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Title: Yak9T
Post by: StokesAk on June 06, 2013, 05:51:18 PM
What are your guy's opinion on this aircraft? I have been flying it exclusively for the past week and I love it.

The 37mm is perfect for killing bombers. It's tricky to aim up fighters but it gets the job done. The HE rounds are capable of killing a tank or two as well.

It has decent speed and acceleration, a small profile, and though armor.

The torque is horrible when you get it slow and it does not have high speed flaps for quick reversals so you really have to commit to a fight if you want a kill.

Now all we need is a fancy new 3D model and I will never get out of it!  :airplane:
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 06, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
I really don't have a high opinion of it, as least from fighting them I don't.  I don't find them to be difficult to fight against at all, especially in the vertical or at low/stall speeds.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Debrody on June 06, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
Slower than the spits (they run), actually turns and climbs quite poorly, has very bad stalling characteristics.
To say something nice about it? Tough, soaks up a load of damage, dives very well, has an excellent visibility, and that legendary sniper weapon...
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Blooz on June 06, 2013, 07:53:10 PM
Used to use it to hunt PT boats and LVT's. It makes for a small target and is relatively quick.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: JimmyD3 on June 06, 2013, 09:13:11 PM
Good de-acker
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 06, 2013, 09:33:40 PM
Think of it as more of a bruiser and not a knife fighter.  It can hit hard vs specific targets, but otherwise it is limited. 

The Yak9U on the other hand is one of the best planes in the game other than it has questionable firepower.  There is a reason such a stud of a plane does not get more usage.  It may look and handle like a thoroughbred race horse, but the sad thing it is lacks the gusto to much else.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Rich46yo on June 07, 2013, 11:13:47 AM
If I had to pick one plane to defend against LVTs, M3s, PTs, it would be the 9T. Its really good at preventing troops from getting into the map room and its just agile enough to survive in long enough to do it. It will take out Panzers-4s handily and Ive even taken out the odd Sherman and even a T34 a few times. But its not a great tank killer as it doesnt have AP shells.

As a niche aircraft it fills its place very nicely. But I do think its sister 9U is the best high eny fighter in the game.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: RedBull1 on June 07, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
Google and Kingpin make the 9T look OP :aok
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: MK-84 on June 08, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
If I had to pick one plane to defend against LVTs, M3s, PTs, it would be the 9T. Its really good at preventing troops from getting into the map room and its just agile enough to survive in long enough to do it. It will take out Panzers-4s handily and Ive even taken out the odd Sherman and even a T34 a few times. But its not a great tank killer as it doesnt have AP shells.

As a niche aircraft it fills its place very nicely. But I do think its sister 9U is the best high eny fighter in the game.

I'd rather a B25H.  against those targets, especially PT boats it is absolutely king.  You can plink your targets from outside their range of fire with the 75mm.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Rich46yo on June 09, 2013, 03:52:16 AM
I'd rather a B25H.  against those targets, especially PT boats it is absolutely king.  You can plink your targets from outside their range of fire with the 75mm.

ya the 25H is a far better plane then its numbers give it credit for. AND its a lot of fun, most of all as a mission plane. I just like the Yak better cause its nimbler and more survivable in. But no big cannon is as fun as the big 75mm.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: RedBull1 on June 09, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
ya the 25H is a far better plane then its numbers give it credit for. AND its a lot of fun, most of all as a mission plane. I just like the Yak better cause its nimbler and more survivable in. But no big cannon is as fun as the big 75mm.
Ever played B25 tag? :D
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Eric19 on June 09, 2013, 03:45:02 PM
Ever played B25 tag? :D
yes its awesome lol once kill a low flying 17 from 4k out with that big ol 75  :D
I know somebody I think it was chance or whatever used to be in TopGun he could hit a tank 2 times with that yak9t's 37 and kill it how I have no idea I can't even kill a tank in one pass with my IL2 lol
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: RedBull1 on June 09, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
yes its awesome lol once kill a low flying 17 from 4k out with that big ol 75  :D
I know somebody I think it was chance or whatever used to be in TopGun he could hit a tank 2 times with that yak9t's 37 and kill it how I have no idea I can't even kill a tank in one pass with my IL2 lol
Sounds like google, refer to my above post: :D

Google and Kingpin make the 9T look OP :aok
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Gixer on June 10, 2013, 04:25:29 AM
Considering I flew the Yak T as a sole ride for quite a few years my opinion is:

For the Yak T and the U the worst thing about them is that they are still AH1 models which is eventually why I finally gave up flying the Yak T. After many years I couldn't bare to look at it's 90's cockpit graphics any longer, added frustration they updated the IL2 before Yaks and more hangar queens. Apart from that good and bad points as follows:

Good Points:
- 37mm is both extremely rewarding and frustrating at the same time, but with a lot of practice you can pull of some amazing sniper shots at high deflections on a fairly consistent basis under 600 once you get the timing down. While some will say you can pull off 1k shots it generally wastes the limited ammo even against buffs.  The gun is really the only reason to fly the T over the U  37mm is more of a challenge/rewarding = lot more fun.

- Visibility, never to be under estimated. Though view over nose is poor.
- Handling above 180mph sweet spot is around mid 200mph
- Dive and overall handling characteristics
- Small target means that it feels better armoured then it actually is, easy to force overshoots.
- Friendly Stall when roping dopes. Not so friendly when on the deck at slow speed.

Bad Points:
- 37mm miss the first couple of shots and you probably won't get a third unless the con is    highly inept.

 - Climb rate, fairly abysmal feels as if a goon can out climb you at times and I never had the patience to climb higher than 10k most of the time.
- Acceleration poor, E retention also poor.
- Turns, again you have to keep it above around 180mph, lower and turn rate/handling is poor if you find that your starting to get flaps out you'll probably soon be back in the tower.
- Fuel range, even on cruise you won't be around long after you've used 1/4 for the last 10 mins just to reach 10k
- Pilot Wounds, not sure exactly but seriously feels as if it's a bug since beta and if entire cockpit is made of glass as use to get more PW's in Yaks then any other ride.
- MA due to poor performance tend to always be on the defensive especially against the top tier rides. Yak T you generally don't have any one particular advantage over other rides, unlike the U which is faster then what it can't outturn and vice versa. F4Us and Spits especially use to give me the most trouble.

Best tip I can give with the Yak T is practice practice practice high deflection shots with the 37mm to get the timing down use the offline drones. As like I said if you miss with the first couple of shots it's highly unlikely you will get a third.

Overall though I stuck with the Yak T for many years because it was (for me) the most rewarding and challenging rides in the game to try and do well in on a consistent basis. Of course you'll get a fraction of the kills and die more in a Yak T compared to the Yak U and especially compared to flying any of the top tier uber rides. But 1 kill in a Yak T is more fun than 10 in anything else.



<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Gixer on June 10, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Oh forgot to add, another Good Point for the Yak T.. Low numbers of assists, anything you hit is yours.   :D

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<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Shifty on June 11, 2013, 04:18:54 PM
I have been flying it exclusively for the past week and I love it.

Yes you have and I made the mistake of thinking you'd miss. (http://david.tenifer.com/forum/phpBB2/images/smiles/sick0010.gif)
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Fruda on June 12, 2013, 06:09:15 PM
It's a pig, but it's really fun to use. A lot of people don't think too much of it; however, even though it is a pig, it's a very capable one in the right hands.

That 37mm cannon in the nose can get you a couple dozen kills in one sortie if it's used properly.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Gixer on June 13, 2013, 01:50:30 AM
That 37mm cannon in the nose can get you a couple dozen kills in one sortie if it's used properly.

Absolute Rubbish, only holds 32 rnds and a short fuel range. You'd have to be shooting a willing squadmate,shade, or vulching goons to score 24 kills in one sortie..

Over the years of flying the Yak T in the LW MA no one in AH has more kills vs fighters or flying hours in Yak T than me.. There is no way you can bag 24 kills in one sortie. Think the best I ever achieved was 11 before fuel forced rtb and that probably included a buff or two.

It is possible to score 5 kills vs fighters for 5 rnds but that takes a lot of skill and luck which is a level far beyond just using the tater properly.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Fruda on June 14, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
Absolute Rubbish, only holds 32 rnds and a short fuel range. You'd have to be shooting a willing squadmate,shade, or vulching goons to score 24 kills in one sortie..

Over the years of flying the Yak T in the LW MA no one in AH has more kills vs fighters or flying hours in Yak T than me.. There is no way you can bag 24 kills in one sortie. Think the best I ever achieved was 11 before fuel forced rtb and that probably included a buff or two.

It is possible to score 5 kills vs fighters for 5 rnds but that takes a lot of skill and luck which is a level far beyond just using the tater properly.


<S>...-Gixer


You're probably right. It's easy to overestimate the limits of that aircraft because the gun is so lethal. But the fact remains that you can shoot down basically any aircraft with a single shot.
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Gixer on June 21, 2013, 04:25:38 AM
You're probably right. It's easy to overestimate the limits of that aircraft because the gun is so lethal. But the fact remains that you can shoot down basically any aircraft with a single shot.

Yes, but when aircraft is moving landing that single hit is a big challange. At best you might average one hit in five with exceptional shooting and at very close range.

Problem for Yak T against other planes is that after a merge you might have one or two chances to land that single shot, unless the other guy makes a lot of errors it's unlikely you will get a chance for a third shot or more especially aginst the uber rides in the LW arena.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: bustr on June 21, 2013, 04:38:47 PM
Wonder if the great grandchildren of any Lagg3 66 or Yak9T pilots ever played this game and described to the old gents how we furball in them. Especially since they required fighter cover to perform their real missions.

Primarily ground attack and low level bomber interception if they could catch up to them or, arrange things to be waiting for them.

Though logic, physics, and luck dictate, if you are close enough, and tap the trigger at the correct point in the equation. And you don't have six sqweekers in spit16 hovering around looking for easy kills. Or one vet in a 109 with a hot tater to share. 
Title: Re: Yak9T
Post by: Owlblink on June 29, 2013, 10:42:49 PM
About a year ago when I was flying 109s I ran into a few very good yak pilots, but I thin they were usually in the U models.

Or one vet in a 109 with a hot tater to share. 

That's a great quote right there Bustr :rofl