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Title: What has this game come to?
Post by: olds442 on June 30, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
Really is it so bad that we have to sit at 20k then BnZ a 47D11 fighting a zeke and a k4 and then say that you got "owned" on 200... Then when i come back and  :ahand you say that now IM the picktard even tho i was only at 8k vs you at 5k?
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Max on June 30, 2013, 02:40:47 PM
uhoh...possible fuss  :x
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 30, 2013, 02:54:13 PM
These "billy badass" threads from Olds make me laugh.

When he posts, this is what I picture he looks like.
(http://static.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/love-hate-baby.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: olds442 on June 30, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
These "billy badass" threads from Olds make me laugh.

When he posts, this is what I picture he looks like.
(http://static.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/love-hate-baby.jpg)

ack-ack
Well sir i have no idea what you are getting at but you seem to think the behaviour i explained in the post is ok because it happened to me correct? And if it happens to you then its bad?
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Zacherof on June 30, 2013, 06:17:37 PM
Ack is a picktard himself :D
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: MK-84 on June 30, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
These "billy badass" threads from Olds make me laugh.

When he posts, this is what I picture he looks like.
(http://static.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/love-hate-baby.jpg)

ack-ack

 :noid

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XFj7YsHUMPs/UKJrxsXUZdI/AAAAAAAAAG8/OuK4NRqdRSI/s1600/teen+angst.jpg)
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Devil 505 on June 30, 2013, 07:57:58 PM
These "billy badass" threads from Olds make me laugh.

When he posts, this is what I picture he looks like.
(http://static.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/love-hate-baby.jpg)

ack-ack

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: uptown on July 01, 2013, 12:12:32 AM
Really is it so bad that we have to sit at 20k then BnZ a 47D11 fighting a zeke and a k4 and then say that you got "owned" on 200... Then when i come back and  :ahand you say that now IM the picktard even tho i was only at 8k vs you at 5k?
Hasn't it always been that way?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: The Fury on July 01, 2013, 06:21:53 AM
Hasn't it always been that way?  :headscratch:

Yep sure has, the only thing that seems to have changed for me in the past few years is there is a couple of squads who wont fight unless they have an advantage they come in at mental altitudes with a lot of numbers and will run as soon as they lose advantage then get all johnny big balls when his ten mates turn back up. The sad thing is they wont fight alone at all.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Randy1 on July 01, 2013, 06:41:45 AM
This is easy to fix.  Turn off 200.  Not sure why HTC leaves 200 operational.  200 is just a breeding ground for AH rage.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Rich46yo on July 01, 2013, 06:54:51 AM
Cornholio say...."I am Cornholio, you should always watch your 6-hole".
(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/Funny/corny.jpg)
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: JOACH1M on July 01, 2013, 07:02:01 AM
This is easy to fix.  Turn off 200.  Not sure why HTC leaves 200 operational.  200 is just a breeding ground for AH rage.
is there something wrong with that?
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: ImADot on July 01, 2013, 08:52:04 AM
This is easy to fix.  Turn off 200.  Not sure why HTC leaves 200 operational.  200 is just a breeding ground for AH rage.

The easy fix is for YOU to not tune to ch200. If HTC disallowed 200, people still have 201-299 left that do the same thing.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: olds442 on July 01, 2013, 09:08:39 AM
Yep sure has, the only thing that seems to have changed for me in the past few years is there is a couple of squads who wont fight unless they have an advantage they come in at mental altitudes with a lot of numbers and will run as soon as they lose advantage then get all johnny big balls when his ten mates turn back up. The sad thing is they wont fight alone at all.
THIS is the fundamental issue, to be honest I really wouldn't care if people did pick. Just please, if you are going to BnZ all day I don't think its needed to brag about it  ;)
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: MK-84 on July 01, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
THIS is the fundamental issue, to be honest I really wouldn't care if people did pick. Just please, if you are going to BnZ all day I don't think its needed to brag about it  ;)

So what you are saying is that the fundamental issue is only someone bragging about a kill. 
What was this part of your quote doing then? 

"...Then when i come back and :ahand you say that n...."

That looks quite a bit like bragging to me.  If I understand this properly it appears you have just discovered that you are in fact the problem
 :)
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: dedalos on July 01, 2013, 10:22:41 AM
This is easy to fix.  Turn off 200.  Not sure why HTC leaves 200 operational.  200 is just a breeding ground for AH rage.

Because 201 is available  :rofl
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: olds442 on July 01, 2013, 11:33:42 AM
So what you are saying is that the fundamental issue is only someone bragging about a kill. 
What was this part of your quote doing then? 

"...Then when i come back and :ahand you say that n...."

That looks quite a bit like bragging to me.  If I understand this properly it appears you have just discovered that you are in fact the problem
 :)
Its not bragging its saying when the guy actually had a fight in which he is not in outer space and comes diving in on me all of a sudden im the pick tard
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: guncrasher on July 01, 2013, 12:11:18 PM
This is easy to fix.  Turn off 200.  Not sure why HTC leaves 200 operational.  200 is just a breeding ground for AH rage.

dude I log in just to talk on 200.  bs and joking around is one of the best parts of the game.  the other is rocket vulching :).



semp
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: MK-84 on July 01, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
dude I log in just to talk on 200.  bs and joking around is one of the best parts of the game.  the other is rocket vulching :).



semp

Still mad at you for that btw. :D
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: aztec on July 01, 2013, 04:29:26 PM
Anyone seen Zack in here? :headscratch:
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Arlo on July 01, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
Anyone seen Zack in here? :headscratch:

You lost Zack?
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 04:53:40 PM
He's probally in some other thread :rofl
and  :old: some poor chap
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Babalonian on July 01, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Really is it so bad that we have to sit at 20k then BnZ a 47D11 fighting a zeke and a k4 and then say that you got "owned" on 200... Then when i come back and  :ahand you say that now IM the picktard even tho i was only at 8k vs you at 5k?

I've done this same exact thing, 12-times a night, every night I play ni the LWMA... how come I never get a ragethread like this?  :o
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: guncrasher on July 01, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
Still mad at you for that btw. :D

for rocket vulching  :angel:.


semp
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: aztec on July 02, 2013, 10:52:41 AM
He's probally in some other thread :rofl
and  :old: some poor chap
He shouldn't be running round unsupervised :uhoh
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Zacherof on July 02, 2013, 12:50:09 PM
He shouldn't be running round unsupervised :uhoh
I'll ask the president of Uganda for help :old:
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Wiley on July 02, 2013, 01:29:40 PM
Its not bragging its saying when the guy actually had a fight in which he is not in outer space and comes diving in on me all of a sudden im the pick tard

To some people, dead is dead.  Personally I'm not one to talk smack when I outskill someone because I can only back it so far, but to some it doesn't matter if it was a 5 minute 1v1 or if they were the 5th one in to pick you, a kill means they have to proclaim their uberness.

Not the way I prefer to do things, but meh...  Guess they gotta get their jollies somehow.

Wiley.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Changeup on July 02, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
Really is it so bad that we have to sit at 20k then BnZ a 47D11 fighting a zeke and a k4 and then say that you got "owned" on 200... Then when i come back and  :ahand you say that now IM the picktard even tho i was only at 8k vs you at 5k?

This is why so many are invited to the DA...but yet so few go.  Guess which one doesn't go...guess

The 200 pwnertalker never goes.

The disease is Midway's Syndrome..  If one talks enough smack on 200, they actually begin to believe they are good.  There are more and more AHers being stricken with Midway's Syndrome every single day.....but you can help.  For just 4 beeeyatch slap downs a day, you can save one of these AHers from this terrible affliction and help restore them to a normal, healthy lifestyle of embracing their suckage.  Think about it?  If you or one of your loved ones were stricken with this horrible disease, you'd want to help.  Remember, just 4 beeeyatch slap downs a day is worth of lifetime of realizing they suck and that's the greatest gift anyone can give a sucky AHer.

Won't you give today?
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 03, 2013, 07:43:35 AM
This is easy to fix.  Turn off 200.  Not sure why HTC leaves 200 operational.  200 is just a breeding ground for AH rage.

200 is a choice and channel that was chosen by the players and is not the default "all" channel and was created specifically for such things. Your solution of just turning it off is the obvious one. If there is anything you dont like going on on C200. Go back to the default.

If you dont like whats being shown on CBS. Do you stay tuned to it or change to another channel?
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 03, 2013, 07:52:51 AM
Yep sure has, the only thing that seems to have changed for me in the past few years is there is a couple of squads who wont fight unless they have an advantage they come in at mental altitudes with a lot of numbers and will run as soon as they lose advantage then get all johnny big balls when his ten mates turn back up. The sad thing is they wont fight alone at all.

I havent found that a new thing. Alot of squads or people have always been that way. What I see much more of now are people who make one pass. (usually a HO) and if they miss, dive out and run to their ack and stay there only becoming aggressive again when either 4-5 of their buddies show up or you dare venture into ack range. Often they may start to give chase if you decide to fly away. But will just as often turn back around and run to the protection of field ack the moment you turn back on them again  without even attempting to merge
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: VonMessa on July 03, 2013, 08:20:06 AM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Yoda_zps46eda2e1.jpg)
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: morfiend on July 03, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
Because 201 is available  :rofl


  Geez Ded I'm surprized you remember that!!  BTW the left blinker on your buick is still on!     :devil




    :salute
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Shifty on July 03, 2013, 05:03:46 PM
200 is a choice and channel that was chosen by the players and is not the default "all" channel and was created specifically for such things. Your solution of just turning it off is the obvious one. If there is anything you dont like going on on C200. Go back to the default.

If you dont like whats being shown on CBS. Do you stay tuned to it or change to another channel?

^ This
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: titanic3 on July 03, 2013, 08:14:48 PM
I havent found that a new thing. Alot of squads or people have always been that way. What I see much more of now are people who make one pass. (usually a HO) and if they miss, dive out and run to their ack and stay there only becoming aggressive again when either 4-5 of their buddies show up or you dare venture into ack range. Often they may start to give chase if you decide to fly away. But will just as often turn back around and run to the protection of field ack the moment you turn back on them again  without even attempting to merge

Yup. Fight til you can't.  :aok
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: The Fury on July 04, 2013, 07:22:57 AM
I havent found that a new thing. Alot of squads or people have always been that way. What I see much more of now are people who make one pass. (usually a HO) and if they miss, dive out and run to their ack and stay there only becoming aggressive again when either 4-5 of their buddies show up or you dare venture into ack range. Often they may start to give chase if you decide to fly away. But will just as often turn back around and run to the protection of field ack the moment you turn back on them again  without even attempting to merge

Yep that just about sums it up I remember there used to be a lot more furballers about and flying turn planes was cool now its cool to ho and run and gang it seems. I have turned back into a mass of enemies to save a friendly plenty of times and I will fight you in any plane I am in just because its fun. Why cant more people think like this?  :huh I think more things associated with scores and acheivements make players more timid especially the ones who actually care about that stuff.

I also think the huge amount of smack talking going on lately has a big influence on this too because no-one wants to get shot down by php and told that he owns you or any of the smacktalkers for that matter yeah I know smacktalking has been around for ever and there has always been a Midway/Php if we didn't have 200 the smacktalking would obviously reduce. I tune to 200 every blue moon but I wouldn't miss it at all if it was gone.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: The Fugitive on July 04, 2013, 08:04:29 AM
I think it is a frame of mind. Some of us who have been here forever have a better frame of mind when dealing with the game. We have done all the missions, base captures, win the wars, spawn camped, blow up depots with gvs, milk runs in buffs and so on. We see know that the only real lasting fun is the fight and the rest of it doesn't matter.

I don't have a problem with anyone shooting me down as long as they fought me. If they just HOed me, or picked me while I was fighting 3 others well then those days I may not bother flying much. As for the smack talk, squelch works fine. There are a number of fools who do nothing but try to get under peoples skins and I just don't bother to deal with them and squelch them as I see their name cross the buffer.

The problem tho is the new guys don't know these things. How many people does HTC lose a month to these smack talking idiots? How many people due to hordes popping newbies just trying to find a fight?  I know HTC has always been all for letting the masses do as they will....with in the few rules they do have. I think how ever they may want to take a look at those rules again. Times change and so do players. It may be time to tighten up the reigns a bit. They split the arenas because the main arena had become a cesspool. Maybe it's time to change a few things again to get a bit cleaner play.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Slade on July 04, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
VonMessa +1    :salute
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Hap on July 04, 2013, 08:17:31 AM
The problem tho is the new guys don't know these things. How many people does HTC lose a month to these smack talking idiots? How many people due to hordes popping newbies just trying to find a fight?  I know HTC has always been all for letting the masses do as they will....with in the few rules they do have. I think how ever they may want to take a look at those rules again. Times change and so do players. It may be time to tighten up the reigns a bit. They split the arenas because the main arena had become a cesspool. Maybe it's time to change a few things again to get a bit cleaner play.

And clean up the bulletin board too.  Too much mockery, bullying, and folks being jerks.  If I had a 15 year old child, I would not teach him AH.  10 years ago when my daughter was 10, I did let her play a bit.  She enjoyed the little she played. 

I don't understand how our present climate on the boards and in the game can be good for HTC's future business growth.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Daddkev on July 04, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Hahaha..Love you Morf, you always tell them how I feel!  :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: 68ZooM on July 04, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
And clean up the bulletin board too.  Too much mockery, bullying, and folks being jerks.  If I had a 15 year old child, I would not teach him AH.  10 years ago when my daughter was 10, I did let her play a bit.  She enjoyed the little she played.  

I don't understand how our present climate on the boards and in the game can be good for HTC's future business growth.

Its because a select group have been allowed to bully, belittle players. They also think there above the majority of the players so that gives them the right to talk down to the players from their pedestals all from the security of their computers. One's already had his  :ahand to him i'm sure more will come.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Zacherof on July 04, 2013, 12:49:44 PM
I think there is still hope. When I fly(12 am Cali time)
there's usually a 8v8 battle going on and everyone plays fair(no ho's and ack runners)

AKAK and his pals will show up at 20k, so you have to adapt and also climb to 20k.
It only takes about 5-8 minutes to do so. 


Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Tupac on July 04, 2013, 12:50:14 PM
Its because a select group have been allowed to bully, belittle players. They also think there above the majority of the players so that gives them the right to talk down to the players from their pedestals all from the security of their computers. One's already had his  :ahand to him i'm sure more will come.

Yup.
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: guncrasher on July 04, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Yep that just about sums it up I remember there used to be a lot more furballers about and flying turn planes was cool now its cool to ho and run and gang it seems. I have turned back into a mass of enemies to save a friendly plenty of times and I will fight you in any plane I am in just because its fun. Why cant more people think like this?  :huh I think more things associated with scores and acheivements make players more timid especially the ones who actually care about that stuff.

I also think the huge amount of smack talking going on lately has a big influence on this too because no-one wants to get shot down by php and told that he owns you or any of the smacktalkers for that matter yeah I know smacktalking has been around for ever and there has always been a Midway/Php if we didn't have 200 the smacktalking would obviously reduce. I tune to 200 every blue moon but I wouldn't miss it at all if it was gone.

I remember when I got here that you were called a dweeb if you flew a spitfire, hurrican or a zero.  and it is still the same "get your training wheels off.." calls.  so I think a lot of people just said the hell with it and went to fly la7's, 190, ponies, and any p47 with unlimited ammo.  I have noticed that a lot more people will fly la7's than spitfires into furballs?  and when you look at their stats, they're just terrible.

and god forbid that you should shoot down an "expert" in a 1v1 then it turns into a 10 minute whining of why he lost and why you are a skill-less dweeb that couldnt fight your way out of a wet paper bag.



semp
semp
Title: Re: What has this game come to?
Post by: Changeup on July 04, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
I humbly submit this:

1.  The flight model is accurate and the learning curve is steep.  Lots to manage: SA, flying, aerial gunnery, basic ACM, advanced ACM and it all takes real time, most of which, very few people have
2.  No one likes to lose.  So, easiest way to get a kill is bnz, pick, horde.  It just is.
3.  Skills obtained degrade quickly even though the game doesn't change much.  People that come back, often do the fast, no turny thing
4.  The culture has changed from top dog 1 v 1 to paying more attention to one's score.  Its migrated from a culture of skill to a skill of managing the new culture of instant gratification (the kill)
5.  Smack talking promotes skillessness.  "I don't have to be skillful to pick, vulch, altfairy, gang, horde but I got you just the same" which drives #2 to rinse, repeat with no adverse side-affects, lol

I don't know what is right.  I only know what I like and what I need to try to improve to be culturally the first part of #4.

Regards