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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Letalis on July 04, 2013, 01:41:51 PM
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Yes, I did and I'm glad I did so :P
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It is time for the Yak-3. It's been runner up three times I think now,,, always a brides maid!
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Agreed. I have high, completely ungrounded in reality hopes for the next update...
Wiley.
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It is time for the Yak-3. It's been runner up three times I think now,,, always a brides maid!
Yak-3 has only been a runner up once when it lost to the Me410. The runner up to the B-29 was the Me410 and the runner up to the B-25 was the P-39.
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For the "overall" need of AH, the Beaufighter should have been the winner. The Yak-3 has only MA potential, whereas the 410 has only event potential.
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For the "overall" need of AH, the Beaufighter should have been the winner. The Yak-3 has only MA potential, whereas the 410 has only event potential.
The Beau would fly less than the Mossie. I would rather have another MA plane.
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The Beau would fly less than the Mossie. I would rather have another MA plane.
you should fly ingame with me :)
I'll show you the path of the underdogs :airplane: :joystick:
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Yes, I did and I'm glad I did so :P
Unfortunately so did I...and now I am filled with regret. I'm sorry Waystin, I'm so sorry.
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whereas the 410 has only event potential.
So the solid usage in the MA is bogus? ;)
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So the solid usage in the MA is bogus? ;)
Seemed to me usage seems to be rising slightly
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So the solid usage in the MA is bogus? ;)
How successful is the plane in general in that solid usage?
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We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
No, not "We".
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We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
No, not "We".
I voted for the A26 :furious
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How successful is the plane in general in that solid usage?
In raw usage (K+D) it's currently ranked # 42 out of 93 planes in this years stats. Ahead of planes like the Yak-U, Ta 152H, 109G-2&6, Ju 88...
It's overall K/D is rather low at 0.61, but it has a much better records vs bombers (3.81).
Far from being the "best" fighter in the MA, it still sees quite a lot of usage as you can see.
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Lusche,
Do you have stats for the Yak9U versus all other hub mounted cannon fighters?
109F-K4
Ta152
Yak9T
P39
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Lusche,
Do you have stats for the Yak9U versus all other hub mounted cannon fighters?
109F-K4
Ta152
Yak9T
P39
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I voted for the A26 :furious
No you didn't.
And even if it had been an option, the plane in AH with the closest performance to the A-26 is the Me410.
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Yak3 would get used by a grateful player base looking at this. If more than the Yak9U will depend on what Hitech chooses to give us.
Thank you Lusche.
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I like Yaks! :airplane:
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If the 410's nose didn't drop sooooooooooo bad, it would get a lot more use by at least me!
Thanks for a would be awesome plane that is practically unplayable! :frown: <--- my opinion and I'm entitled to my opinion!
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I've always been curious what the attraction of the Yak-3 is. As far as I can see, it will be highly similar to the 109G-10 to the K4. It's not really needed for special events, and quite honestly will be lost in the crowd in the MA.
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Not to mention its ammo load is on the small side.
Whats the difference between the -3, -7, and -9??
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As far as I can see, it will be highly similar to the 109G-10 to the K4. It's not really needed for special events, and quite honestly will be lost in the crowd in the MA.
Similar?
Not really needed for events? Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-3
Operational history
Lighter and smaller than Yak-9 but powered by the same engine, the Yak-3 was a forgiving, easy-to-handle aircraft loved by both rookie and veteran pilots and ground crew as well. It was robust, easy to maintain, and a highly successful dog-fighter.[1] It was used mostly as a tactical fighter, flying low over battlefields and engaging in dogfights below 13,000 ft.[4]
The new aircraft began to reach front line units during summer 1944. Yak-3 service tests were conducted by 91st IAP of the 2nd Air Army, commanded by Lt Colonel Kovalyov, in June–July 1944. The regiment had the task of gaining air superiority. During 431 missions, 20 Luftwaffe fighters and three Ju 87s were shot down while Soviet losses amounted to two Yak-3s shot down.[5] A large dogfight developed on 16 June 1944, when 18 Yak-3s clashed with 24 German aircraft. Soviet Yak-3 fighters shot down 15 German aircraft for the loss of one Yak destroyed and one damaged. The following day, Luftwaffe activity over that section of the front had virtually ceased.[5] On 17 July 1944, eight Yaks attacked a formation of 60 German aircraft, including escorting fighters. In the ensuing dogfight, the Luftwaffe lost three Junkers Ju 87s and four Bf 109Gs, for no losses to the Yaks.[6] Consequently, the Luftwaffe issued an order to "avoid combat below five thousand metres with Yakovlev fighters lacking an oil cooler intake beneath the nose!"[7] Luftwaffe fighters in combat with the Yak-3 tried to use surprise tactics, attacking from above.[8]
Unresolved wartime problems with the Yak-3 included plywood surfaces coming unstuck when the aircraft pulled out of a high-speed dive.[1] Other drawbacks of the aircraft were short range and poor engine reliability. The pneumatic system for actuating landing gear, flaps and brakes, typical for all Yakovlev fighters of the time, was problematic. Though less reliable than hydraulic or electrical alternatives, the pneumatic system was preferred owing to significant weight savings.
In 1944, the Normandie-Niemen Group re-equipped with the Yak-3, scoring with it the last 99 of their 273 air victories against the Luftwaffe. [8]
^ a b c d Glancey 2006, p. 180.
^ a b Glancey 2006, p. 179.
^ a b Gordon 2008, p. 188.
^ Morgan 1999, p. 52.
^ Green, William (1957). Famous Fighters of the Second World War 2. Macdonald. p. 103.
^ a b Gunston 1980, p. 203.
Normandie-Niemen
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandie-Niemen
The Normandie-Niemen Regiment (Russian: Нормандия-Неман) is a fighter squadron, later regiment (of three squadrons) of the French Air Force. It served on the Eastern Front of the European Theatre of World War II with the 1st Air Army. The regiment is notable for being one of only two air combat units from an Allied western European country to participate on the Eastern Front during World War II, the other being the British No. 151 Wing RAF,[1] and the only one to fight together with the Soviets until the end of the war in Europe.
The unit originated in mid-1943 during World War II. Initially the groupe comprised a group of French fighter pilots sent to aid Soviet forces on the Eastern Front at the suggestion of Charles de Gaulle, leader of the Free French Forces, who felt it important that French servicemen serve on all fronts in the war.
The unit was the GC3 (Groupe de Chasse 3 or 3rd Fighter Group) in the Free French Air Force, first commanded by Jean Tulasne. It fought in three campaigns on behalf of the Soviet Union between 22 March 1943, and 9 May 1945, during which time it destroyed 273 enemy aircraft and received numerous orders, citations and decorations from both France and the Soviet Union, including the French Légion d’Honneur and the Soviet Order of the Red Banner. Joseph Stalin awarded the unit the name Niemen for its participation in the Battle of the Niemen River (1944).
Yakovlev Yak-3: Main fighter aircraft of Normandie-Niemen used between end of July 1944 and May 1945.
In 1944 the groupe was expanded to become a régiment, with a fourth escadrille joining its ranks. After completing training on the more advanced Yakovlev Yak-9D fighter at Tula, the expanded regiment rejoined front line operations for its second campaign. This took place around Doubrovka (in Russia) and Gross-Kalweitchen (in East Prussia, Germany)until 27 November 1944. During this campaign Joseph Stalin ordered the regiment to style itself Normandie-Niemen in recognition of its participation in the battles to liberate the river of the same name. On 16 October, the first day of a new offensive against East Prussia, the regiment’s pilots claimed 29 enemy aircraft destroyed without loss. By the following month the regiment found itself based in German territory. By the end of the year, Pouyade was released from command of the regiment and he, along with other veteran pilots, returned to France. He was replaced by Commandant Louis Delfino. By the end of 1944 201 kills have been claimed.
14 January 1945 saw the Normandie-Niemen start its third campaign (from Dopenen to Heiligenbeil), concentrating in the East Prussian part of the German Reich, until the formal announcement of victory in the east on 9 May the day after V-E Day in Europe. The USSR expressed its gratitude to the regiment by offering 37 of the unit’s Yak-3 fighters as a gift to France. The pilots returned to a heroes' welcome in Paris on 20 June 1945.
At the end of the war, the regiment had claimed 273 enemy aircraft shot down, 37 probables, and lost 87 aircraft and 52 pilots in return. Some 5,240 sorties were flown and the unit took part in 869 dogfights. The unit also destroyed 27 trains, 22 locomotives, two E-boats, 132 trucks, and 24 staff cars. Forty-two of the squadron's pilots were killed and 30 reached ace status.[2]
Four of its pilots, Marcel Albert, Marcel Lefèvre, Jacques André and Roland de La Poype, became Heroes of the Soviet Union.
Its battle honours included such names such as Bryansk, Orel, Ielnia, Smolensk, Königsberg (later renamed Kaliningrad by the Soviets), and Pillau. It received the following decorations: from France, the Légion d'Honneur, the Croix de la Libération, the Médaille Militaire, the Croix de guerre with six palmes; from the USSR, it received the Order of the Red Banner and the Order of Alexander Nevsky, with eleven citations between the two orders.
The remaining Yak-3 fighter aircraft have now dwindled down to one which is on static display at Le Bourget's Air and Space Museum / Musée de l’air et de l’espace.
^ For a short time members of the Nos. 81 and 134 RAF squadrons of the No. 151 Wing RAF were stationed in Murmansk during September–October 1941 that conducted convoy air cover and later pilot conversion training for Red Army Air Force pilots training on Hawker Hurricane aircraft, shooting down 15 German aircraft for the loss of one Hurricane.
^ Bernole, Andre, and Glenn Barnett, "French Aces on the Eastern Front", WWII Quarterly, Fall 2011, pp. 16-25, 94.
Yak Fighters
v1.1.0 / 01 jun 02 / greg goebel / public domain
http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avyak1.html#m3
The Yak-1M was ordered into production with minor changes as the Yak-3 in October 1943, with first rollouts in March 1944. The type was being delivered in quantity to VVS frontline units by the summer of 1944. VVS pilots were extremely enthusiastic about the type, since it was a real threat to the Luftwaffe Focke-Wulf FW-190A and Messerschmitt Bf-109G.
The Yak-3 was one of the smallest and lightest major combat fighters fielded by any combatant during the war, and its high power-to-weight ratio gave it excellent performance. It could easily out-turn its adversaries, though like many "hot" aircraft it could be a dangerous handful on takeoff and landing.
http://www.pilotfriend.com/aircraft%20performance/Yak/yak_3.htm
History: During the final two years of the Second World War, the Yak-3 proved itself a powerful dogfighter. Tough and agile below an altitude of 13,000 feet, the Yak-3 dominated the skies over the battlefields of the Eastern Front during the closing years of the war.
The first attempt to build a fighter called the Yak-3 was shelved in 1941 due to a lack of building materials and an unreliable engine. The second attempt used the Yak-1M, already in production, to maintain the high number of planes being built. The Yak-3 had a new, smaller wing and smaller dimensions then its predecessor. Its light weight gave the Yak-3 more agility. The Yak-3 completed its trials in October 1943 and began equipping the 91st IAP in July of 1944. In August, small numbers of Yak-3s were built with an improved engine generating 1,700-hp, and the aircraft saw limited combat action in 1945. Production continued until 1946, by which time 4,848 had been built.
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Yakovlev Yak-3
http://www.warhistory.ie/world-war-2/yakovlev-yak-3.htm
This Soviet single-seat fighter was operational from 1943. In spite of its designation, the Yak-3 was a later aircraft than the Yak-9. It owed its existence to the fact that pilots of the latter aircraft sometimes found themselves at a disadvantage when fighting the latest German Bf 109Gs. They could climb more rapidly to 16,000ft and had better maneuverability than the Messerschmitts, but the Bf109G was more than 25mph faster than the Yak above 20,000ft and Yak-9 crews tried to avoid combat above 13,000ft.
To counter the 109G, the Russians first produced the Yak-1M, differing from the standard Yak-1 in having reduced span, a cutdown rear fuselage, and all-round-view canopy, a smaller radiator and armament of only two 12.7mm machine guns. From the Yak-1M was evolved the Yak-3, with a VK-105PF-2 engine uprated to 1290hp, the oil cooler removed from under the nose to the port wingroot, and other design refinements. Even after the 20mm gun had been put back, the Yak-3 flew 31mph faster than a Yak-9 and 25mph faster than a Bf109G, but the German aircraft remained superior above 20,000ft.
At low levels the story was very different, and many a Focke-Wulf Fw190 stalled and crashed when trying to match the tight turning circle of the Yak.
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I stand by what I said. The Yak 9 is a good enough sub that the Yak 3 is of diminished importance for special events.
And again, it will be lost in the crowd in the MA's. To many others offering similar or superior performance.
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I stand by what I said. The Yak 9 is a good enough sub that the Yak 3 is of diminished importance for special events.
And again, it will be lost in the crowd in the MA's. To many others offering similar or superior performance.
http://www.airpages.ru/eng/ru/gs_yak.shtml
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Aching with anticipation for the upcoming TDs? :D
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Personally, I still believe the following should be the next 18 aircraft and variants modeled. It's just a matter of putting them in order.
Now, that would give us the 'road map' someone suggested. :)
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http://www.airpages.ru/eng/ru/gs_yak.shtml
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Aching with anticipation for the upcoming TDs? :D
Again, I see a lot of highly similar performance numbers. Biggest difference would likely be in handling, rather than some significantly different capabilities.
Not that we shouldn't get a Yak, just that right now, other stuff has priority as far as special event additions go, and it essentially just repackages the Yak 9U s's far as the MA goes.
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Biggest difference would likely be in handling, rather than some significantly different capabilities.
Handling is a significantly different capability. I would prefer Italy get a plane or two first.
Preferably a bomber being one.
And the Russian plane set deserves the TU-2, imo.
But .... another plus for the Yak is the airframe would require little effort with a Yak-3 variant added.
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If it comes down to a choice BETWEEN the Yak 3, or a Yak 7, or a 9K, HTC would have to be brain dead to add the Yak 3.
Imo, the IAR 80 should come first as well, simply because it's an entirely new airframe, which served as Romania primary fighter for around 4 years, IIRC.
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Germany needs the 217 and/or 177, 190A3/190G
russia needs il4, tu2
Italy needs the 2005, and bomber
America needs the Sb2, a26, pbm, b17E, b24D/pb4, pby
britian needs wellingon, short stirling, and beaufighter
japan ki100, D4,B6, emily, a6m float fighter, ki45
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Can you remember the last time you saw a 410 in the game? Cause I cant. Nor did I vote for it.
We all expected a German super-plane, then again so did the Luftwaffe. They never got it and neither did we. The 410 is a mule with wings on it.
Soviet aviation continues to be 'dissed in AH. Dang shame when you think about it. 2013 and still no Red Star bomber nor a Yak-3.
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We all expected a German super-plane,
We did? :headscratch:
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IMO it is (if anything) the Yak 9U that is superfluous to requirements.
Whilst it was introduced to front line in September 1944 it was then quickly reduced in strength and implementation delayed due to persistent problems with he VK107 engine. As such its roll out during the GPW was heavily restricted although there is some evidence that it was used in Manchuria in August 45.
Hence with respect to events (scenarios) it is the Yak3 which is the iconic Yak aircraft of 1944. It was at multiple squadron strength by June 44 and played a key roll in Operation Bagration (still the largest battle in human history) flown by the Normandie Neimen as well as other air regiments within 303 IAD. It effectively rolled out to combat strength over a month before the La7 (2 cannon version)
The Yak9T, 9M and 9U carry virtually the same air frame (although the U has many refinements of the Yak3). The flight AH model already exists for the 9T & 9U. The 9M is basically a 20mm (instead of 37mm) equipped 9T it saw service in 1944. Our 9T is a late 43-44 version with the continuously rated VK105PF.
The 9M therefore is a very good stand in for the Yak9D used at Kursk.
AH could therefore introduce a generic Yak 9 with 20 and 37mm load outs with the long nose of the Yak 9T. Indeed it could also include the load out option of the extra wing tanks to emulate the Yak9DD (some of which used the Yak9T frame) For scenario use this would take thru Kursk to Bagration and even to the Oder Vistula campaign.
The Yak3 would stand alone with the VK105PF2 engine a Yak1b fuselage but slightly shorter wings and a clear bubble front canopy. For scenario use this would take us thru Bagration the Oder Vistula campaign to Berlin. As well as being IMO the Yak of choice in the MA.
For scenario use the Yak1b with VK105PF engine and Yak9T canopy would take us thru Stalingrad, Sebastipol 2, Kursk, Bagration.
From this there are 3 core variants in my wish list. Yak1b, Yak 9T/M/DD, Yak3. To best serve both scenario and MA usage.
Yak9U is a cheap addition. Its a Yak 9M with the already modelled VK107. Scenario wise it has a small role in the Oder Vistula campaign and Berlin.
To encompass the full GPW then a Yak1 would serve to bring the Yak range to offer the iconic VVS fighters from Barbarossa thru to Berlin much as the Spitfire series does for the RAF and the 109 series does for the LW.
Hence on reflection the only Yak I would be routinely interested in for the MA is the Yak3.
For events and the occasional fun ride my minimum Yak series wish would be
Yak1
Yak1b
Yak9 (long nosed generic)
Yak3
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I see 410s more often than 262 :old:
and I knew the aircaft would be pooish :rofl
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you should fly ingame with me :)
I'll show you the path of the underdogs :airplane: :joystick:
I flew (and when I can rarely play) still fly the Mossie almost exclusively. I love it - but I don't want more hangar queens.
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and I knew the aircaft would be pooish :rofl
Oh, if you fly it with brains & discipline, the plane is fine...
/bragging mode ON
vs bomber 143-6
vs fighter 25-6
vs GV 2-0
Those MK-103 are about the most devastating gun package against bombers there is :old:
/mode OFF
:devil
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For the most part I actually like the 110 better. But I I'm hunting bomber with the 50mm, then the 410'is awesome, especially if flown right. Or smart as I've killed many ponies who thought it would be smart to take a rope , ho, want to turn fight(pull an
immelmen) and voilà! But it isn't a 190 by any means :mad:
btw you get my last pm?
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The Me410 is pretty much exactly what I thought it would be and I voted for it.
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btw you get my last pm?
Yes. Still busy migrating all the data to the new system :)
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Oh, if you fly it with brains & discipline, the plane is fine...
/bragging mode ON
vs bomber 143-6
vs fighter 25-6
vs GV 2-0
Those MK-103 are about the most devastating gun package against bombers there is :old:
/mode OFF
:devil
Impressive results against fighters, sir. The blanket with sleeves didn't fare nearly as well:
vs fighters: 29 kills/32 deaths :ahand
vs bombers: 70 kills/8 deaths
vs cockaroaches: 5 kills/0 deaths
Were any of your fighter kills from the tailguns? I've been diced a few times by them. Unless you are in a faster plane, getting behind a 410 can be hazardous to your health. :uhoh
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Yes. Still busy migrating all the data to the new system :)
Roger that then. :cheers:
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Were any of your fighter kills from the tailguns?
I think I may had a single kill that way.
They sure do pack some bigger punch than the usual rifle caliber rear guns. In my opinion, a 410 pilot could really benefit from carrying along another player as gunner, even when only attacking bombers. Of course, the pilot jumping to the rear to gun himself is still an act of desperation...
vs fighters: 29 kills/32 deaths :ahand
That's still very much above average. Very much.
Keep in mind my own record vs fighters is the result of... hum... carefully choosing time and place of any engagement ;)
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I thought it would turn a fair bit getter than it does and be slightly tougher. I like its looks and love the cockpit layout but it is awful if you don't have Lusche's brains. There was a sortie months back where I downed a 51D, spit9 and La7 out of self-defense - such a pleasant anomaly that I haven't flown it since; helps me cope with the regret as does sobbing into the pillow at night...
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helps me cope with the regret as does sobbing into the pillow at night...
:rofl
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isn't it about time we let France in?
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We did? :headscratch:
Many did. I remember the threads. I dont think it was a "bad" addition. I just think a Soviet bomber has been the most needed addition for some years now.
The Destroyer concept was pretty flawed in practice so it should come as no surprise in the game. The exception being as a night fighter or perhaps against unescorted bombers.
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I voted for the A26 :furious
*sigh* More of the "flash-bang" style of player, huh?
I'd rather see the A20 and Boston III remodeled than HTC add in a fart in the wind flash-bang plane like the A26.
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*sigh* More of the "flash-bang" style of player, huh?
I'd rather see the A20 and Boston III remodeled than HTC add in a fart in the wind flash-bang plane like the A26.
No I'm just
looking for another bomber to fight with in a furball
Boston and A20 remodel would be dandy :aok
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The 410 got voted in because it is a late war plane with super powerful guns.
It's also the same reason why the yak3 will be voted in before the yak7b, pe2, db3, mig3, yak1, lagg, and tu2.
Since we are seeing combat now at higher altitudes recently, the cries of "yak3 is undermodeled" will start when they get owned at high altitudes by "lesser planes".
I still think the beaufighter or pe2 should be the next plane introduced.
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The 410 got voted in because it is a late war plane with super powerful guns.
It's also the same reason why the yak3 will be voted in before the yak7b, pe2, db3, mig3, yak1, lagg, and tu2.
Since we are seeing combat now at higher altitudes recently, the cries of "yak3 is undermodeled" will start when they get owned at high altitudes by "lesser planes".
I still think the beaufighter or pe2 should be the next plane introduced.
Ah, you're assuming that HTC will add X plane based on a vote? Just remember that they get to pick the candidates. :aok
I've not ever dogged the me410 for being added. It does certainly offer something AH did not have until it was added: 50mm butt hurt for bombers. The 6/20mm option is fun as well. Also, it is not to be taken lightly as a gv buster, either. It does well in the climb with the bombs or the 50mm.
Regardless, if and when HTC allows for another vote I'll take the odds that the Meteor Mk III will win. The A26 is too similar to the A20, and it is not as well known, imo. The Yak-3 would be not too far behind it. If and when the SB-2, Tu-2, or Pe-2 are added it will be on HTC's whim, not a vote. None of those three are "flash-bangy" enough for the gamers. ;)
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SmokinLoon,
If the A-26 is on the ballot it will utterly annihilate everything else. HTC, I would guess with malice aforethought, didn't put any American aircraft on the last vote because of how dominating they had been on the past votes. The only reason the Me410 made it to the final vote against the B-29 is because of how many votes votes the B-29 sucked off of the A-26 in the semi-finals. Up to the semi-finals the A-26 had been in second.
As to the Meteor, remember it barely edged the Beaufighter and was solidly beaten by both the Yak-3 and Me410. That might change if a new vote were held now, but in the one example we have it didn't do that well.
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Apparently putting an American plane in a vote would be like adding a German vehicle to one... :D
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isn't it about time we let France in?
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Because they will eat all of the good cheese, and then surrender.
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Apparently putting an American plane in a vote would be like adding a German vehicle to one... :D
it's just a popularity contest
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It was because of the hanging chads! :noid
People really meant to vote for the Boomerang, so it should be added with all possible dispatch.
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I get the feeling we won't be getting much new US stuff for a while. HTC seems to realize they will have to force good sense in us.
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We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...
...and some pilots have already become amazing in that thing. A plane is not a failure or hanger queen if it is flown only single digit percentages compared to the others. In the game of chess, the most used units are called "pawns" I hear. Flying the right plane at the right time can be decisive for base taking or other flying objectives.
+1 on more planes too!!!
EDIT: I think it is not always bad if a plane is a "hanger queen" given the above context. I mean, in WWII the atomic bomb could have been considered a "hanger queen" because it was only used twice. ;)
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Apparently putting an American plane in a vote would be like adding a German vehicle to one... :D
I doubt there is a German vehicle left to add that would win against an American vehicle.
Its perfectly understandable. Most of the players are Americans and are more likely to know what a listed American unit actually is whereas they may have no idea what a Tu-2 or Meteor or J2M is.
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I doubt there is a German vehicle left to add that would win against an American vehicle.
I think the Jagdtiger might have a good chance. You know, massive gun and armor, the stuff which commonly gets attributed with "awesome" and "epic" by a sizeable part of the AH community... ;)
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I think the Jagdtiger might have a good chance. You know, massive gun and armor, the stuff which commonly gets attributed with "awesome" and "epic" by a sizeable part of the AH community... ;)
Yeah, and it does have "Tiger" in it so they will probably guess it is potent even if they don't know what it is. I suspect that would be true for the more obscure American units too, "I don't know what a P-61 is but 61 is bigger than 51 and it has a P on it so it is probably a better fighter."
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I voted for the 410, so that I could actually shoot down buffs.
With the 410, I can actually shoot down buffs.
I r teh happeh.
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No I didn't.
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If we had gotten the Yak3 it would have become a furballer's dream and a few posts before quieting down to the K4 dweebs thumbing their noses at the Yak3 dweebs. The Me410 for all of the kvetching over it has generated ongoing posts and commentary. One of those love to hate and love to defend kind of rides. It has become it's versatile self with all of the weaknesses and strengths supported by a spirited following.
What did you expect??
It had big guns. Looked cool. And until it was released, most players refused to believe it had the maneuverability of a fat golden retriever. But, with patience, if used to it's mission role, is quite an effective bomber destroyer. Don't you think much of the vote at that time was for a base attacking griefermobile, tank killer, and on occasion secret fighter slaughterer?
And the Yak3? Most players cannot fly the Yak9u very effectively. So another tiny fighter with the same limitations and demands as the Yak9u? It doesn't matter if it's one of the most maneuverable planes in the game with mad speed on the deck. It doesn't have enough ammo for the spray by brail average spit and pony driver.
It would be interesting to see if Lusche can pull an over all stat on how many rounds fired to gain a single kill happens from most players. Statistics tend to illuminate human idiosyncratic choices in games. Speed, ammo load, maneuverability, perceived transference of power and survivability.
Uhhgh!!! Go Fast!! Big Boom!! Can runaway fast and laugh at you!!
This is probably more salient to the mind frame when the Me410 vote took place beyond the small number who actually understood what they were really voting for. Just call the Me410 "Barack's Ride", and enjoy the buyers remorse.
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It would be interesting to see if Lusche can pull an over all stat on how many rounds fired to gain a single kill happens from most players.
No, he can't. All he (and all of us) can see is the fighter hit% per player per tour. Only HTC knows how many rounds have been actually fired.
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8th AAF estimated 13,000 50cal from bombers fired to every killed fighter.
We may fire less because on average we spend more time in shooting combat per hour flown along with unlimited lives.
Wonder if Hitech can include a stat for round and type hits per aircraft in our killed and assist columns?
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Wonder if Hitech can include a stat for round and type hits per aircraft in our killed and assist columns?
Should be not much of a problem technically, but I know from experience they are very reluctant in changing anything stats & score related.
When the web stats presentation was changed a few years ago, we had number of sorties per plane dispalyed for a very short time. It was quickly taken away again, despite all my begging :cry
Not even the damage point bug was corrected, as "it had always been that way". :bhead
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most players refused to believe it had the maneuverability of a fat golden retriever.
With die'beetus.
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Maybe Hitech wants to be bribed with Cragganmore instead of schnapps.
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Maybe Hitech wants to be bribed with Cragganmore instead of schnapps.
(http://www.investireoggi.it/forum/attachments/life-good-cafe/132297d1317158909-thread-ufficiale-delle-animated-gifs-trovate-nel-web-o-autoprodotte-james-van-der-memes_rolleyes.gif)
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(http://www.investireoggi.it/forum/attachments/life-good-cafe/132297d1317158909-thread-ufficiale-delle-animated-gifs-trovate-nel-web-o-autoprodotte-james-van-der-memes_rolleyes.gif)
(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll21/iTraceh/Gif/tumblrl5y911gcty1qbxk3f.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/iTraceh/media/Gif/tumblrl5y911gcty1qbxk3f.gif.html)
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(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak3_1.jpg)
Hmmm....
(http://normandieniemen.free.fr/xzps74k49k0136hi8.jpg)
Hmmm...
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak3_5.jpg)
This has got to either be the most sadistic joke ever played by HT...or...some seriously sweet serendipitous WOOT factor!!! :rock :rock :rock
Thank you gentlemen for all your work bringing this beautiful bird to life in our virtual skies.
:salute
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Best wishlist fulfillment timing ever! Unfortunately, I think this sets a new standard in customer service. :D
(Heck, the pilot even looks like me. :aok I think that wraps up this wishlist nicely...)
Thanks again!!
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(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak3_1.jpg)
Hmmm....
(http://normandieniemen.free.fr/xzps74k49k0136hi8.jpg)
Hmmm...
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak3_5.jpg)
This has got to either be the most sadistic joke ever played by HT...or...some seriously sweet serendipitous WOOT factor!!! :rock :rock :rock
Thank you gentlemen for all your work bringing this beautiful bird to life in our virtual skies.
:salute
Look at the air intakes on the wings. The RL version's look larger and are tapered differently than the AH version. :noid
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Look at the air intakes on the wings. The RL version's look larger and are tapered differently than the AH version. :noid
True, but the real Yak pictured does not have the original engine type. Those intakes may have needed modification to facilitate installation of the donor engine.
Edit:
Looks more correct when compared to the real thing.
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/yak3/yak3vk107/yak3vk107f7r.jpg)
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^^^^
What I voted for. :banana:
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Lets hope they put the manual cocker between the pilots feet where it should be.
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4905081296390389&pid=1.7)
(http://www.yakuk.com/img/Yak-3panel.JPG)
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1411/24036874vd1.jpg)
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w207/andrew-89/CAPTAINYAK38.jpg)
Early Yak with manual cocker between rudder peddles.
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/814670974a.jpg)
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak3_6.jpg)
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Bustr do you want the shell ejection tube also............... and should the sound file be augmented to hear the shell casing rattling down it?
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Bustr do you want the shell ejection tube also............... and should the sound file be augmented to hear the shell casing rattling down it?
Of course!!!
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If they are going to the trouble to get the gunsight correct along with the plumbing in the cockpit which the competitors does in spades. They better get the cocking levers and pulls correct. I will bet the competitor got it correct.
I will bet the competitor made the same mistake on the gunsights in the C.202 and 205.
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...Something about a mouse...and cookies...and giving cookies...and milk...
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...Something about a mouse...and cookies...and giving cookies...and milk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OwMoAsP38
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OwMoAsP38
:confused:
:huh
That uh...isn't uh..what I meant really :uhoh
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...Something about a mouse...and cookies...and giving cookies...and milk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKzriYtEt8
Apt, yes, but you gotta admit that reference was a little obscure...perhaps even random at face value...like milking cats.
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isn't it about time we let France in?
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/170/d/d/Dewoitine_d520_by_QuentinR.jpg)
yes the time is now
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yes the time is now
Don't you mean "oui!"?
Let's face it, the Yak-3 will probably be more fun than the De.520 in the MA and it's in French colors...