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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Zacherof on May 23, 2013, 10:58:48 AM
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262's carried 24 of the R4M rockets on wooden racks
Fired in salvos or all at once. Similar trajectory to the MK-108 tater so the standard Revi gunsight was retanied
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R4M
http://stormbirds.com/warbirds/tech_r4m_rocket.htm
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may as well make them available to the 190-d9 as well...
http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2012/06/r4m-rocket-toting-fw-190-dora.html (http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2012/06/r4m-rocket-toting-fw-190-dora.html)
as if you really need the firepower... :rolleyes:
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may as well make them available to the 190-d9 as well...
http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2012/06/r4m-rocket-toting-fw-190-dora.html (http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2012/06/r4m-rocket-toting-fw-190-dora.html)
as if you really need the firepower... :rolleyes:
since the 262 cost 250 everytime I go to use it I might as well take all the poof makers I can get.
And I'll happily take them on a D-9
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considering the perk cost...don't get into a turn fight...learn to pick better...and use a 152 to practice killing bombers before you use a 262 for bomber hunting.
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+1
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considering the perk cost...don't get into a turn fight...learn to pick better...and use a 152 to practice killing bombers before you use a 262 for bomber hunting.
who said anyhing about turn fighting. I have a 21 to 1 kill death ratio in that bird. I know how use it reasonably well, and aim the taters Most kills are someone taking off or landing , or bombers below 15k.
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who said anyhing about turn fighting. I have a 21 to 1 kill death ratio in that bird. I know how use it reasonably well, and aim the taters Most kills are someone taking off or landing , or bombers below 15k.
are you saying most of your kills are from vulching and picking?
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are you saying most of your kills are from vulching and picking?
vulching no. If your more than 2k away from your field I consider you fair game. Say what you want, call it what you want. My other kill come fromBelow them.
If your low, or slow not my problem. This game is not about fairness.
If your SA is bad not my problem. I'm an oppurtunist. Yes I love getting down and dirty placing skill against skill, but If I see a free kill with minimum risk involved I'm a bad guy?
And in the rare case that I do vulch, not my problem that guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Plain and simple, I use the 262 to bust hordes, kill the goons, and kill them if I can get a gun solution.
I'm sorry for being unfair and not giving someone(bish for example) a fair fight cause given the chance they ho and only ho and run for ack.
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I feel we are being cheated. Get 'em on our lufty birds that carried them.
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vulching no. If your more than 2k away from your field I consider you fair game. Say what you want, call it what you want. My other kill come fromBelow them.
If your low, or slow not my problem. This game is not about fairness.
If your SA is bad not my problem. I'm an oppurtunist. Yes I love getting down and dirty placing skill against skill, but If I see a free kill with minimum risk involved I'm a bad guy?
And in the rare case that I do vulch, not my problem that guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Plain and simple, I use the 262 to bust hordes, kill the goons, and kill them if I can get a gun solution.
I'm sorry for being unfair and not giving someone(bish for example) a fair fight cause given the chance they ho and only ho and run for ack.
No worries Zach. Kill em all and let HTC sort it out. :aok
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No worries Zach. Kill em all and let HTC sort it out. :aok
exactly! :banana:
:joystick: pew pew!!!
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Problem with the R4Ms is the same one the 262s have. There are no prectical limits to the numbers you can deploy.
The logistical concerns that they had to deal with in real life don't exist in AH.
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logistical concerns can be "simulated" with eny and perks...
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262's carried 24 of the R4M rockets on wooden racks
Fired in salvos or all at once. Similar trajectory to the MK-108 tater so the standard Revi gunsight was retanied
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R4M
http://stormbirds.com/warbirds/tech_r4m_rocket.htm
- no. Like the 163 the 262 did not play a big enough roll in WW2 so neither should really be in the game to start with
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- no. Like the 163 the 262 did not play a big enough roll in WW2 so neither should really be in the game to start with
true, but they are icons of a desperate nation at war.
I'm not making a ridiculous wish saying a want the shadow cell 50mm rockets on a 163, but a weapon that was used and helped to achieve kills. And might as well give them to the other aircraft that carried them.
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My only issue with R4M is that you shouldn't be able to fire one or two rockets, you would only have a one time shot as in real life.
As for accuracy - you would be extremely lucky to get one hit if any on a bomber as they made a shotgun cone effect.
However like everything else, it would be perked even more - and the rocket rails would degrade the 262 - so beware what you wish for.
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- no. Like the 163 the 262 did not play a big enough roll in WW2 so neither should really be in the game to start with
Translation: I don't like luft birds so make them go away.
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Translation: I don't like luft birds so make them go away.
No only 8 kills for a 163 in WW2....and why is that a game changer in the war....can you answer that????? The birds and gv's in this game are based on.....how many made, and impact on the war. 262 not much better!
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No only 8 kills for a 163 in WW2....and why is that a game changer in the war....can you answer that????? The birds and gv's in this game are based on.....how many made, and impact on the war. 262 not much better!
163 not a game changer. But the 262 was not to be taken lightly. Somedays only 20 262's would attack 1000 bombers, and like 750 mustangs.
Had there been more 262's things would be different.
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Problem with the R4Ms is the same one the 262s have. There are no prectical limits to the numbers you can deploy.
The logistical concerns that they had to deal with in real life don't exist in AH.
I suggest you familirate yourself with this perk system that AH has. I'm sure you find it very facinating and that it addresses this "concern" you have.
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163 not a game changer. But the 262 was not to be taken lightly. Somedays only 20 262's would attack 1000 bombers, and like 750 mustangs.
Had there been more 262's things would be different.
"HAD" there been and only 542 kills. Like I said not a good argument for having either in the game. I thought to have a a/c or gv in game it had to have mass production, service time, not some end of the war experimental thing :salute
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:aok, they had em, they used em, we should have em too
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"HAD" there been and only 542 kills. Like I said not a good argument for having either in the game. I thought to have a a/c or gv in game it had to have mass production, service time, not some end of the war experimental thing :salute
mass production is not a requirement. Combat and seeing squadron strength is, hense why we have the jets.
But I'm an idiot for posting this in the wrong Forum again :bhead
btw Germany had a bunch of fighters at in 1945, matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong, bu I believe their production output was at an all time high. Just no av-gas :aok
:salute
I'm simy wishing for an additional atribute for a tool some of like to use. Curveball for scenarios to boot.
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"HAD" there been and only 542 kills. Like I said not a good argument for having either in the game. I thought to have a a/c or gv in game it had to have mass production, service time, not some end of the war experimental thing :salute
Then also remove the P47M, F4U-1C and if memory serves me correctly there weren't a whole lot of Tempests or Spit16's by the end of the war. :)
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"HAD" there been and only 542 kills. Like I said not a good argument for having either in the game. I thought to have a a/c or gv in game it had to have mass production, service time, not some end of the war experimental thing :salute
Hitech hasn't stated clearly, but the general idea has always been "seen combat" If you look at the F4u-1C only 200 or so were made? TA-152 less then that.
I say leave the 163 alone for Aces High - its not a game changer, rather its a Rocket powered interceptor that stops idiots from porking HQ every hour - imagine if we didn't have the 163? the 163 also has enough short comings - Lack of range and ammo - not everyone can hit with twin 30mms - and if you are not gentle with the throttle you are out of fuel in 7 minutes.
262 on the other hand is not a game changer either - for the perks involved - how many people exclusively fly the me-262? Very few. Now I have in the past flew dozens of 262 sorties back to back, if you stick around one area to long, 262s start hunting you. On top of that the 262 seems to me to be extremely weak when it comes to taking hits, you will lose an engine or oil almost automatically - trying to land on one engine is extremely risky, let alone if you lose both engines as the 262 does NOT glide, secondly if a 262 loses an engine, its best speed can be caught by most midwar fighters.
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let alone if you lose both engines as the 262 does NOT glide
I have found it to be a very good glider.
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Then also remove the P47M, F4U-1C and if memory serves me correctly there weren't a whole lot of Tempests or Spit16's by the end of the war. :)
Those, and the Me262 and Me163, all had mass production. There are no units in this game that were not produced in an industrial manner.
"Winners" of the low production awards in AH:
Ta152H-1 (less than 50)
Ostwind (less than 50)
Wirbelwind (less than 50)
Brewster (less than 100)
P-47M (100)
F4U-1C (200)
C.205 (250)
Me163 (370)
N1K2-J (416)
Everything else is well over 500 so far as I know. Me262 was about 1200 (only a couple hundred were used though), Tempest was was about 700 and the Spitfire Mk XVI was about 1200, or about 4300 if you merge it with the Spitfire LF.Mk IX.
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+1
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btw Germany had a bunch of fighters at in 1945, matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong, bu I believe their production output was at an all time high. Just no av-gas :aok
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Sorry, I have to correct you since you're wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_production_during_World_War_II
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Sorry, I have to correct you since you're wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_production_during_World_War_II
oi 1944 it is :cheers:
Btw were just hunting for a post to correct me? :neener:
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oi 1944 it is :cheers:
Btw were just hunting for a post to correct me? :neener:
Yes. It took a lifetime and was painful. ;)
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oi 1944 it is :cheers:
Btw were just hunting for a post to correct me? :neener:
No need to hunt :old:
:noid
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Nothing like the idea of vulching at 800mph