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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Pawz on July 04, 2013, 04:28:56 PM
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Well old rig is down for the count and I'm looking to buy one that will last and has all the bells and whistles.
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how much you want to spend?
semp
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If you buy one for $1200 you could build the same one for around $900.
So if you have money to throw at one and don't want to be bothered researching, ordering, and assembling one just buy one.
If money is more of an issue, building one that cost you $1200 will be far superior to one that you would buy for the same $1200.
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If you get one built, go to Digital Storm and call it a day. If you build it, you will save on average.....about 300-400 like Fugi said.
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when you build your own you will get better components.
semp
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I'd buy this:
Dell Inspiron 660 is $530 (i5-3330, includes OS, 500 GB HD, 4 GB RAM, DVD+/-RW, 100/1000 Ethernet, sound, keyboard, mouse)
Thermaltake 500W ATX12V power supply is $50 (from Newegg)
Nvidia GTX 650 Ti (rated best for price range by Tom's Hardware) is $130 (from Newegg)
total = $710
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I'd buy this:
Dell Inspiron 660 is $530 (i5-3330, includes OS, 500 GB HD, 4 GB RAM, DVD+/-RW, 100/1000 Ethernet, sound, keyboard, mouse)
Thermaltake 500W ATX12V power supply is $50 (from Newegg)
Nvidia GTX 650 Ti (rated best for price range by Tom's Hardware) is $130 (from Newegg)
total = $710
brooks it really sound like a great puter but it is a dead end, you cannot really upgrade it.
semp
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brooks it really sound like a great puter but it is a dead end, you cannot really upgrade it.
semp
What I do is spend $500-$600 every 4 years or so.
For example, I am currently running a Dell system that is a couple of years older than the one above, but with game settings maxed out, it still gives me 60 fps everywhere, including in thick clouds. So, I estimate I've got another couple of years to go before I will need another.
To me, this seems like a very cost-effective way to go, and it is very easy.
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I'd actually like to build one from 1k - 2k. So what do I buy first this is going to be fun.
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I'd actually like to build one from 1k - 2k. So what do I buy first this is going to be fun.
Tiger Direct sells barebones kits. What you need to get started will be included. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=31&name=Barebone-Kits
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To go 1 step further on uptowns idea:
This one is a nice start....
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8237496&CatId=333 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8237496&CatId=333)
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What I do is spend $500-$600 every 4 years or so.
For example, I am currently running a Dell system that is a couple of years older than the one above, but with game settings maxed out, it still gives me 60 fps everywhere, including in thick clouds. So, I estimate I've got another couple of years to go before I will need another.
To me, this seems like a very cost-effective way to go, and it is very easy.
but if you build your own, you will have the option to upgrade to "top of the line" for about what you pay for another. last upgrade cost me 300 bucks and went from an e8400 to a 2500k after selling my old parts. I dont think you can get "everything" maxed out with a 600 dollar computer. for one thing the video card will be very low end if it even has one at all.
however the most important thing is if you are happy with what you have, if you are then it's money well spent :aok.
semp
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Absolutely build it yourself. It's beyond easy really. If this dumb bellybutton wrench turner can figure it out anyone can. Do some homework beforehand. Know your budget and as the others have said, hit sites like Newegg and Tiger Direct for your parts. You might find better prices but those are generally about as good as you'll get.
There can be some problems with compatibility between some hardware items but I've found that computer hardware is probably the closest thing to actually being standardized than anything else I've ever had to deal with. Again--do your homework. Especially before you buy stuff and just start plugging it in. Start with the mobo/cpu combo. Move on to memory--this is where you have to make sure it's compatible with the mobo. Some memory just won't work with some motherboards--check and find out. Move on to video. This is most important for gaming. Buy the best card you can afford in order to stay at least on the curve. Next is power supply. Use a calculator (most manufacturers have them on their sites) to make sure you're supplying the proper wattage to all that hardware. Going a little bit higher on PSU can't hurt especially if you're thinking of expansion later. Under sizing is right out. Don't go cheap here. You'll be sorry.
Oh and definitely use some sort of aftermarket CPU cooler that's compatible with whatever CPU socket you're buying. The stock cooler that comes with the CPU is junk and you can do much, much better for just a few bucks more. A cheap one that does a good job is the coolermaster hyper 212. Just make sure whatever cooler you buy will fit in your case and also clear your memory. Read all your specs.
If you have everything you can literally put the whole thing together in an afternoon and be loading software.
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drano is right about how easy it is to build a computer, all you have to know is how to use a screw driver. and make sure you install the little washer on the screws as this is the most common mistake. second one that i have seen and done it myself is forgetting to plug in the power cord to the wall and spending an hour figuring out why your computer doesnt turn on.
what i have found easier is first make sure the computer works then worry about cable management later. if you are like me you will take that computer apart at least once a week for the first 6 months trying to tidy up the cables. after that it's only twice a month :D. then after that every 6 months or so you will get the case and repaint it to match the seasons. why you ask? mostly because you can :D.
semp
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:banana: cool thanks guys I will start my journey today.
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but if you build your own, you will have the option to upgrade to "top of the line" for about what you pay for another. last upgrade cost me 300 bucks and went from an e8400 to a 2500k after selling my old parts. I dont think you can get "everything" maxed out with a 600 dollar computer. for one thing the video card will be very low end if it even has one at all.
however the most important thing is if you are happy with what you have, if you are then it's money well spent :aok.
semp
All I care about, though, is maintaining 60 fps with everything maxed out and a highly reliable, trouble-free computer. Any more performance than that for me is unnecessary. This way, I can maintain that level of performance for a low price and very little effort.
You are right about $600. I should say $700, not $600. $125-$150 of that amount is for the graphics card. That setup is for sure up to the task of 60 fps with things maxed out. That's what I do currently, and it's not even a new $700 system (was a $700 system a couple of years ago). The $700 Dell-based system today has an i5-3330 to which you add a GeForce GTX 650 Ti ($530 for the Dell, $130 for the 650 Ti).
I'm not factoring in any reselling in that price range. If anything sellable of the old system, then the price of this way is $700 - resale. (Or, in my case, I give my previous system to relatives or use it to replace the computer in the TV room.)
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How does this look?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8024820&sku=B69-1618
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The kit itself is good, but 900$ is a bit much considering there is no PSU and VGA.
I would look for those items one by one on the newegg (for example) and see what do they cost there :aok
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147053 Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower Computer Case $130.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293 ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $134
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231485 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9S-8GBXL $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148912 Seagate SV35 Series ST1000VX000 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125418 GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit $250
Total: $1,130
This is my saved wish list on Newegg that I update every once in a while. You could drop it down to $900 if you want a cheaper GPU, Motherboard, Case, and possibly go for a cheaper HDD.
Copy and paste from a thread in the Hardware section by me a few weeks ago. With this set up, you run pretty much every game out there on high/max for the next 2 years. If you do a little digging, you can drop the price down by $100 probably with sales and used parts.
A few months ago. Some people said there's a better case out there. I didn't update my wish list on Newegg yet so if some one wants to recommend him a better case, go ahead.
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The kit itself is good, but 900$ is a bit much considering there is no PSU and VGA.
I would look for those items one by one on the newegg (for example) and see what do they cost there :aok
Thats a very high end motherboard, RAM, and hard drive. Many of the high barebones kits don't come with VGA. Though I agree that kit is kind of bloated, it comes with a blu ray drive, which unless your using PC to watch blu rays is really unnecessary and expensive, a 30 dollar DVD rom is all you need. I like this kit better.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7917140&SRCCODE=WEBGOOPA&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCV1-CjCE&gclid=CN_PpvX5m7gCFQSCQgoduD8ADw
it comes with the same cpu/mobo combo, same case, a PSU and a liquid cooler. Which will come in handy when you want to over clock that i5k. The only reason to pay extra for the K is to have the ability to overclock it. You'll still have to buy your ram and VGA separately. I think 16 gb of ram is a bit of an overkill, you would be fine with 8gb and putting the rest of the money into the VGA card. Cause with that CPU, to get the most out of it your going to want to pair it with a 250$ + VGA card. So unless your budget is a 1000$ + than you may want to look at some AMD chips.
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A few months ago. Some people said there's a better case out there. I didn't update my wish list on Newegg yet so if some one wants to recommend him a better case, go ahead.
I can think of 20+ cases that would be a better qualitty product than Rosewill. Also, how many drives would be going into it? 7 or less? A Mid-Tower could handle and keep just as cool.
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How does this look?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8024820&sku=B69-1618
You got a microcenter near you?The 3570k is $189 there..
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Thats a very high end motherboard, RAM, and hard drive. Many of the high barebones kits don't come with VGA. Though I agree that kit is kind of bloated, it comes with a blu ray drive, which unless your using PC to watch blu rays is really unnecessary and expensive, a 30 dollar DVD rom is all you need. I like this kit better.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7917140&SRCCODE=WEBGOOPA&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCV1-CjCE&gclid=CN_PpvX5m7gCFQSCQgoduD8ADw
it comes with the same cpu/mobo combo, same case, a PSU and a liquid cooler. Which will come in handy when you want to over clock that i5k. The only reason to pay extra for the K is to have the ability to overclock it. You'll still have to buy your ram and VGA separately. I think 16 gb of ram is a bit of an overkill, you would be fine with 8gb and putting the rest of the money into the VGA card. Cause with that CPU, to get the most out of it your going to want to pair it with a 250$ + VGA card. So unless your budget is a 1000$ + than you may want to look at some AMD chips.
You have a point.
My question is, what do you wantto do with that computer? Playing AH, some other games too, or do some rendering? Maybe something entirely different?
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You have a point.
My question is, what do you wantto do with that computer? Playing AH, some other games too, or do some rendering? Maybe something entirely different?
Just AH
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Just AH
Then here is my opinion (experts, correct me if im wrong, please):
Build it yourself and save a load of money.
That I5 3570K is a great CPU, enough for anything. But do you really need that TUF Sabertooth board? Thats a very good one, but select what do you need and what you dont.
I would buy a mATX board with only one PCI-E slot as one top end VGA can handle this game easily with all the eye candy, in full-HD. 8GB RAM is enough for anything but serious rendering, i dont see the point in buying more for AH. For one VGA, a 550-600W quality PSU is enough, even if you decide to OC it - but you wont have to. Also, i wouldnt recommend the water cooling; its some cool stuff, but a decent, 50$ cooler can handle any CPU, under any circumstances. I have a 40$ Cooler Master Hyper212 for my old 95W PhenomII, it never goes above 65 celsius, not even when OC-ed like crazy in the summer, and does its job in complete silence.
As for the VGA, a GTX660ti/760 or a HD-7870 can run this game just fine, and will be able to do this for a good couple years.
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For example, I am currently running a Dell system that is a couple of years older than the one above, but with game settings maxed out, it still gives me 60 fps everywhere, including in thick clouds
When you say everything maxed, do you mean exactly that, as in 2048 textures, AA cranked, every option turned on, and most importantly shadows at max settings, and environmental reflection slider at the maximum? If so, you sir have the super computer of all 2 year old Dells, as I couldn't maintain 60 fps with lots of cons in smoke and clouds with a o/c 3930k and 2 4 meg 680's overclocked in SLI. Even with a single o/c 780 at Titan levels of performance I still can't if the environmental slider is at max. If I back the slider down 2 notches, 144 fps on my 144hz monitor stays pegged no matter what, but as soon as that slider is moved to max, AH2 still owns the fastest systems out there for the most part in terms of keeping maximum FPS going all the time.
I don't doubt you have everything else cranked up BUT the environmental, as I did as you do for about 3 cycles of new PC's, buying a mid level factory HP or Dell and adding a decent vid card, and that served me well enough, until I had the $$ to start building whatever whenever, which I what I'm doing now. I will say you're probably correct IMO as well, that your and my old way of doing it is probably the most cost effective and simplest way of keeping up, and having a system that fights above its weight. You also get the benefit of having new home theater PC's kicking around when you upgrade, as I have 2 i7 boxes doing exactly that from being cast aways after getting new systems.
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Then here is my opinion (experts, correct me if im wrong, please):
Build it yourself and save a load of money.
That I5 3570K is a great CPU, enough for anything. But do you really need that TUF Sabertooth board? Thats a very good one, but select what do you need and what you dont.
I would buy a mATX board with only one PCI-E slot as one top end VGA can handle this game easily with all the eye candy, in full-HD. 8GB RAM is enough for anything but serious rendering, i dont see the point in buying more for AH. For one VGA, a 550-600W quality PSU is enough, even if you decide to OC it - but you wont have to. Also, i wouldnt recommend the water cooling; its some cool stuff, but a decent, 50$ cooler can handle any CPU, under any circumstances. I have a 40$ Cooler Master Hyper212 for my old 95W PhenomII, it never goes above 65 celsius, not even when OC-ed like crazy in the summer, and does its job in complete silence.
As for the VGA, a GTX660ti/760 or a HD-7870 can run this game just fine, and will be able to do this for a good couple years.
I wouldnt get a micro mobo. you never know if in the future you plan to add another vc and the 20 or 30 bucks difference is not worth it. also some micro mobo's may have problems with as many usb devices as we use in aces high. even if you use a self powered usb you may not have enough.
also I wouldnt get any less than 600 watts ps. a 550 or 600w ps doesnt mean you will get the max of 550 or 600. water cooling just looks cool but not really needed, then again if it was me, i would just get it for the same reason that I would get case with a window. just to show off :).
semp
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When you say everything maxed, do you mean exactly that, as in 2048 textures, AA cranked, every option turned on, and most importantly shadows at max settings, and environmental reflection slider at the maximum?
I don't doubt you have everything else cranked up BUT the environmental
You are completely correct. I haven't been flying with environment mapping slider turned on. If I do all of what you say, I get 35-40 fps. If I turn the "Environment map" slider down from "Full Updates" to within 1-2 notches of "None", I am back to 60.
This is with me forcing maximum AA for my card (which is 32x CSAA). I find that AA is one of the important settings to make things look more realistic.
I will say you're probably correct IMO as well, that your and my old way of doing it is probably the most cost effective and simplest way of keeping up, and having a system that fights above its weight. You also get the benefit of having new home theater PC's kicking around when you upgrade, as I have 2 i7 boxes doing exactly that from being cast aways after getting new systems.
I think it's typically the best way to go for people saying things like "I don't know a lot about computers -- what should I get?"
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Well old rig is down for the count and I'm looking to buy one that will last and has all the bells and whistles.
Build one unless you got a pocket full of money . You would get all the help you need here and maybe some part's too . What I did thanks to Changeup ..
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Ok sorry if I'm bothering you gents. I'm going to go one item at a time first my case after searching on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
Any thought if this is ok then I will move on to next item. Bare with me I'm not tech savvy by no means.
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It definitely is a good case in a decent price range. You can get a good one for less, like the Antec 300 for $59, as well there are more expensive ones. The basics for a decent case are good breathing (all those fans and mesh), sturdy construction and easy installing of the components.
Before you buy, though, I'd recommend you to think about what size of a GPU you're going to buy. Most of them will fit almost any case, but the almost one ft long monsters won't. The price of the case doesn't guarantee that the biggest cards will fit in.
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I have a cooler master CM692 advanced case and love it. Great case for the money with lots of room, features and airflow.
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Ok sorry if I'm bothering you gents. I'm going to go one item at a time first my case after searching on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
Any thought if this is ok then I will move on to next item. Bare with me I'm not tech savvy by no means.
the antec 900 is a decent case, but you can get better internal layout with either the coolermaster haf-912 for $60 or the haf-922 for $100.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197)
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I have the HAF-912. plenty of room to work on it. I added another fan on the top to blow the warm air out. Stays nice and cool.
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I don't know about saving money but building one is just plain fun. It's like Lego's only you get to turn it on when you're done.
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Ok guys this is what I have ready to buy what do you think and what else do I need.
1 COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Black Interior and Four Blue LED Fans-1x 140mm rear 1x 200mm top 1x 200mm side and 1x 230mm front
COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Black Interior and Four ...
Model #:RC-942-KKN3
Item #:N82E16811119239
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
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$219.99 -$10.00 Instant $209.99
1 ASUS Z87M-PLUS LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 uATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS Z87M-PLUS LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 uATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:Z87M-PLUS
Item #:N82E16813131984
Return Policy:Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
$139.99 $139.99
1 EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2765-KR GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support w/ EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card
EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2765-KR GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support w/ EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card
Model #:02G-P4-2765-KR
Item #:N82E16814130932
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$259.99 $259.99
1 CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CP-9020048-NA
Item #:N82E16817139028
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$79.99 -$10.00 Instant $69.99
1 Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Model #:BX80637I53570K
Item #:N82E16819116504
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock
$219.99 $219.99
1 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609DS1S00
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609DS1S00
Model #:BLS8G3D1609DS1S00
Item #:N82E16820148540
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$69.99 $69.99
1 ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Model #:DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Item #:N82E16827135204
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
$19.99 $19.99
Subtotal: $989.93. :cheers:
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What about a HD, operating system, and CPU heatsink?
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if it was me I would get a cheaper case and spend more on the video card. fan controllers are about 30 bucks.
semp
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Yeah that case is a sexy beast but I went with a step below and saved some bucks. The CM-690 series is nice. I have the 692 Advanced like this here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119259 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119259) and love it. You can get that one for about $89 usually. They're about to come out with or have come out with the 693.
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if it was me I would get a cheaper case and spend more on the video card. fan controllers are about 30 bucks.
semp
I agree with Semp .
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I agree with Semp .
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the video card he bought isn't a bad card, considering the gtx770 is priced at $400, without dropping down to a $50 case, his only other choice is a gtx760 4gb for $320.
the gtx760 is comparable to the radeon 7950 performance wise...and for the price, that's pretty dam good.
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Oops, should read the entire post before +1'ing instead of combining two answers. Nevertheless, spending $209 for a case instead of getting a good one for way below $100 would give me over a hundred reasons to find the cheaper alternative and use the money for an OS and a HDD. I've been lately in the belief that Intel stock coolers are both silent and effective enough in a breathing case unless you're into overclocking.
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Whats wrong with your old case? Why not just use that?
Dont know what case is in your old system but if its compatible and suited you well for your old system then why not just keep using that?.
Sure it might not look as fancy shmancy as a brandy new purty case. But playing AH how much time do you really spend admiring your case?
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It's already been a month since Pawz said he'd start building, so the build should already be finished unless there's been something like summer in between. Eagerly waiting for the results...
Whats wrong with your old case? Why not just use that?
Dont know what case is in your old system but if its compatible and suited you well for your old system then why not just keep using that?.
Sure it might not look as fancy shmancy as a brandy new purty case. But playing AH how much time do you really spend admiring your case?
Indeed we don't know what the old case was like. As for you, dediock, I suppose you know what to look at when choosing a case. For those who'd like to save some by using an old case but don't know the basics, here's some food for thought: Cases have been using the same standard layout for decades. That means, almost any new motherboard would drop into almost any ATX case, as long as you aren't trying to fit a full size mobo into a minitower. Same goes for power supplies, optical drives, hard disks... Old office quality cases were also made of thick sturdy steel unlike many fancy illuminated tinfoil and plastic cases of today. So what's the problem, you might ask. The problem is, that the old cases don't breathe. The 80mm full metal grille with shower-like holes in the front was sufficient for intake air and the PSU took care of blowing hot air out. In the rear there might have been a 60mm diameter bunch of tiny holes for an extra fan.
But if you're handy, an old case can be a great base for modding a one-of-a-kind eyecatcher. Drill, saw and file, paint if you feel like that... Way back when I made an air duct for the processor out of a milk carton. It made the CPU run about 10 degrees cooler! In a later mod I attached a kitchen strainer as a bulge on the case side over the CPU air tube to prevent loose papers being sucked to cover the hole. I still have some plastic plumbing pipe joints around somewhere...
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It's already been a month since Pawz said he'd start building, so the build should already be finished unless there's been something like summer in between. Eagerly waiting for the results...
Same here! Every time I see the post pop up again I hop in hoping to see some specs and test runs :x
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Hiya Pawz,
If you're still in the decision making process, I built a desktop a few years back (yup, it's pretty easy) using the Antec 900. Nice case but the internal space allowance is pretty tight given the size of today's vid cards.
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It's already been a month since Pawz said he'd start building, so the build should already be finished unless there's been something like summer in between. Eagerly waiting for the results...
Huh? He just posted his parts list on July 24. Where I grew up a month was 30 or 31 days (sometimes 28). It hasn't even been two weeks.
I realize time flys but not that fast.
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Huh? He just posted his parts list on July 24. Where I grew up a month was 30 or 31 days (sometimes 28). It hasn't even been two weeks.
I realize time flys but not that fast.
If you have the 'build fever' two weeks is more like a year! I know from experience! :D
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Be a happier man, buy an good 256gb SSD,with OS and often used programs on it, you won't regret it.
Its the biggest PC change in last 5 years.
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Been AFK so what did you decide or do PAWZ ?
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why does Pawz need a new computer? i have a hard enough time fighting you when you had your old crappy rig :bhead lol good luck with the new build bud :cheers:
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Update just got my new digital storm computer in :rock Downloading AH release the G wagon :airplane:
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RA-ROH :x
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:aok :aok
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If you get one built, go to Digital Storm and call it a day. If you build it, you will save on average.....about 300-400 like Fugi said.
+2. I'd never buy a gamer from anyone else.
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Thanks Masherbrum I did my research and Im loving my new system. Now I have to wait until monday I must have upset Skuzzy he cancelled my account or I just dont remember my code after 10+ years. I don't know how long that water has looked the way it does but its my first time seeing it all nice and shiny.
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Thanks Masherbrum I did my research and Im loving my new system. Now I have to wait until monday I must have upset Skuzzy he cancelled my account or I just dont remember my code after 10+ years. I don't know how long that water has looked the way it does but its my first time seeing it all nice and shiny.
You're welcome my friend. I know a few who have gone through them and were more than happy with the cost.
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Thanks Masherbrum I did my research and Im loving my new system. Now I have to wait until monday I must have upset Skuzzy he cancelled my account or I just dont remember my code after 10+ years. I don't know how long that water has looked the way it does but its my first time seeing it all nice and shiny.
So are you going to post the specs on that beast you got so we can all "oooooowwww" and "ahhhhhhh" :devil
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So are you going to post the specs on that beast you got so we can all "oooooowwww" and "ahhhhhhh" :devil
I am waiting on parts myself, as I am building a new PC.
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What is it.
I am almost done with my build.
I5-3570k
mobo
750 watt coarsair psu
evg 660 2G oc
32 G of Ram
1 TB HDD
I believe a Beats sound card for 775 with operating system
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i7 4770K
Gigabyte Z87-U4DH or P mb
EVGA 770 GTX Classified 4gb
16gb Corsair 1866
Corsair Hx750 psu
Corsair H80 cpu cooler
Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 case with extra factory 140mm fans
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If possible Always build your PC. I built the PC in my comment's for around 2600$, If I bought it it would of cost me around 6-8k$ depending on who I bought it from. You also can tell the quality of the component's by what goes on sale, the most expensive/ best components never do.
ElDiablo
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Update just got my new digital storm computer in :rock Downloading AH release the G wagon :airplane:
Which one did you get? Work good?
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I bought a $700 system two years ago ($500 Dell Vostro 460 with i5-2400 processor, and a $130 GTX 550 Ti graphics card), and it today runs AH at 60 fps with most things maxed (not the "environment map" slider maxed, but everything else maxed), and I run with max antialiasing forced on as well.
If I were buying a system today, I'd go for another $700 system ($500 Dell Inspiron 660 with i5-3340 processor, and a $140 GTX 660 Ti Boost, $50 600W power supply to replace the 300W one in the Dell) and suspect it would be a 60 fps system for another 2-3 years.
I don't think there's anything wrong with building one's own system, but it isn't the best way for every person, and I think that buying a $700 system every few years is a very cost-effective, low-fuss way to stay at 60 fps in AH.
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What is it.
I am almost done with my build.
I5-3570k
mobo
750 watt coarsair psu
evg 660 2G oc
32 G of Ram
1 TB HDD
I believe a Beats sound card for 775 with operating system
damn..i gots the same.. :aok
what mobo ya got...i roll ASUS Z77 :rock
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NVIDIA GTX 770 2GB
Intel Core i5 4670K CPU
8GB 1600MHz Memory
Corsair H60 Liquid Cooling
120GB Corsair Neutron GTX SSD
1TB 7200RPM HDD
ASUS Z87 Chipset Motherboard
600W Corsair CX Power Supply
Microsoft Windows 7
:banana:
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NVIDIA GTX 770 2GB
Intel Core i5 4670K CPU
8GB 1600MHz Memory
Corsair H60 Liquid Cooling
120GB Corsair Neutron GTX SSD
1TB 7200RPM HDD
ASUS Z87 Chipset Motherboard
600W Corsair CX Power Supply
Microsoft Windows 7
:banana:
nice
i only got the 760 card :(
but m goin for 16g of mem, and a 750 PSU.
what brand is your HDD?
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nice
i only got the 760 card :(
but m goin for 16g of mem, and a 750 PSU.
what brand is your HDD?
Seagate
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You also don't have to actually "build" it yourself if you aren't so inclined, many custom gaming PC shops will assemble it for you for free or a small charge. I've been dealing with a local company in Calgary since I moved there in 94, and bought my first P200 from them, Memory Express. The last couple of systems I built I didn't bother actually doing it myself, as for 50$ they put everything together, installed the OS, and updated all the drivers to current versions for all the hardware. Then they let it sit for a day or two to ensure nothing just zaps, and then they let you pick it up. I'm sure most places will do this for you as well. It's not that I don't like putting my own stuff together, or that it's difficult, it's just a safety margin for me so that if a: I break anything or b: something is defective from the factory, I don't have to worry about it. 50$ for the time it takes to assemble, install the OS, and find and d/l all the drivers for every bit of HW is well worth it IMO.
This way I have the best of both worlds, I don't have to buy an off the shelf POS, nor do I have to pay 2 or 3 thousand for a box full of parts, instead I get a fully functioning and up to date system that is basically plug and play other than my headset, USB controllers, etc.