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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rich46yo on June 15, 2013, 02:02:00 PM
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Whats a good racing game? What kinda hardware do you need? Thanks
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Forza motorsport 4 is the best I have ever played for an all round package. You will need a steering wheels and pedals to get the most out of it. This is only on Xbox though I think, so no good if you want to play a PC game.
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Would rudders work as pedals? Thanks.
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Rich,
Check out Pcars,it's available on xbox/Ps3 or PC and looks great.
you may be able to map some rudder pedals to work but most wheels come with a set unless you get a real cheap wheel. I got a wheel and pedals for the PS3 and it works on the PC, IIRC it was around 50 bucks.
:salute
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I'm partial to iRacing if you want the most realistic experience.
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As difficulty goes im a fan for the formula one games. For full sim you have to watch ur tires. Feul and car any damage affects speed and down force. Also you can adjust ur own car as well as plan ur own pit stratagy. The gave i currently have is F1 2012
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I'm partial to iRacing if you want the most realistic experience.
what this guy said. nascar, f1, sprint, and all kinds of other stuff.. computer based too
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Many newer racing games have less realism than GP racing 2.
It's bizarre seeing the steps back ward in simulation genre games.
that said, GTL and GPL are fine games.
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I've always been partial to Live For Speed, they haven't updated it in a while, but it's a lot of fun to play.
http://www.lfs.net/
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I'm a big fan of racing games, and as far as the most fun, I'd say the Need For Speed Underground series takes it. Forza is the most realistic I've played, and the online community makes it fun
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The best simulators are for the pc. Why settle for less?
gtr2 (check power & glory mod), rfactor, live for speed, netkar, etc... old timers (no big hw requirements) but good sims.
Also you have the new batch of "freemium" sims: raceroom, simraceway... I don't know if they are as realistic as the previous generation.
Assetto corsa, rfactor2: promise new level of realism. No stable release yet.
Free as in free beer (although beta). Reportedly realistic: racer.nl
Let's not forget a sim from another dimension in racing: richard burns rally. Still the best rally sim. Frustratingly realistic. Also runs fast in old PCs.
Get a decent FFB wheel!
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Cool. Isnt there a new game out now? A cross country game?
Saitek makes wheels, pedals, a stick. Are those the components I need? I dont mind spending a little dough but I'd like to do it right.
I used to like racing as a kid so Im thinking this is maybe the new genre to get into.
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General consensus is that top of the line wheel is G-27 by Logitech. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g27-racing-wheel
iRacing is one of the best racing sims, but it requires online connection, monthly payment and heavy time investment to be good. And it's not just for fun...it's competitive and used as a tool by real drivers.
There are no modern offroad games.
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I miss the old nascar 4 racing on line. Great simulation.
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Im going to do it. I just watched vid for 5 to 1 game and its to cool for school. Im going to buy the logictek and go all out.
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For smart phones, itouch's and tarts, check out Nitro Nation. It's free :old:
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Dirt 3 is probably the best off road racing game, arcade ish but definitely fun.
Grid and Grid 2 are my two favorite racing games, both are great with Grid 2 just coming out last month. Only gripe with Grid 2 is no cockpit view but there's already a mod to fix that. Arcade style, made by the same developers as Dirt 3. Plenty of fun.
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Need For Speed Underground 1 and 2 are by far the best racing games ever made. Forza 4 is fun as well, but if you want something other than paved roads and super cars try the Dirt series. Dirt 2 and 3 are the best ones followed up by Dirt Showdown. If you don't want any of those go on your PC and download Need For Speed World. Its free and works like WoT if you've ever played that.
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The best simulators are for the pc. Why settle for less?
gtr2 (check power & glory mod), rfactor, live for speed, netkar, etc... old timers (no big hw requirements) but good sims.
Also you have the new batch of "freemium" sims: raceroom, simraceway... I don't know if they are as realistic as the previous generation.
Assetto corsa, rfactor2: promise new level of realism. No stable release yet.
Free as in free beer (although beta). Reportedly realistic: racer.nl
Let's not forget a sim from another dimension in racing: richard burns rally. Still the best rally sim. Frustratingly realistic. Also runs fast in old PCs.
Get a decent FFB wheel!
excellent post, and I liked and agree with what you say about Richard Burns Rally, super frustrating, but super satisfying when you get a corner right, and still hasn't been topped as the best / most realistic rally game ever.
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Forza (still just run 3) does it for my racing fix:
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/games/KaidoCruisin.jpg) (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/1grayeagle/media/games/KaidoCruisin.jpg.html)
(note the direction of skidmarks ..ya baby, we were driftin big time uphill around that corner :)
..and catchin a bit of air ..ohh yaa. Love that GT-40 ..high sidewall tires an all.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/1grayeagle/games/LeapofFaith.jpg) (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/1grayeagle/media/games/LeapofFaith.jpg.html)
THen there's car customization .. spent hours makin up the 'Dragon' .. a boss 429 Mustang that runs the lightweight new-tech OHC motor ..makes the car amazing without that big boat anchor 429 up front. Rips thru the 'ring under 8 seconds ..old school look, retro rod they call 'em these days :)
Don't get me started on my all-wheel drive blown 540 Hemi powered Dodge Daytona :)
That is scary big Mopar fun, runs away from a Bugatti Veyron on the Mulsanne straight and handles well enough to keep the lead gained by a healthy margin thru the twisties :)
-Frank aka GE
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For a fan of historic race cars who's looking for a racing sim, Power & Glory V3 is a must have.
A video: http://youtu.be/C26SdLnV4ao (http://youtu.be/C26SdLnV4ao)
More videos: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1507646&postcount=1 (http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1507646&postcount=1)
Screenshots: https://picasaweb.google.com/109338303387288512096/PGV3ScreensWIP1?authkey=Gv1sRgCMy975Ls9efnMg&noredirect=1#slideshow/5782371642288645042 (https://picasaweb.google.com/109338303387288512096/PGV3ScreensWIP1?authkey=Gv1sRgCMy975Ls9efnMg&noredirect=1#slideshow/5782371642288645042)
Forum for info: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105 (http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=105)
It's simply amazing. The sights, the sounds, the physics! What is missing is the smells and being scared sh*tless. :D
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Well I did it. I ordered the L-Tech so I'll be racing soon. Thanks for all the recommendations on games. W-Maker Im a little confused on the download for that game. Im not sure what files need to be downloaded, or, where the new version is. Thank you.
I want to end up with 3 or 4 games. This is an entire new genre for me.
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I played IRacing for a few months. Liked the game and competition just fine but hated the cheezy little steering wheel and shifter controls. Made me feel like a 12 year old every time I played.
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I race iRacing....all sorts of racing to be done...road courses and ovals..F1 to nascar to idy car to GT cars....Graphics are great....a bit expensive but its highly regarded as a great practice tool for race drivers in real life....
If a bump is on the track in real life...its on iracing....
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I do my racing on console, use to play Gran Turismo but after GT5 I'm done with them and have been enjoying Forza 4 since January. I do a lot of the Multi-class Le Mans style racing.
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OK I think I understand. First I have to buy GTR 2 FIA GT, which is on Steam for $12, and then I can download the Mods for P&V. I figured I'd try something new, since I spent all the money on the game system, and since Im so bored with flight games.
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OK I think I understand. First I have to buy GTR 2 FIA GT, which is on Steam for $12, and then I can download the Mods for P&V. I figured I'd try something new, since I spent all the money on the game system, and since Im so bored with flight games.
Yep. Late on my reply but that's how it goes. That Forum I gave a link on has basically all the info needed to enjoy P&G. Its one of the best free community efforts in gaming that I've ever seen.
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RACE 07 and it's addons are still the best tin top simulation.
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Grid 2 looks pretty awesome too.
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some of my favorites to roll around in Forza 4
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8589247151_12270a7e2b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94381131@N04/8589247151/)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8632560756_dc99f54390.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94381131@N04/8632560756/)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8108/8631451943_4d88c82b45.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94381131@N04/8631451943/)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8517/8599793207_14074dd5fb.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94381131@N04/8599793207/)
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I tried a couple of PC racing games once. F1 2010 and the other one I don't recall the name.
While the graphics were great, and the physics were decent... what killed all enjoyment of them for me was the horrible AI computer opponents. Funny enough the AI cars never seemed to run into each other, but always drove into me. They always seem to follow a set racing line whether the player car is there or not.
In F1 2010 I remember I tried running a full length race simulation at Spa once. (including qualy) I qualified and started mid pack but after about 10 laps I settled into a groove and began to gain on those in front. After several laps of closing down the next car up the road I got close enough to get a tow down the long straight, pulled alongside on the inside line into Les Combes, had my front wheels well in front of his, hit my braking perfectly... and he turns in and crashes me. :mad: I limp back to the pits for repairs and a new set of tires and get back out. Now of course I'm the back of the field but much faster than those immediately in front of me, I quickly catch one and try to pass on the inside at the chicane... and he blindly turns into my rear end and crashes me again. :mad:
As an F1 fan, I tried to get into that game for several weeks, but every time I'd start to get into it, some silly AI car would stupidly crash into me... it's like every AI car was Romain Grosjean 2012. It was the same story with the other racing game I tried, I think it was Need for Speed, but I can't recall for sure.
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AZi is always a problem in race games. Either to passive or aggressive and following a set path. I'm interested to see how Forza 5 is not going to use AI as in the past but AI based on player data collected on the cloud. Could be really bad or good lol, depends on how people race. I
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Well my L-Tech is here but I have to wait to use it. My basement is tore up due to a flood and this week end I have to take apart my puter and everything for wall board and carpet. I guess it will be a week or two until i can start my new passion. This looks like a really cool thing to get into to. The G27 looks very awsome.
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I think the best feature I've seen in a racing game is from Codemasters (Grid, Dirt series). If you make a mistake, you can press a button and "rewind" back a set amount of time. It's super helpful AND if you feel like messing around, you use this to crash as many cars as possible in that one situation, then re do it all over. :devil
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Widow is the Mod also an online/multiplayer game? I finally got it to install, on the STEAM version, even tho I got error messages but cant find any online servers.
Also Im tempted to buy Grid-2 but it doesnt have drivers view. WTF is that about?
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Also Im tempted to buy Grid-2 but it doesnt have drivers view. WTF is that about?
According to the devs, it's so that they can put more resources on the car and environment, and they mentioned that according to polls, not a lot of people used cockpit view (which is BS). However, there's already a mod for cockpit view, and everything else in the game is fun. The first Grid is probably my favorite racing game, graphics are still pretty good for today's standards. Still worth a buy.
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I do not beleive player-based AI will be an improvement.
The couple years in GPL and Nascar racing online proved conclusively that the guy behind will invariably crash the guy in front
.. either rushing the inside apex with no hope of braking in time to avoid the crash
..or just blindly driving right into the back of the car in front of him on any part of a race track.
Too many replays proved it.
Even the self-styled 'real race car drivers' that showed up now an then.
Some of them were the worst.
-Frank aka GE
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A little update. Im downloading IRacing as we speak. For $15 for 3 months it was to good a deal to pass up. I have a lot of learning to do and its not that good a time for it. After a flood my game time is kinda limited. But Im looking forward to this new genre and am excited by it. I was in some hair raising chases earlier in life. It will be fun to recreate it in a game. I really like competing against other people in my game time.
The graphics in Grid-2 look awesome. Racing around in all those different cities is to cool for school. After I get situated in Iracing and GTR I'll look into buying it. I had no idea this genre was so huge. Its seems much larger then flight.
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Widow is the Mod also an online/multiplayer game? I finally got it to install, on the STEAM version, even tho I got error messages but cant find any online servers.
It is multiplayer sim, yes. I have an old CD-based version so can't comment on the steam version except that people have used it succesfully.
Advice on installing P&G with Steam version of the GTR2:
http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=315841 (http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=315841)
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A little update. Im downloading IRacing as we speak. For $15 for 3 months it was to good a deal to pass up. I have a lot of learning to do and its not that good a time for it. After a flood my game time is kinda limited. But Im looking forward to this new genre and am excited by it. I was in some hair raising chases earlier in life. It will be fun to recreate it in a game. I really like competing against other people in my game time.
i hope you have a lot of patience and tylenol...going through the rookie and d stage is tough. full of grievers who don't care. start out by just focusing on running a safe race (no incidents), run a lot of practice laps to get used to the track and car, watch ahead and immediately behind you (that's where most of the problems occur). learn to be smooth with your acceration and braking. don't get drawn into the drama queen's reactions for their own stupidity on the tracks.
i'm taking a break from it. i'll get back into it around august or september.
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After Motor City Online (MCO) was killed off by EA, a couple of friends and I did the MCOMOD for it, used the F1-99 series as the base. That was a blast to play. I had the pleasure of doing the physics model for the mod.
You can go into the F1 series, modify the AI to make them far more aggressive and independent. I ended up making a single AI program for each car, so it wasn't simply an across the board AI difficulty, each car used the same physics model as the cars we drove. It was wild. Ran it for quite a while before it became non stop work and no time to play.
I still enjoy the F1 series simply because I can tweak the AIs. I like to ramp them up so I rarely win, as opposed to dumbing them down so I never lose :)
Flat out is another one I really enjoyed modding.
Did iRacing for about a year, it was ok, but never really got me hooked. To each his own, really nice game but it never brought me in.
Formosa, now that one looks inviting, going to check that out.
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F1 2012 Is on Steam Midweek Sale 66% off right now only $13 :banana:
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I got up and driving in Iracing yesterday. It was pretty immersive and fun. Tho I have a lot of practice to do before actually competing.
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I got up and driving in Iracing yesterday. It was pretty immersive and fun. Tho I have a lot of practice to do before actually competing.
Yeah, it's demanding sim that requires a lot of time to get well. Learning track and your car will take a long time...not a quick get few laps and get out.
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F1 2012 Is on Steam Midweek Sale 66% off right now only $13 :banana:
F1 2011 is the better of the Codemaster's series. They got lazy and took out a lot of depth in 2012
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F1 2011 is the better of the Codemaster's series. They got lazy and took out a lot of depth in 2012
Not with following Mods it isn't.
http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/resources/true-to-life-ai.50/
http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/resources/f1-2013-season-mod.200/
<S>...-Gixer
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The audio is so immersive in these games Im thinking of upgrading my sound card. Whats a really good sound card? And while Im at it I should probably upgrade my power. I have an awful lot on USB now. Including a USB-3 external. I have a Digital Storm Assassin with an i7, 12 gigs Ram, a GTX580, 750 wt power, onboard sound which is OK but I could do better.
So Im thinking new sound, 1200 wt power, and eventually a Vidcard upgrade after.
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Unlike the 90s I don't think external sound cards are any better than on board mobo chip sound processors. Better off to invest in some good quality headphones. SteelSeries Sibera v2 are amazing and good value.
<S>...-Gixer
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The audio is so immersive in these games Im thinking of upgrading my sound card. Whats a really good sound card? And while Im at it I should probably upgrade my power. I have an awful lot on USB now. Including a USB-3 external. I have a Digital Storm Assassin with an i7, 12 gigs Ram, a GTX580, 750 wt power, onboard sound which is OK but I could do better.
So Im thinking new sound, 1200 wt power, and eventually a Vidcard upgrade after.
I suggest speaker upgrade if you do not have 5.1 setup. I have Logitech Z680....best PC speakers ever made.
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I suggest speaker upgrade if you do not have 5.1 setup. I have Logitech Z680....best PC speakers ever made.
Thanks I have some MAudio's, from my fire wire mixer when I was doing video, which sound pretty good. Mybe I'll just upp power and video card. Should I go SLI with another 580 or get a newer single card?
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So I downloaded F1 2012 to give the franchise another shot.
Playing career mode, done 2 races (50% length) so far. I have to say that so far it does feel like they have improved the AI drivers, haven't had anybody blindly turn into me, or ram me from behind yet.
So that's an improvement over the 2010 game, however now I have a whole new gripe and that is the difficulty setting. Granted I'm not a hardcore racing gamer, I don't have a wheel, I play with the same Logitech 3d joystick I played AH with. But I do like a good challenge so I start and run the first race (Australia) on "professional" difficulty, with me racing in a Caterham. AAAAnnnd I got whupped so bad it's not even funny, I expected to be near the rear in a Caterham, but I qualified dead last, and finished the race dead last, I couldn't even get near the other cars at my level like the other Caterham or the Marrusias or HRTs, they where all several tenths a lap faster no matter how hard I tried.
So I decide I'm in over my head and drop the difficulty level to "intermediate" for the next race in Malaysia. Low and behold on intermediate I put a Caterham on pole by half a second :lol and finish 3rd in the race only because my pit crew is slower then cold tar and 2 cars jumped me in the stops. :lol
What a joke... seems like they got the difficulty settings all messed up, where for the average player "professional" = impossible, and only one step down "intermediate" means you can dominate in a Caterham.... :rolleyes: They definitely need another setting in between it seems to me.
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A film I did for 2010, mainly about hotlaps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uAz9FOvUM
Afilm for 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSNWoSD7KCE
Both films were on the hardest difficulty settings without driver aids.
I would have done a 2012 one, but a Force Feedback motor burned out and without any feeling to the 'car' I was the Jean Denis Deletraz of the game :cry
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A fun flying racing game I've been flying lately is Altitude 0, or A0 for short. It's supposed to go open beta this week. Check it out: http://www.altitude0.com/home (http://www.altitude0.com/home)
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I play iRacing, road side but they have ovals :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCCOQq-pRiQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCCOQq-pRiQ)
Petit of Lemans :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMX3eTBVtbo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMX3eTBVtbo)
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I started back on I racing this past weekend. Ordered my G27 should be here today ;)
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So I downloaded F1 2012 to give the franchise another shot.
Playing career mode, done 2 races (50% length) so far. I have to say that so far it does feel like they have improved the AI drivers, haven't had anybody blindly turn into me, or ram me from behind yet.
So that's an improvement over the 2010 game, however now I have a whole new gripe and that is the difficulty setting. Granted I'm not a hardcore racing gamer, I don't have a wheel, I play with the same Logitech 3d joystick I played AH with. But I do like a good challenge so I start and run the first race (Australia) on "professional" difficulty, with me racing in a Caterham. AAAAnnnd I got whupped so bad it's not even funny, I expected to be near the rear in a Caterham, but I qualified dead last, and finished the race dead last, I couldn't even get near the other cars at my level like the other Caterham or the Marrusias or HRTs, they where all several tenths a lap faster no matter how hard I tried.
So I decide I'm in over my head and drop the difficulty level to "intermediate" for the next race in Malaysia. Low and behold on intermediate I put a Caterham on pole by half a second :lol and finish 3rd in the race only because my pit crew is slower then cold tar and 2 cars jumped me in the stops. :lol
What a joke... seems like they got the difficulty settings all messed up, where for the average player "professional" = impossible, and only one step down "intermediate" means you can dominate in a Caterham.... :rolleyes: They definitely need another setting in between it seems to me.
Uhm, how about trying Red Bull in professional and you might rank up where you belong against the pro level drivers (i.e. in the last 2 positions).
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Uhm, how about trying Red Bull in professional and you might rank up where you belong against the pro level drivers (i.e. in the last 2 positions).
I think you misunderstood my complaint.
All I'm saying is that they need a difficultly level between. "Getting lapped by HRTs" and "Winning pole and every race in a Caterham"
Like I' said, I'm nowhere on professional setting, and on intermediate I'm leading the championship in a Caterham... easily. Seems like an awfully big leap. It is just a game for entertainment purposes is it not? If you're going to do variable difficulty, then do it right.
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Whats a good racing game? What kinda hardware do you need? Thanks
I'm liking the Dirt series. I've played Dirt 1 & 2 and they were pretty good, IMO. Looking forward to 3. Just using keypad for controls... (that sucks, but do-able.)
Coogan :joystick:
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Wasn't Grand Prix Legends pretty well respected for its driving model?
http://youtu.be/PQ8_fBgRDwI
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Wasn't Grand Prix Legends pretty well respected for its driving model?
Grand Prix legends is a milestone in racing sim history for sure. I guess we won't ever see again a sim with that approach. I remember buying my first computer and that game shortly after, I wasn't interested in other racing sims. It was the closest thing to the "real deal" to my understanding. However, some time later, I discovered the best GPL drivers used a "driving technique" inapplicable to real life (after final official patch), so I became somewhat disillusioned with that sim. I can accept performance figures for cars being slightly off, but having to "learn the game" instead of just "lear to drive" (in addition to inherent pc simulation compromises) made spending hours of fustration (inherent to racing sims :) ) in front of the wheel less appealing. That was (is) my ingenuous ambition: "learn to drive a sports car"... on the cheap. I'm not a good driver, FWIW.
Maybe things have changed since then, with community hacks or whatever, I don't know.
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Nobody mentioned that in fact there are other options to logitech g27. You should check thrustmaster t500 rs and fanatec products at least. I don't know which is better.