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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: thedoom26 on June 01, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
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Their is a airway company in canada that Still flys the c-47 as a passenger or cargo plane,they have 2 of them in the fleet they use, they also fly the DC-3, Its called Buffalo Airways, If you watch T.V History channel they have a show or did, Called Ice Pilots, you may have seen them on T.V , i flew in the old plane, when i went to yellowknife from red deer,...I dont know many company`s that use the old planes, like this...
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A C-47 is a DC-3 ... and visa-versa. :D
But yeah, it's good to know. (Outside of North America you may be surprised how many are still in use.) :)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/DC-3_in_SoAfrica.jpg/640px-DC-3_in_SoAfrica.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/1_free_nz_photo_dc-3.jpg/640px-1_free_nz_photo_dc-3.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/TransNorthern_DC-3_landing_at_ANC.jpg/640px-TransNorthern_DC-3_landing_at_ANC.jpg)
Anchorage Alaska ... this one is in North America
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Maritime_Patrol_and_Rescue_Conroy_Tri-Turbo_Three_Fitzgerald.jpg/640px-Maritime_Patrol_and_Rescue_Conroy_Tri-Turbo_Three_Fitzgerald.jpg)
An interesting modification: "Conroy Tri-Turbo-Three at Farnborough Airshow in 1978."
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I believe there are some still in use in Africa as well.
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I believe there are some still in use in Africa as well.
South African Air Force still uses them, but they are the turboprop conversions.
There are only about 300-400 DC-3's that ever existed. The rest, we're all built for the military as C-47/53's.
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South African Air Force still uses them, but they are the turboprop conversions.
There are only about 300-400 DC-3's that ever existed. The rest, we're all built for the military as C-47/53's.
Again, the C-47 was the military classification of the DC-3. Same plane. 10,000 C-47s (the
military classification of the DC-3) were built. :D
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Production
Total production of all derivatives was 16,079.[7] More than 400 remained in commercial service in 1998. Production was as follows:
607 civil variants of the DC-3.
10,048 military C-47 derivatives were built at Santa Monica, California, Long Beach, California, and Oklahoma City.
4,937 were built under license in Russia as the Lisunov Li-2 (NATO reporting name: Cab).
487 Mitsubishi Kinsei-engined aircraft were built by Showa and Nakajima in Japan, as the L2D2–L2D5 Type 0 transport (Allied codename Tabby).
Production of civil DC-3s ceased in 1942; military versions were produced until the end of the war in 1945. In 1949, a larger, more powerful Super DC-3 was launched to positive reviews. However, the civilian market was flooded with second-hand C-47s, many of which were converted to passenger and cargo versions. As a result only three Super DC-3s were built and delivered for commercial use the following year. The prototype Super DC-3 served the US Navy with the designation YC-129 alongside 100 R4Ds that had been upgraded to the Super DC-3 specification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-3
^ a b Gradidge 2006, p. 20.
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Down here there's a company that flies tour groups up to wine country and back over the course of a day, in a restored DC-3. Stewardess wears 40s getup, pretty cool.
It all appeared to be original, including the pilot, who I think was about to begin his second century in the air.
Stew didn't have much to do on the return flight...
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Down here there's a company that flies tour groups up to wine country and back over the course of a day, in a restored DC-3. Stewardess wears 40s getup, pretty cool.
It all appeared to be original, including the pilot, who I think was about to begin his second century in the air.
Stew didn't have much to do on the return flight...
This interests me. Napa Valley back and forth from where?
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Hunter Valley, NSW, Australia.
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Hunter Valley, NSW, Australia.
LOL ....
My mistake. Wrong wine country. :lol
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Again, the C-47 was the military classification of the DC-3. Same plane. 10,000 C-47s (the
military classification of the DC-3) were built. :D
Sorry, but I will be arguing semantics on this one...
C-47/53/117 was not the classification for the DC-3. The DC-3 used by the USAAF were all C-48's, C-49's, C-50's, C-51's or C-52's, depending on the airline who they were taken from and the engines installed.
While yes, the basis for the C-47/53/117 started from the original DC-3 design, from a practical and LEGAL standpoint, they are not the same plane.
The C-47 was built as a cargo plane with the rear cargo doors and a metal floor to handle the weight of the loaded cargo. The C-53/117 was a C-47 but only had the paratrooper door as they were made to haul people. All DC-3's and C-53/117's came with wooden floors. Some DC-3's had the passenger doors on the right side of the plane vs the standard left.
The military birds had a lot of differences from the DC-3. The mechanic who is working on our C-47, who worked on DC-3's in the airlines, has even been saying so. I also recently found out from the guy who is putting together the maintenance program for the FAA for our C-47 that not all C-47's could conform to civil DC-3 specs due to the differences in the planes for those certain ranges in build numbers.
C-47 IS the model designation for the plane. For all of the certificates and data plates for these planes, the model is listed as a C-47, NOT a DC-3.
This is true for many Civilian and Military aircraft of the same heritage.
For example, we also have a Piper L-21B Seneca. Civilians would call it a Piper PA-18-135 Supercub, but that is incorrect. The L-21B, which was a military version of the Super Cub, has major differences in the structure of the plane. To name one example, on the civilian plane, the wing has 16 ribs; on the L-21B, it only has 13 ribs.
Another would be the Boeing 707 and the C/KC-135. Both started out from the Boeing Dash 80 design. However, the 707's fuselage is a whole 6 inches wider than the C/KC-135.
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LOL ....
My mistake. Wrong wine country. :lol
:D
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Used to see these Ethiopian Airlines DC3's quite often back in 1986 during the Famine Relief.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x132/xbrit58/Ethiopian_Airlines_Douglas_DC-3_Groves_zps7f0afba8.jpg) (http://s187.photobucket.com/user/xbrit58/media/Ethiopian_Airlines_Douglas_DC-3_Groves_zps7f0afba8.jpg.html)
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Sorry, but I will be arguing semantics on this one...
*ShruG* Take it up with ... Gradidge 2006, p. 20. :)
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*ShruG* Take it up with ... Gradidge 2006, p. 20. :)
:lol will do! :lol