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater does more harm than good.
But as has been stated before, HTC doesn't have the resources to aggressive police the BBS. For the most part the BBS is a non-revenue generating enterprise.
I think their time is better spent on real gaming issues.
Perhaps a solution a wish that the BBS ID, be linked to the Active Member ID and provided somewhere identifying the status of the poster. I'd like to know when I read a post if the person posting is a paying member.
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I'm not saying I don't like this wish............but...I'm glad this wish will likely never make it through like 99.9% of the others and hopefully get lost in the pages of wishes :)
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Perhaps a solution a wish that the BBS ID, be linked to the Active Member ID and provided somewhere identifying the status of the poster. I'd like to know when I read a post if the person posting is a paying member.
There you go. I think that is a good idea. Doesn't take anything away, enhances transparency.
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Perhaps use designations of subscriber, former subscriber and guest or something like that.
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ooops
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One of the things we have on the Pigs site and may work here is a Members Only Area. Basically only registered Squad Members can see it and access it. So same thing here for paying subscribers to have a Members Only Area Forum is not such a bad idea.
With some work I'll give the wish a +1.
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that's kinda the transition Traveler's wish has gone to Waystin...members only areas that are either hidden from view (which is being done to some people now), or that are read only for non-subscribers and areas where non-subscribers can fully interact and get questions answered.
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I have a few forums that are private I am on, we share ideas and clown around. Mainly its to keep up with old friends of the game, share stuff that skuzzy wont PNG you.
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So instead of limiting what we have,why don't you wish for single subscribers forum on the bbs where only the paying player can view by signing in with his game ID and password.
Then in theory HTC can heed the call of the paying player, which seems to be what you are looking for. It can be the forum for the special kids...kind of the short bus forum for the overly needy and mistrustful.
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So instead of limiting what we have,why don't you wish for single subscribers forum on the bbs where only the paying player can view by signing in with his game ID and password.
Then in theory HTC can heed the call of the paying player, which seems to be what you are looking for. It can be the forum for the special kids...kind of the short bus forum for the overly needy and mistrustful.
I don't think HTC will care whose paying or not, any good ideas is money in his bank so to speak.
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MUZIK <---- Alert, Alert, Non-subscriber! Non-subscriber here!
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MUZIK <---- Alert, Alert, Non-subscriber! Non-subscriber here!
Gasp! No post for you!!
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Forums are public by definition.
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Currently anyone can get an BBS ID and have at it in the forums. I'd like to limit the forum area to paying members. Anyone could read the posts, but only paying members could post.
Have at it.
I think he's trying to get rid of me :noid :noid :noid
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Negative ma'am. Dumb idea, Thanks for playing.