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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: thedoom26 on June 01, 2013, 01:59:14 AM
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Has anybody here know body who has went through depression Because right now i have it and i find it very difficult, i have insomnia from it, and when i do sleep, i sleep all day,
Aces high is kinda a outlet for me, to kinda connect to somebody, Because with depression its made me Anti-social...Like, i mean I just want to be left alone,then with hanging with somebody, Aces high 2 takes my mind off things and i can connect to some people....If you have any tips on how to fight this, id like to know em, I dont want to lose this battle....because most people who do, never come back....Thanks
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yup...you might want to get it checked out and make sure it's not something physiological that is off balance. if there is something off kilter, then it can be easily treated with meds. if not, you can still get meds or, in rare cases overcome it with whatever you find works for you. i just take 2000iu of vitamin d3 daily and keep my mind busy including reminding myself of all the good in my life, no matter how miniscule.
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I used to have some pretty bad depression. There was a cause for it though, not sure if it's the same for you or if you're just having moments of depression for some unknown reason. Honestly the way I lost most of my depression (still have some times when it hits since the cause for it back when I first started having bad cases of it is still around) was I found something that made me happy and made me laugh. It was as simple as that.
I can't say that I became Anti-social because of my depression since I was always anti-social, but being anti-social is not a bad thing at all. Some people (I'm one of them) like being alone with our thoughts and the quietness. If you want to be social but your depression is keeping you from doing so then that may be a problem, but don't go thinking that being anti-social is some kind of bad or weird thing or is wrong. Not only will that just add to your depression, it's also the wrong kind of thinking.
That's all the advice I can give. At least you have the right mind set. The brain is quite the amazing thing. If you tell your body that you will not lose, then it will not lose. When things start getting tough just tell your body "I refuse to lose!" and you won't lose.
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Spot on latrobe :salute
hope you get through it man.
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thanks eveybody :salute
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I've suffered from chronic depression since I was young. I, personally refuse to take meds, but that's not necessarily wise for everyone. I use meditation for sleep(not mediCAtion), and when I feel a bout coming on, I refuse to submit to it and get myself busy, interacting with people who I know will improve my mood, or working or doing a hobby. The main thing that improved my ability to cope was to avoid where possible situations , shows, movies et cetera that i know will trigger the depression. Go to your doctor and talk to them about your situation, there is NO shame in getting help!
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Some folks dislike the meds, others are fine with them. Personally, I'm all for the meds (Fluvoxamine, IIRC) as it gives me some damn peace and quiet inside my head, helps me sleep, helps me focus, helps me just friggin do stuff, because even mundane, everyday stuff takes on a context when you're depressed that makes it damn hard to function.
Do NOT try to wrestle with it yourself, get a doc involved. If you'd twisted your knee and it was painful and interfering with your life, you'd seek help straight away. People seem to think that they should just "buck up", "pull their socks up", "man up" etc when it comes to depression. Just increases your isolation, deepens your inability to cope and generally makes things worse. Bottom line - go speak to a doc, fast, because depression is an illness which needs to be properly treated.
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I have plenty of reasons for depression, seem to rack them up in life as ya go along..
Nature of the beast I guess..
Bathing in misery, within a self inflicted purgatory of guilt, is something in which have great
experience.. But there is nothing I can do to change that now, so it JUST IS!
I know that, no matter what, the sun will rise tomorrow on a new day.. The world will keep
turnin, no matter the tribulations of my life.. Self recrimination will never change that..
So I Ruck up, and Drive on, cuz there is nothing else to do in life..
Good luck!
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I strongly believe that good, constructive, fun and rewarding work with people you respect leads to the most positive things in life and helps you to avoid most of the negative things. :aok
If you don't have that, you might want to start looking, but that's just my opinion based on experience. :salute
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Get a bicycle.
I started riding within the last few months to keep from going stir crazy when work really slowed down. I have a ho-hum comfort hybrid that is pleasant to ride and I have to tell you the scenery on the paved trails and paths is generally pretty good.
(http://abovethelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/woman-jogging.jpeg)
(http://www.timony.com/jokes/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/girl_on_bike_1.jpg)
Plus you'll eventually talk to some decent people, might catch an exhibitionist display and take in some good sights.
I recently splurged a bit on clipless pedals and cleated shoes which actually do help with efficiency. I did 40 miles yesterday and the extra weight is melting off.
You'll feel better, it's free to pedal, you'll get healthier and you'll improve your self image. Crank some endorphins and improve yourself!
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doom, you need to see your doctor about this, now. For me it was bad enough that things I would really enjoy doing, I just didn't find them enjoyable at all. I had a LOT of trouble sleeping, was ALWAYS tired as a result. I missed quite a bit of work as well due just unable to bring myself to do anything, and me being so damn tired all the time. I cannot afford to have my SA severely hampered, not my job. Doctor kept asking me how things were going but I avoided the issue for several months before I finally just told him what was going on. That is when he diagnosed me with depression. I am currently taking Wellbutrin for it, and for me, things are looking a LOT better. I'm enjoying things again, I'm getting sleep. Can't seem to cut grass anymore though as I break out in a rash. Didn't have this issue prior to taking Wellbutrin (though I do have an allergy of grass), but other than that things are golden compared to what they were before.
You can take some of the suggestions that people have given you here, but ONLY after you have talked to your doctor. You have to tell him what all of the symptoms you are going through, no matter how minor. If your doc is worth his weight in salt, he'll start to ask you questions pertaining to your life and job in detail. Answer honestly and give as much detail as you can. If you are prescribed anything, make sure to ask questions, especially about the side effects. For me I had to make sure that it wouldn't affect my driving. Also, if anything unusual starts happening when taking the medication, talk to your doctor IMMEDIATELY. Originally my doctor prescribed Paxil, but after a day hands started shaking. After a week, I was having the shakes real bad, so I went to see my doctor about it. He told me to stop taking Paxil immediately. Turns out that if I had kept taking it, it would have eventually affected my brain. I don't hold fault with him though. He didn't know I'd react in such a manner, nor did I. He started me on a light dose of it to play it safe, and it's a good thing he did. A heavier dose may have been very bad for me.
Talk do your doctor as soon as you can, don't ignore it.
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Remember this about "Doctors", they are not the same as they used to be..
Now, they put one little checkypoo on your chart, and you will have them crawlin
up your butt, for the rest of your life.. It's a trap, and it is intended that way!
Just a word to the wise, Beware who you allow into your private thoughts..
"Doctors" do not just work on solely your behalf, anymore..
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I don't subscribe to the road to happiness through pharmaceuticals especially as widespread and hair triggered prescription pads are these days. There is a time and a place but once you're on that road you're wearing that badge and it generally isn't coming off.
Go do something healthy.
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Hyperbole and a half comic about her experience with depression:
Adventures in Depression Part 1 (http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html)
Adventures in Depression Part 2 (http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html)
I've seen quite a few comments on other websites saying she nailed it in many ways.
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Being a manic depressant I know how you feel.
I had a phase where I was only sleeping maybe 2.5 hours a day (I things I HAD to be at [work etc.], which is why I woke up after sleeping). Video games were, and still are, an outlet for me. It helps forget about the world, because you can lose yourself in another one.
Like someone mentioned before you should try getting a bicycle. I hate working out (:P), and I feel like poo afterwards because I tend to work out until I feel like I'm going to drop, but in the end it really does have an effect. You won't notice it right off the bat (unless you make it to that "runner's high"), but it will help. Also, try drinking water. I know it sounds silly, but take my word on it. Both of those give you a longer term of better moods.
If you haven't seen someone you should. It is a difficult thing, and I'm overdo for a meetup myself. It can be awkward at first, but in the end it can really help. :)
Best of luck! If you want to talk just shoot me a PM.
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lol, Golfer thanks for the pics...the second one is a real mood enhancer. :devil :angel:
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I'm not a doctor but something I've observed....
check your diet. My brother is Mormon, same depression as you, at one point wanted to end it all. He then discovered coffee and it has changed his life. Keep a journal of how you feel and what you've eaten. Over time you'll notice some foods help, others hurt. This is not the final answer but your diet definitely impacts your moods.
my two cents. And when in doubt look up JG5, you can fly German Iron with us.
Boo
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Drugs work and are not necessarily permanent. I had a bad patch a few years ago. I didn't like the idea of taking drugs but at some point I realized that I wasn't getting over it and that I had nothing to lose. Exercise etc. was not doing it. The drugs I took we're SSRI's, (all this is googleable,) started on Prozac than Zoloft then Paxil. Took Paxil for a year and a half than tapered off. There were some side effects, (a slight increase in my natural susceptibility to motion sickness, some sleepiness, a certain thing related to time and sex which most men would see as positive,) but the primary effects were immensely helpful. I was able to get things done. I stopped ruminating, (look it up if you don't know what that is,) and generally I was able to be much more outgoing and confident.
One thing I would say is that the drug companies and health insurance companies would be happy to have you believe that drugs will cure everything. People are different, some people are best served by taking an antidepressant as you would a high blood pressure medicine, others only need it for a time. I personally think that the best thing to do to treat depression is have a combination of so called talk therapy and drugs as appropriate. The drugs can really snap the back of what Winston Churchill called his Black Dog, but something like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can help a person to be more resistant to the beast and also get more out of the relief the drugs can afford.
You might run across the occasional ignorant person that doesn't believe that depression is anything but a failure of will or a lack of exercise, they are entitled to their beliefs but you don't have to listen to them. You have the right if not the duty to be your own advocate. You don't have to stand for this depression crap.
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realize that some depression medication actually has increased risk of suicide and suicidal thoughts as a side effect. If you go on meds you really need to understand that as soon as you feel suicidal you MUST go in for treatment and adjustment of your meds. It helps to have someone else who can help you through it, to be able to recognize your mood swings before you do or act on them.
Also, sometimes anxiety seems about the same as depression. For example, if you don't feel like going out and you hang out in your house all day, but it's because the thought of fighting traffic that turns you off, then maybe it is anxiety and not really depression.
In any case, you need pro treatment, try behavioral treatments before medications, find a buddy to help you through especially when you start or change meds, and if you EVER feel suicidal or have suicidal thoughts you need to immediately go in for treatment or meds balancing because the meds can actually cause you to feel suicidal. Oh yea... come up with a foolproof method to regularly take your meds. Skipping or doubling a dose can lead straight to psychosis or suicidal thoughts without warning, so you need to be SURE you are on the meds exactly as prescribed.
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Find a local recommendation for a Clinical Psychologist and make the first appointment. Make further appointments with him/her, depending on how you felt talking about your issues. If you're not comfortable, find another psychologist.
If needed, they'll recommended a Psychiatrist to see about any medications, whether short term or long term.
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<---impatient twice 8 months of cutting and suicidal thoughts still have deep depression on Prozac now for it and a heath program
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At one point in our lives I had it all. Then it was gone. I spent many months reliving what we were only to come to the conclusion that if I don't want to be here this same time next year I had better stop feeling sorry for myself and do something about it. In other words what you are doing now is not going to change your life. What you can do is at least a step in the right direction. Pick something you like to do and start doing it. You may find way to make money at it. If its not money you will at a minimum find people that like to do what you do. What you put out there will respond to your endeavors. Dare to put yourself out there. But do not continue to dare yourself to stay in a bed.
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realize that some depression medication actually has increased risk of suicide and suicidal thoughts as a side effect.
Yeah. The wife and I see those commercials and go 'WTFO.' :huh
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thanks everybody :salute
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My nephew ended it all. Very hard on the family and me personally. He had spent a lifetime on these types of meds, back when they did not know as much about the side effects, etc. It is coming off of the drugs that seems to cause the biggest problems. This is why I advocate food, exercise and engagement. Someone pointed out find something you like and get after it. I agree.
Just know that many on this board have concerns, even if we are grumpy bterds. You aren't alone.
Boo
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I would contribute but don't know if wearing hi heels at the weekends is really therapy or a fashion statement :)
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See your Doctor, Zack.
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pharmaceuticals are NOT the answer...they will enslave you even more then you are already....which is of course what they want....."oh your kid is hyper...gee lets give him ridlin"...so he can be addicted from an early age......
find someone you trust to talk to.....smoke some bud.....bud wont cure it, but it has wonderful properties to make everything better....
from one who has dealt with massive head issues.....DO NOT TAKE THEIR PHARMACEUTICALS.......
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Sorry to hear it ink, but as above, that's not been my experience.
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Sorry to hear it ink, but as above, that's not been my experience.
I see all kinds of people complain and say they are depressed and suicidal.....wanna know how many have slept on the streets when they were 7-8-9 years old? had to live out of dumpsters.....how many have been held hostage and raped at 12 years old?????? picked up off the streets by strangers????? put into jail for NO crime.....but running from a very abusive "dad" and a viscous step mom...fighting everyday to live........being mentally....and physically abused daily.....
no these kids now a days complain because their ipod was taken from them....or because there mommy didn't hug them enough....or they actually might have to work to earn some money.
I have been in the system many many years....trust me pharmaceuticals kill your spirit...and destroy your will.....
I have had the gun to my head....the knife to my wrist...the pill bottle in hand.....yet I am still here....I still have issues..... but I refuse to give in...refuse to bow down to the system and let them kill my free thinking.......
this world caters to the weak of mind....for that is what they want...they want you to depend on them for everything....while giving nothing, but taking everything......it sickens me the way people are....sickens me.
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I'll confess I've suffered none of those misfortunes, but I have found myself unable to cope, or function, or even think straight. All of that at times when I was fit, otherwise healthy, etc. The meds my local doc put me on shut off the spontaneous, inevitably negative nagging inside my head, which means I could actually do useful things like provide for my family.
YMMV.
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I'll confess I've suffered none of those misfortunes, but I have found myself unable to cope, or function, or even think straight. All of that at times when I was fit, otherwise healthy, etc. The meds my local doc put me on shut off the spontaneous, inevitably negative nagging inside my head, which means I could actually do useful things like provide for my family.
YMMV.
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if you could see inside my head.......
to be perfectly honest the only reason I am alive and somewhat stable..... is my wife and kids.....LOVE there is nothing so powerful.....that and only that allows me to want to go on....without my wife and kids....I would have ended it a long time ago.
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I can relate to that, though it's the kid in my case.
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I know one of the last things you probably feel like doing is reading a book.
I can assure you that this book will at the least give you an understanding of the many reasons you feel this way. It's not an easy read because there are issues that will come up that you may not want to hear, admit, address or delve into. It's almost a guarantee issues (some ppl call damage) are why you have become this way, unless there is some clinical/medical reason for such that is not brain-chemical related, i.e. things like a hormone imbalance, etc. You will not regret the time spent on this book.
the book is: I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression by Terrence Real.
PM me if you feel like talking, my family and I have been through a lot.