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Title: JU-52
Post by: -ammo- on May 27, 2013, 09:56:21 AM
Just because it's cool and the HTC staff apparently doesn't have anything to do (J/K).

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/bigsargewells/DSC_0656.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/bigsargewells/media/DSC_0656.jpg.html)

Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on May 27, 2013, 10:04:06 AM
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/NonUS%20WWII%20Paratroopers%20and%20transports/German/4583641442_a0b7bc3395_z_zpsf1b5013f.jpg)
Notice the almost tearful beckoning in the photograph.
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Zacherof on May 27, 2013, 10:51:07 AM
Just because it's cool and the HTC staff apparently doesn't have anything to do (J/K).

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb1/bigsargewells/DSC_0656.jpg) (http://s207.photobucket.com/user/bigsargewells/media/DSC_0656.jpg.html)


+1 and +1 for dat skin :x
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: lyric1 on May 27, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Bruv119 on May 27, 2013, 01:48:12 PM
+1

cool plane, Axis need a transport. 
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Denniss on May 27, 2013, 02:06:30 PM
Odd but also nice looking aircraft. BTW correct designation is Ju 52/3m
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Karnak on May 27, 2013, 02:49:01 PM
+1

cool plane, Axis need a transport. 
They have a transport, the L2D 'Tabby'.  :p
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on May 27, 2013, 02:49:53 PM
(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junker-ju-52-3m-g3e-kampfgeschwader-335-luftwaffe-1935.jpg)

Junker JU 52-3m g3e, Kampfgeschwader 335, Luftwaffe, 1935.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g3e-legion-condor-bando-nacional-1936.jpg)

Junkers Ju 52-3m g3e, Legion Condor, 1936

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g3e-fuerza-aerea-nacional-1937.jpg)

Junkers Ju 52-3m g3e, Spain, 1937

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g3e-anexion-de-austria-13-abril-de-1938.jpg)

Junkers JU 52-3m g3e, 1938

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-para-transporte-de-heridos-1940.jpg)

Junkers JU-52-3m, 1940.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g5e-creta.jpg)

Junkers JU 52-3m g5e, Crete 1941.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-con-camuflaje-de-invierno-frente-del-este-1942-1943.jpg)

unkers JU-52-3m, 1942-1943.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g6e-seetransportstaffel-1-creta-noviembre-dee-1943.jpg)

Junkers JU 52 -3m g6e, Crete 1943.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g7es-7c2ba-cuerpo-aereo-frente-del-este-1943.jpg)

Junkers Ju 52-3m g7es, 1943.

Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: lyric1 on May 27, 2013, 08:01:45 PM
(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junker-ju-52-3m-g3e-kampfgeschwader-335-luftwaffe-1935.jpg)

Junker JU 52-3m g3e, Kampfgeschwader 335, Luftwaffe, 1935.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g3e-legion-condor-bando-nacional-1936.jpg)

Junkers Ju 52-3m g3e, Legion Condor, 1936

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g3e-fuerza-aerea-nacional-1937.jpg)

Junkers Ju 52-3m g3e, Spain, 1937

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g3e-anexion-de-austria-13-abril-de-1938.jpg)

Junkers JU 52-3m g3e, 1938

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-para-transporte-de-heridos-1940.jpg)

Junkers JU-52-3m, 1940.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g5e-creta.jpg)

Junkers JU 52-3m g5e, Crete 1941.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-con-camuflaje-de-invierno-frente-del-este-1942-1943.jpg)

unkers JU-52-3m, 1942-1943.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g6e-seetransportstaffel-1-creta-noviembre-dee-1943.jpg)

Junkers JU 52 -3m g6e, Crete 1943.

(http://soldadosyuniformes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-52-3m-g7es-7c2ba-cuerpo-aereo-frente-del-este-1943.jpg)

Junkers Ju 52-3m g7es, 1943.



Lets get some snakes on the plane.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/JU%2052%20Transport/JunkersJu-529-ZG26Francia1940_zps47783c13.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/JU%2052%20Transport/JunkersJu-529-ZG26Francia1940_zps47783c13.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/JU%2052%20Transport/EDU00004424_3_l_zpse1067d9f.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/JU%2052%20Transport/EDU00004424_3_l_zpse1067d9f.jpg.html)

Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on May 27, 2013, 09:43:37 PM
I just realized an error of negligence on my part when I saw your plane profile.  :(
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Fish42 on May 27, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
Lets get some snakes on the plane.

If we do get that and the skinner who does that skin better change the pilots face to this,

(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/01/11/1226187/929757-snakes-on-a-plane.jpg)
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: 5PointOh on May 27, 2013, 10:50:07 PM
+1 for slow target drones that will only see use in special events....
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Dragon Tamer on May 27, 2013, 11:14:45 PM
+1 for slow target drones that will only see use in special events....

It's got a gun (all be it a small one), last I checked the goon had none unless you lean out the window with a Thompson. I'll bet if it is added, it would end up seeing more action than a goon.

+1
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: 5PointOh on May 27, 2013, 11:33:37 PM
I doubt it, the C-47s speed advantage will make it the favorite for troop movement.  Look at the SDK vs M3 in usage, M3 is staple do to speed.  Maybe the first month or two it would be used, but after that it will probably be left in the stable next to the SDK.


C-47
General characteristics
Crew: 4 (Pilot, Co-Pilot, Navigator, Radio Operator)
Capacity: 28 troops
Payload: 6,000 lb (2,700 kg)
Length: 63 ft 9 in (19.43 m)
Wingspan: 95 ft 6 in (29.41 m)
Height: 17 ft 0 in (5.18 m)
Wing area: 987 ft² (91.70 m²)
Empty weight: 18,135 lb (8,226 kg)
Loaded weight: 26,000 lb (11,793 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 31,000 lb (14,061 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Pratt & Whitney R-1830-90C Twin Wasp 14-cylinder radial engines, 1,200 hp (895 kW) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 224 mph (195 kn, 360 km/h) at 10,000 ft (3,050 m)
Cruise speed: 160 mph (139 kn, 257 km/h)
Range: 1,600 mi (1,391 nmi, 2,575 km)
Ferry range: 3,600 mi (3,130 nmi, 5,795 km)
Service ceiling: 26,400 ft (8,045 m)

Climb to 10,000 ft (3,050 m): 9.5 min


JU-52
Data from Jane’s Fighting Aircraft of World War II
General characteristics
Crew: 3 (two pilots, radio operator)
Capacity: 18 troops or 12 litter patients
Length: 18.90 m (62 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 29.25 m (95 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 10 in)
Wing area: 110.5 m² (1,190 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,510 kg (14,325 lb)
Loaded weight: 9,200 kg (20,270 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 10,990 kg (24,200 lb)
Powerplant: 3 × BMW 132T radial engines, 533 kW (715 hp)[33] each

Performance
Maximum speed: 265 km/h (165 mph) at sea level
Cruise speed: 211 km/h (132 mph)
Range: 870 km (540 mi)
Service ceiling: 5,490 m (18,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 17 minutes to 3,050 m (10,000 ft)

Armament

Guns: * 1 × 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine gun in a dorsal position
2 × 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 15 machine guns

Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: lyric1 on May 28, 2013, 12:06:30 AM
last I checked the goon had none unless you lean out the window with a Thompson.


Get the right goon & you can have 4 guns. Hell I will give you bombs if you like. :aok

Sorry I lied I can't give you that.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Li23.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Li23.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Li24-1.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Li24-1.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Li2.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Li2.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Li25.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Li25.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Li21.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Li21.jpg.html)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Li211.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Li211.jpg.html)
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Eric19 on May 28, 2013, 06:03:24 AM
we get JU52 then I want my C54 skymaster for resupping the strats.... :neener:
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 28, 2013, 08:31:44 AM
Am I reading it correct in that the Ju52 can carry more cargo weight than the C47?  Even if it is %25 slower, it is could carry more troops and gv supplies.... it may be worth it.  Perhaps give it a more beneficial ENY/OBJ score compared to the C47 (reduce the C47 down to 35 ENY)?

I'd like to see it.   :aok
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: 5PointOh on May 28, 2013, 09:02:16 AM
Well the C47 could carry 28 troops (which ours is limited by HTC to 10) and the JU-52 is maxed at 18.  If you are looking at empty weight vs loaded weight the C-47 wins again by almost 2,000lbs.
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on May 28, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
+1 for slow target drones that will only see use in special events....

You're making a 'It doesn't add to the MA' argument? Seriously?  :lol

The MA reached uber-saturation with the B-29. Can a better buff be added? Nope.

And the P-51D, F4u-4 .... hell .... the 262? Hard pressed to add any fighters.

Uber tanks already.

Ah, it already had the C-47.

Yes, the gap-filling may well be for special events. Imagine that.  :)

p.s. That would be every Euro setting with a capture component in the design.
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: 5PointOh on May 28, 2013, 11:29:23 AM
Actually, the C54 would be the uber transport.  Why are your feathers in ruffle, I gave it a +1.  Although I do enjoy seeing you "gap filler" types spaz out.
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on May 28, 2013, 11:31:30 AM
Actually, the C54 would be the uber transport.  Why are your feathers in ruffle, I gave it a +1.  Although I do enjoy seeing you "gap filler" types spaz out.

Oh, this isn't a 'spaz out' ... this is a clue by four.  :D
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: -ammo- on October 24, 2013, 11:11:41 AM
*Punt*

I wish we had this AC for the November FSO: http://ahevents.org/fso-current-next-event.html
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: alpini13 on October 24, 2013, 11:26:49 AM
no,too slow, other axis transport better suited for the role and historically accurate...SM-82
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: -ammo- on October 24, 2013, 11:29:31 AM
Still - it is the correct transport for the November FSO.
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: gyrene81 on October 24, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
no,too slow, other axis transport better suited for the role and historically accurate...SM-82
not going to happen before the ju-52 and you know it...

better suited and historically accurate huh? i'd like to see your evidence the sm.82 was used in russia...
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on October 24, 2013, 11:50:14 AM
Still - it is the correct transport for the November FSO.

alpini doesn't care about that. He's on a mission.  ;)
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: -ammo- on October 24, 2013, 11:52:11 AM
alpini doesn't care about that. He's on a mission.  ;)

AHA!  So his mission is not parallel to mine :D
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: Arlo on October 24, 2013, 12:00:10 PM
AHA!  So his mission is not parallel to mine :D

Nor mine. We should shoot him down while we have him out-numbered.  :D
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: -ammo- on October 24, 2013, 01:18:58 PM
Nor mine. We should shoot him down while we have him out-numbered.  :D

Agreed :aok

HiTech had this AC modeled in WBs.  Shat, when I first started WBs in '99 my definition of "goons" was a JU-52
Title: Re: JU-52
Post by: save on October 26, 2013, 06:03:26 PM
i think ju52 came after Hitech and crowd already left ...
I know they added some planes like the b24 and j2m2 and the j2m3 , i do not remember if the ki-44 was post-hitech time.