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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: caldera on June 28, 2013, 04:52:38 PM
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In the way the plane flies without wing tips that is. This guy lost both his tips on the lead bomber shortly after passing over the base. He then comes back for another pass like it's no big deal. Other bombers seem to be incapable of staying airborne with one tip missing, but I've seen a Lanc fly on like this before. Doesn't seem feasible.
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Popped both wing tips off as well with this guy with a soft gun he seemed to be able to roll as if the ailerons were still there?.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/notippedlanc_zps93967c75.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/notippedlanc_zps93967c75.jpg.html)
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Imo as both were knocked off at the same time the flight dynamic did not change drastically. As for turning All you need is rudder and standard rate turns to me this seems feasible. I don't see steep or aggressive evasive turns being fiesable.
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It would still remain to be a balanced aircraft. Albeit, a balanced a/c with some serious lift issues.
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Have lost both wingtips in a 262 and used rudder to control roll. This allowed me to continue flying and eventually land. As for lift, well, just had to keep speed up a bit to compensate. Don't bombers use rudder turns a lot anyway?
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a/c with some serious lift issues.
6x1000LBS on board you would think so.
Seems not to matter here?
:headscratch: Oh & not forgetting only 3 good engines.
He flew out of range for film viewer to see just how far he got.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Avro%20Lancaster/6x1000lbsleft_zps047e071a.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Avro%20Lancaster/6x1000lbsleft_zps047e071a.jpg.html)
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Remember, the lift lost from losing the outer wing doesn't match the graphical part lost. The model may be based on only losing the tip rather than half of the wing.
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I've knocked both the wings off of a F4F purposely to try to drive it into a barn and found I could not because the structure of the wings seems to still be there even after they are knocked off.
Not really related unless this invisible structure provides a little bit of lift?
Would love to see how fast a lanc would go missing wing tips like that when empty with all 4 engines working.
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6x1000LBS on board you would think so.
Seems not to matter here?
:headscratch: Oh & not forgetting only 3 good engines.
He flew out of range for film viewer to see just how far he got.
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Avro%20Lancaster/6x1000lbsleft_zps047e071a.jpg) (http://s1002.photobucket.com/user/barneybolac/media/Avro%20Lancaster/6x1000lbsleft_zps047e071a.jpg.html)
This guy didn't seem to be affected at all. Only running out of gas brought him down. Seems like lugging ords, with a huge amount of wing area lost would also cause quite a drop in altitude - after four minutes of extending doing a 180 and then coming back for another pass - nope, not in this case.
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/wings.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/wings.jpg.html)
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Remember, the lift lost from losing the outer wing doesn't match the graphical part lost. The model may be based on only losing the tip rather than half of the wing.
^ this would be a pretty good explanation. Did you two read this comment?
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^ this would be a pretty good explanation. Did you two read this comment?
Yes & if so something should be corrected by HTC so this issue won't keep coming back up.
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Lanc does not go any faster missing wings outboard the engines.
I'm guessing things like landing gear on d3a and stuka missing will reduce drag but the missing outer wings drag stays whether they are there or not.
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Lanc does not go any faster missing wings outboard the engines.
It should :headscratch:
When it falls to earth???
Oh yeah that is the problem it keeps flying. :devil
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Lanc does not go any faster missing wings outboard the engines.
That could be right anyway. If the wing's total lift is reduced the plane will have to fly at a higher angle of attack to maintain level flight. This higher angle of attack will increase the drag from the rest of the airframe and that could balance the reduction in frontal area caused by the loss of the tips.
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If you drive the wingtips into the hangar and knock them off, try driving past the hangar again and you will find you don't get extra clearance by having the wingtips missing.
They are still there......at least as far as collision and drag are concerned.
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I saw one of ONLY two flying Lancasters at The Greatest Show On Turf 2013 (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/fuzeman/media/DSCF0014_zps7634c459.mp4.html)