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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 11:32:22 AM

Title: American plane set
Post by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 11:32:22 AM
Were all American planes able to take away a few guns and/or limit ammunition?
If so I'd love to have it modeled for a few planes: I.E.
F4U's, F6,


Did and British pilots do similar stuff for their aircraft?(those not supplied by lend-lease)
Title: Re: American plane set
Post by: whiteman on July 01, 2013, 11:40:21 AM
I have never seen anything with the F4U or F6F having four 50's only. The only options I've seen is the four 20mm cannons on the F4U-1C and the F6F-5N (night fighter) with two 20mm cannons and 4 50's.
Title: Re: American plane set
Post by: Saxman on July 01, 2013, 12:01:44 PM
As whiteman said, I've never heard of alternate gun packages for the F4U and F6F. I think someone DID post that the Navy and Marines operating procedures allowed for varied ammunition loads, including a light package (50% ammo) and there may have been an overload configuration, but I can't remember.

The only reason the F4F has two gun packages is because our F4F is basically filling in for two models: The F4F-3 and F4F-4. Although really, the four-gun package actually makes it an FM-1, which is GM's version of the -4 (the F4F-3 would have entirely different performance characteristics due to the -4 being a heavier aircraft, as well as its reduced fuel capacity).
Title: Re: American plane set
Post by: Karnak on July 01, 2013, 12:21:36 PM
I've heard of field changes, primarily at Malta and for high altitude intercept attempts, to Spitfire armaments, but nothing that wasn't a field mod.  Hurricane Mk IIb pilots often removed the outer four .303s to improve handling, but we functionally have that option in AH by taking a Hurricane Mk IIa's eight .303s.

The "universal wing" that the Mk IX and Mk VIII have in AH were setup to take either eight .303s or two 20mm and four .303s or four 20mm, but in practice only the two 20mm and four .303s was used.
Title: Re: American plane set
Post by: Zacherof on July 01, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
Hmmm well alright. Thanks for input guys :salute
Title: Re: American plane set
Post by: B3YT on July 02, 2013, 01:58:49 AM
I've heard of field changes, primarily at Malta and for high altitude intercept attempts, to Spitfire armaments, but nothing that wasn't a field mod.  Hurricane Mk IIb pilots often removed the outer four .303s to improve handling, but we functionally have that option in AH by taking a Hurricane Mk IIa's eight .303s.

The "universal wing" that the Mk IX and Mk VIII have in AH were setup to take either eight .303s or two 20mm and four .303s or four 20mm, but in practice only the two 20mm and four .303s was used.

Some MkVIII squadrons in the far east would take the 4 20mm on ground attack missions but only 2 to 3 a flight with the others taking the normal load out as the 4X 20mm made the handling suffer  .  It was not taken very often and would be done the day before  a mission and then returned to normal right after . the 4 20mm load also had reduced ammo count 80rpg if i recall instead of 120 rpg .