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Title: Cold War Arena
Post by: FA_Refugee on June 26, 2013, 05:11:55 PM
...with MIG-15, F-86, Tu-4, B-29.  Can anyone add others to this list?.  Small maps to enable easy access to fights and carpet bombing.

 :airplane:
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Myg on June 26, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Great idea for custom arena gameplay.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 26, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
Problem with jet combat is speeds in different dimensions. Actual in game dimension and cp lag wise. I don't know the precise details but this has been ask for previously.

Jet combat is way more difficult than prop plane combat, maneuvers take more time, and more
more space. Not to say that wouldn't stop me from trying to kill the hi end stuff with a sea fury or corsairs
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: RedBull1 on June 26, 2013, 05:53:21 PM
Problem with jet combat is speeds in different dimensions. Actual in game dimension and cp lag wise. I don't know the precise details but this has been ask for previously.
What? How do you think we have 262 fights now lol?

IIRC (dont hold me to it) HT has said he wants one day to have a cold war arena, though
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 26, 2013, 05:53:52 PM
...with MIG-15, F-86, Tu-4, B-29.  Can anyone add others to this list?.  Small maps to enable easy access to fights and carpet bombing.

 :airplane:

Super Corsair
P-51D
Po-2
F9F Panther
A-1 Skyraider
F-94B Starfire
F-86B/C/E/F
F-80
F2H
F-84D/E
P-82
B-26 Invader
Il-10
La-11
La-9
Yak-9

ack-ack
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 26, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
What? How do you think we have 262 fights now lol?

IIRC (dont hold me to it) HT has said he wants one day to have a cold war arena, though

I'm just repeating something I heard to sound smart for once :old:




Armstrong/hawker sea hawk
avro Canada cf100 Canuck
de haviland hornet
de haviland sea vixen
de haviland vampire

Douglas skyray
f7 tigercat
hawker hunter
hawker sea fury
Mig17
f104
f2h banshee

Saab 21
Saab j29 tunnen
supermarine attacker
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 26, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
I'm just repeating something I heard to sound smart for once :old:




Armstrong/hawker sea hawk
avro Canada cf100 Canuck
de haviland hornet
de haviland sea vixen
de haviland vampire

Douglas skyray
f7 tigercat
hawker hunter
hawker sea fury
Mig17
f104
f2h banshee

Saab 21
Saab j29 tunnen
supermarine attacker

MiG-17 didn't see action in the Korean War.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 26, 2013, 06:12:02 PM

MiG-17 didn't see action in the Korean War.

ack-ack

he said cold war I'm listing cold war aircraft(used from 45-55)
 :neener:
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: gyrene81 on June 26, 2013, 06:16:47 PM
he said cold war I'm listing cold war aircraft(used from 45-55)
 :neener:
ya, he did say "cold war"...that would include any aircraft in service from 1947 to 1991...

f-107
f4 phantom
f14 tomcat
f15 eagle
corsair 2
mig23
mig21
f16
shenyang j-8d
mirage 3
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 26, 2013, 06:32:16 PM
Tu160
tu95

su9
su11
su15
su25
su35/37
mig 27
mig25
mig29
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Nefarious on June 26, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
A-6 Intruder
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: LCADolby on June 26, 2013, 09:01:22 PM
Jaguar  :D
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 26, 2013, 09:17:38 PM
A-7
A-10
A-4
AC-130???
FB-111
F-15E
Kfir
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Devil 505 on June 26, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
A-6 Intruder
I like it! +1 :aok
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Baggy on June 27, 2013, 02:11:24 PM
English Electric Lightning
English Electric Canberra
Blackburn Buccaneer
Avro Vulcan
Handley Page Victor
Gloster Javelin
Vickers Valiant
....Fairey Gannet :0)


Some footage of HMS Eagle in 1970
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GmedVgbW-A




Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Old Sport on June 27, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/F-8E_VMF-212_CVA-34_1965_%28cropped%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 27, 2013, 04:31:33 PM
 :O corsair 2! Sexy bird and one of the last gunfighters :airplane:
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Shifty on June 27, 2013, 09:11:51 PM
That is an F-8 Crusader in the picture above.

The Corsair II was the A-7 attack plane. Shorter and fatter.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/A-7B_Corsair_II_VA-305.jpg)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 28, 2013, 01:32:55 AM
Whoops! I made a mistake. They both sexy birds! :t


My favorite ligh attack is the A-4 skyraider aka "scooter"
sucker was made to drop nukes
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: matt on June 28, 2013, 01:42:36 AM
Might as well add helicopters King cobra-- Apache
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 28, 2013, 01:54:20 AM
Might as well add helicopters King cobra-- Apache
uh-1, uh-60, mi-24,mi14, mi8

Not to mention the Av8 and Russia Vtol aircraft(designation currently slips my mind)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: danny76 on June 28, 2013, 03:01:21 AM
English Electric Lightning
English Electric Canberra
Blackburn Buccaneer
Avro Vulcan
Handley Page Victor
Gloster Javelin
Vickers Valiant
....Fairey Gannet :0)


Some footage of HMS Eagle in 1970
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GmedVgbW-A






Went a bit.dizzy at the.thought.of flying cartoon Lightning :pray
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: hotcoffe on June 28, 2013, 04:45:52 AM
I rather like to have a Korean war arena. Which would lay down the infrastructure for a cold war arena.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Eric19 on June 28, 2013, 07:12:05 AM
U2s :old: SR71 :D
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Arlo on June 28, 2013, 09:15:51 AM
I rather like to have a Korean war arena. Which would lay down the infrastructure for a cold war arena.

I'd like the Korean War arena without further infrastructure for a guided missile/SAM fest.

Having a Spanish Civil War fest would be cool. Kinda plugs some of the gap tween WWI and WWII.

Aces High 1916-1952: 36 years of 20th century aerial warfare.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Stellaris on June 28, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
Avro Arrow and XB-70 Valkyrie!

Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on June 28, 2013, 10:35:52 AM
Avro Arrow and XB-70 Valkyrie!


The Valkyrie would be a bad addition.  Only 3 models were built

But it would be the fastest plane around
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: FA_Refugee on June 28, 2013, 03:02:18 PM
I rather like to have a Korean war arena. Which would lay down the infrastructure for a cold war arena.

This is better than the OP wish.

 :aok hotcoffe
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: BuckShot on June 29, 2013, 09:07:05 AM
That twin mustang would be neat.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Stellaris on June 29, 2013, 09:07:52 PM
Only six of the Arrow were ever built, but y'know, while we're wishing for the cold war arena, we might as well wish big.

I'd also like AN-602 100 Mt bomb for the Valkyrie to carry.  Only one built and it's a Russian weapon, but it'd be so cool!
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: danny76 on June 30, 2013, 04:14:33 AM
The Valkyrie would be a bad addition.  Only 3 models were built

But it would be the fastest plane around

If you can ask for the Valkyrie I want the TSR-2 :old:
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Stellaris on June 30, 2013, 09:27:28 AM
A-12 interceptor!
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: B3YT on June 30, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
If you can ask for the Valkyrie I want the TSR-2 :old:

My first thought was TSR2.    Damn such a sexy sexy sexy aeroplane .   
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: danny76 on June 30, 2013, 04:10:22 PM
My first thought was TSR2.    Damn such a sexy sexy sexy aeroplane .   

Stimied by the US because it was just too damn good :old:
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: F77 on June 30, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
I've done an engine start and taxi on a Vulcan :)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: B3YT on June 30, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
Stimied by the US because it was just too damn good :old:

Bloody Labour party too . it would still be in front line service now .
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Rino on June 30, 2013, 08:17:17 PM
     What, no ICBMs?   :rolleyes:

      Pick a decade and stick to it guys, geeze louise.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Stellaris on June 30, 2013, 11:03:30 PM
Well, ICBMs have no pilot, the line has to be drawn somewhere.

The Almaz armed space station with the 30mm Nudelman cannon though - that's got to have a place.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Arlo on July 01, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
     What, no ICBMs?   :rolleyes:

      Pick a decade and stick to it guys, geeze louise.

3 years and a month. 25 June, 1950 – 27 July, 1953.  :D

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6729369813_16c6792645_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8483884845_0875a7240d_z.jpg)

(http://nassanfordmemorial.com/images/Banshee.jpg)

(http://www.korean-war.com/images/KWAircraft/Communist/NorthKorea/Lavochkin_La-9.jpg)

(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4945475500179762&pid=15.1)

(http://www.warbirddepot.com/dbimages/75/75-a-1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Arlo on July 01, 2013, 01:10:01 AM
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4008/4208182079_5e75f57eec_z.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2534/4208181829_4e2088da12_z.jpg)

(http://www.warbirdphotos.net/aviapix/Fighters/F82/p82.jpg)

The only 'bad' thing about a KW arena is that there's more potential for UN aircraft
than there is for NK aircraft.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 01:29:06 AM
3 years and a month. 25 June, 1950 – 27 July, 1953.  :D

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6729369813_16c6792645_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8239/8483884845_0875a7240d_z.jpg)

(http://nassanfordmemorial.com/images/Banshee.jpg)

(http://www.korean-war.com/images/KWAircraft/Communist/NorthKorea/Lavochkin_La-9.jpg)

(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4945475500179762&pid=15.1)

(http://www.warbirddepot.com/dbimages/75/75-a-1280.jpg)
(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/dillonenarsonlololol/Arlo.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/dillonenarsonlololol/media/Arlo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: AceHavok on July 01, 2013, 12:57:12 PM
A-10A Thunderbolt II? :D
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 02:13:07 PM
A-10A Thunderbolt II? :D
Warthog what's up man!?
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: danny76 on July 01, 2013, 02:39:21 PM
Thanks for them.pictures. I dont know about anyone else but I'm sold :banana:
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: LCADolby on July 01, 2013, 03:11:30 PM
Has anyone got a list of all none-missile jets?

Bet that would make for a frantic arena.

Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Arlo on July 01, 2013, 03:18:19 PM
Has anyone got a list of all none-missile jets?

Bet that would make for a frantic arena.



Korea.  :D
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: earl1937 on July 01, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
...with MIG-15, F-86, Tu-4, B-29.  Can anyone add others to this list?.  Small maps to enable easy access to fights and carpet bombing.

 :airplane:
:airplane: Don't forget the F-82, which filled a gap during the first part of the Korean war, until the F-94C came on line
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/bth_F-82-Twin-Mustang-4_zpsefa97de4.jpg?t=1372712313)

And the Boeing B-50 Bomber

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/bth_b50_n_zps1200acbf.jpg?t=1372712744)

By the way, the B-50 was first aircraft to fly non-stop around the world!!
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: LCADolby on July 01, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
Korea.  :D
So, what you're saying is; the day the Korean war ended, guided missiles went into service
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
So, what you're saying is; the day the Korean war ended, guided missiles went into service
I know we had radar aimEd rockets.....like in the F86D  :D
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Rino on July 01, 2013, 09:52:19 PM
     Eventually the F=86s carried Aim-9 Sidewinders.

(http://api.ning.com/files/EFTeIYxsysxhcoHZ0*r0RdYXN9SWPepFv0SDBphxA0muwv7TyjvlSBKGqV8WtULQFB9i4kF77mRcQ9Zr4e6oJZxqjDa5dJDX/1182518.jpg)

(http://i3.sinaimg.cn/jc/2011-12-25/U6794P27T1D678598F318DT20111225213451.jpg)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Rino on July 01, 2013, 09:55:25 PM
      You know, early missiles were not that effective.  Don't let Hollywood fool you, you had to work
for even a heatseeker kill.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Arlo on July 01, 2013, 10:37:56 PM
So, what you're saying is; the day the Korean war ended, guided missiles went into service

Did I? I didn't see me say that. But what I did say was:

Korea.

(You won't have guided missiles in that arena.) :D
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: earl1937 on July 02, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
Did I? I didn't see me say that. But what I did say was:

Korea.

(You won't have guided missiles in that arena.) :D
:airplane: Don't overlook the F-86D all weather interceptor, which as you can see from photos, it had a radar dome mounted on the front, above the intake for the engine!
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/bth_300px-North_American_F-86D-1s_USAF_in_flight_zps350fd21b.jpg?t=1372793345)

Not quite sure how well the things worked out and but it sure looked impressive up close!

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/earl1937/bth_North_American_F-86D_Sabre_Dog_rocket_tray_zpse48c919b.jpg?t=1372793417)
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 02, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
     Eventually the F=86s carried Aim-9 Sidewinders.

First combat use of the Sidewinder was in 1958, probably by one of those ROC F-86s in the bottom picture you posted.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Rino on July 03, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
      Sorry Ak, guess I'm just being a jerk  :D  Oh yeah, the Sabre Dog wasn't the only Sabre to
mount a radar, although it was alot bigger than the fighter models.

     I'm amazed that it didn't see combat until 58 myself.  By that time we had plenty of jets that
could mount them.
Title: Re: Cold War Arena
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 03, 2013, 07:44:00 PM

     I'm amazed that it didn't see combat until 58 myself.  By that time we had plenty of jets that
could mount them.

Same here, and was equally surprised that we let the ROC forces combat test them out for us against the Chinese.  I would have thought the USAF would be hesitant to let the ROC forces test the Sidewinder and risk possibly having a F-86 shot down that was equipped with the missiles and recovered by the Chinese.

ack-ack