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Title: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Eric19 on June 04, 2013, 09:13:53 PM
okay first wish update the SBD plz that would be much appericated HTC
and second wish add the SB2C Helldiver plz here specs:

General characteristics
 Crew: Two, pilot and radio operator/gunner
 Length: 36 ft 8 in (11.18 m)
 Wingspan: 49 ft 9 in (15.17 m)
 Height: 13 ft 2 in (4.01 m)
 Wing area: 422 ft² (39.2 m²)
 Empty weight: 10,547 lb (4,794 kg)
 Max. takeoff weight: 16,616 lb (7,553 kg)
 Powerplant: 1 × Wright R-2600-20 Twin Cyclone radial engine, 1,900 hp (1,417 kW)
 
Performance
 Maximum speed: 295 mph (257 knots, 475 km/h) at 16,700 ft (5,090 m)
 Cruise speed: 158 mph (137 knots, 254 km/h)
 Range: 1,165 mi (1,013 nmi, 1,876 km) with 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombload
 Service ceiling: 29,100 ft (8,870 m)
 Rate of climb: 1,800 ft/min (9.1 m/s)
 
Armament

 Guns: **2 × 20 mm (.79 in) cannon in the wings 2 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning machine guns in the rear cockpit
 
Bombs: in internal bay: 2,000 lb (900 kg) of bombs or 1 × Mark 13-2 torpedo[47]
 on underwing hardpoints: 500 lb (225 kg) of bombs each
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Zacherof on June 04, 2013, 09:28:55 PM
Yes! :banana: +999999999999!
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Dragon Tamer on June 04, 2013, 10:42:44 PM
YES

I was just going to make a request for the Hell diver.

Might as well update the SBD while we are at it.

+1  :aok :rock  :cheers:
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: sparky1 on June 06, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
+1
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: aztec on June 07, 2013, 05:18:57 PM
+1  I've seen the addition of the Helldiver get raked over the coals here many times over the years...would still love to have one!

SBD Update, without a doubt.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Karnak on June 07, 2013, 05:53:10 PM
Helldiver would be fine, but we need some Japanese carrier based attack aircraft more modern than the 1937 D3A1 and 1938 B5N2 that we have now to go with it.  SB2C Helldiver, TBD Devastator (American equivalent of the B5N2), B6N2 (Japanese equivalent of the TBM-3) and D4Y would be a nice set.  I wouldn't complain if the B6N's successor, the low production (114 built), B7A 'Grace' were added as well.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: bustr on June 07, 2013, 06:08:09 PM
The addition of the SeaHurri put to rest the fear of 4-Hisso blazing hoards off CV. I suppose the low perk on the CHog did too.

I would like to see a Helldiver, Firefly and Japanese carrier aircraft. I suspect the former two mentioned would get more play time.

The -4 version would have a better chance of survival in the MA than the TBM or SBD with such a nice HO factor.

SB2C-4

Armament

Guns: **2 × 20 mm (.79 in) cannon in the wings 2 × 0.30 in (7.62 mm) M1919 Browning machine guns in the rear cockpit

Bombs: in internal bay: 2,000 lb (900 kg) of bombs or 1 × Mark 13-2 torpedo[47]
 on underwing hardpoints: 500 lb (225 kg) of bombs each
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 07, 2013, 08:27:58 PM
I think the Firefly would get a lot of use, it was a surprisingly maneuverable airplane for its size.

ack-ack
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Karnak on June 07, 2013, 08:30:46 PM
If we're talking MA stuff:

B7A2 'Grace'

Top speed: 352mph
Armament:
    Guns:
        Two 20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons in wings
        One 7.92mm Type 1 or 13mm Type 2 machine gun in the rear cockpit
    Bombs:
        800kg of general ordnance or
        One 800 kg torpedo

Supposedly it could dogfight effectively with the A6M5.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Shifty on June 08, 2013, 08:08:49 AM
If we're talking MA stuff:

B7A2 'Grace'

Top speed: 352mph
Armament:
    Guns:
        Two 20mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons in wings
        One 7.92mm Type 1 or 13mm Type 2 machine gun in the rear cockpit
    Bombs:
        800kg of general ordnance or
        One 800 kg torpedo

Supposedly it could dogfight effectively with the A6M5.


She was a big airplane.

(http://www.hyperscale.com/images/SW72069preview_1.jpg)
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Karnak on June 08, 2013, 08:46:26 AM
She was a big airplane.

(http://www.hyperscale.com/images/SW72069preview_1.jpg)
It was.  It looks practically American if not for the Japanese markings.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Saxman on June 08, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
Did the B7A even see combat? Quick search indicates the only carriers big enough to operate them were Taiho and Shinano, and both were sunk before they could even receive them. They were pretty much relegated to operating out of Yokosuka afterwards.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Karnak on June 08, 2013, 09:52:59 AM
Yes, but not from carriers.  It had the gear for carrier operations, but no carriers to launch from, so it was flown from airfields.

It is definitely not a significant participant in WWII, but it did fight and would be used in the MA.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Shifty on June 08, 2013, 10:25:35 AM
Yes with 752nd and Yokosuka Kokutais from land bases. I know I've seen USN gun camera footage of one being shot down by either a Hellcat or Corsair.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Karnak on June 08, 2013, 10:28:16 AM
Not sure if HTC would enable it on CVs or not given that it didn't fly from them due to their loss but was equipped to fly from them.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Eric19 on June 08, 2013, 11:14:18 AM
looks sorta like a Corsair lol with the gull wings and stuff
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Zacherof on June 08, 2013, 01:03:32 PM
+1 to all :banana:
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Saxman on June 08, 2013, 01:51:13 PM
Ok, go for it. Though I think the B6N, D4Y, SB2C and TBD should come first. All four are far more significant, particularly for scenarios. Masses of TBMs are a bit unfair in pre-Guadalcanal setups, and the B6N and D4Y will give the Japanese something far more competitive in the mid to late war setting.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Karnak on June 08, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Ok, go for it. Though I think the B6N, D4Y, SB2C and TBD should come first. All four are far more significant, particularly for scenarios. Masses of TBMs are a bit unfair in pre-Guadalcanal setups, and the B6N and D4Y will give the Japanese something far more competitive in the mid to late war setting.
Agreed.  The B7A is a historical footnote and pure MA fodder.
Title: Re: update the SBD plz and add something as well..................
Post by: Eric19 on June 08, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
I would be fine with just updating the cockpit on the SBD but I said what the hell maybe I'll just throw in the SB2C Helldiver with it