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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 06, 2001, 10:03:00 PM
This is from a list of about 400 pilots that I compiled going through top 100 fighter pilots, top 100 attack pilots and top 20 fighter squads.

If you notice I have left you off of the list, please e-mail me and I will add you.  All of this has to be done individually... and yes that means I made 400 trips to the AH stats page.

A6M5b (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/A6M5bTour13.gif)
Bf 109F-4 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Bf109F-4Tour13.gif)
Bf 109G-10 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Bf109G-10Tour13.gif)
Bf 109G-2 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Bf109G-2Tour13.gif)
Bf 109G-6 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Bf109G-6Tour13.gif)
C.202 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/C202Tour13.gif)
C.205 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/C205Tour13.gif)
F4u-1C (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/F4u-1CTour13.gif)
F4u-1D (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/F4u-1DTour13.gif)
F6F-5 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/F6F-5Tour13.gif)
Fw 190A-5 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Fw190A-5Tour13.gif)
Fw 190A-8 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Fw190A-8Tour13.gif)
AKs own the La-5FN (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/La-5FNTour13.gif)
N1K2 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/N1K2Tour13.gif)
P-38L (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-38LTour13.gif)
P-47-D25 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-47-D25Tour13.gif)
P-47-D30 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-47-D30Tour13.gif)
P-51D (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-51DTour13.gif)
Seafire (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/SeaFireTour13.gif)
Spitfire Mk IX (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/SpitIXTour13.gif)
Spit V (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/SpitVTour13.gif)
Typhoon IB (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/TyphoonIBTour13.gif)
Yak-9U (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Yak-9UTour13.gif)



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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: fscott on March 06, 2001, 10:10:00 PM
Very nice DejaVu. It would be nice if the stats page had this built in already.  

What do you mean I'm not part of the list? I am just behind Yeager on the P51D.


fscott

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 06, 2001, 10:13:00 PM
 
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If you notice I have left you off of the list, please e-mail me and I will add you

That is directed at the community in general fscott.. not you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on March 06, 2001, 10:25:00 PM
DejaVu always amazes me. Geez where do you find the time and the courage to compute all those stats?

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Yeager on March 06, 2001, 10:33:00 PM
GOD ALMIGHTY!

Perk that damned Chog already fer chrysakes!

LOL  WTG Nash  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Yeager
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Thunder on March 06, 2001, 11:26:00 PM
Interesting STATS on the P-51D

 (http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/P-51DTour13.gif)

 (http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/P-51DTour13a.gif)

SEVEN of the top ten are in the 13th TAS!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Thunder
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on March 06, 2001, 11:49:00 PM
 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-47-D25Tour13.gif)

Ohhhhh who's yo' daddy??? 7.25 kill death ratio in a jug!!

Sorry, but I just feel goooooodddddd.
-SW
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 06, 2001, 11:51:00 PM
 
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Ohhhhh who's yo' daddy??? 7.25 kill death ratio in a jug!!

Quite Wulfie or I'll tell everyone about the half ammo option (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on March 06, 2001, 11:56:00 PM
Hehe... I loaded the half ammo for maybe 4 sorties. It had very little effect. Didn't have the light load those 4 times I fought Frenchy... :-)
-SW
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Mitsu on March 07, 2001, 12:41:00 AM
DejaVu - Very nice Graph.

Thanks. S!

-Mitsu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Vulcan on March 07, 2001, 01:10:00 AM
Holy sheet Deja... how long did that take?

Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: bloom25 on March 07, 2001, 01:16:00 AM
F4u-1d for me.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  43 kills to 18 deaths.  (Most of those probably to ostwinds.)



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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Spatula on March 07, 2001, 01:27:00 AM
The top 10 that get more than 10 targets a night to shoot. Hmmm, how to get 280 odd kills when theres only 20 odd people online when i play   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) Ah sod it, who cares.

Are the names picked from the 'fighter' ranks stats page?

82 Kills to 6 Deaths in P51-D is all i can muster.


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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: gatt on March 07, 2001, 01:40:00 AM
Hahahah, now we know who is using dweeb-cars all the time ...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Nice stats BTW, we should get them directly from the main stat page. HTC?
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Jochen on March 07, 2001, 03:16:00 AM
Yep, Would be nice if we could find this info directly from HTC score pages!

I'm on the list too!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A[/b, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: GRUNHERZ on March 07, 2001, 03:42:00 AM
Plz add me to the G10 list I got 200 kills vs 77 deaths.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

thanks GRUNHERZ
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: tshred on March 07, 2001, 06:37:00 AM
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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on March 07, 2001, 07:06:00 AM
LOL, 3 kills in 202 will get you a #10. Not many flies that plane  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Lephturn on March 07, 2001, 07:50:00 AM
I was about 41:8 in the Jug D-30 last tour.  Pretty good for me.  Score wise, Tour 12 was my best ever though.  69:14 in the D-25, yeah baby.  One of these days I'm really gonna try to nurse my score just to see how I do.  I kindof did in Tour 12, I really didn't do much of the silly stuff in the Jug.  It's really great to be able to separate your score for certain planes though.  It lets me do all the silly stuff in the Kitty or another plane, and I can save my Jug for when I really want to fly A2A and track my stats separately for that bird.  It's very nice.

I don't know where you guys find the time to fly this freakin' much.  Don't you guys like... work and stuff?  I'm luckly to grab a few hours a week.

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Sean "Lephturn" Conrad - Aces High Chief Trainer

A proud member of the mighty Flying Pigs
http://www.flyingpigs.com

Check out Lephturn's Aerodrome (http://users.andara.com/~sconrad/) for AH articles and training info!
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Mighty1 on March 07, 2001, 07:53:00 AM
Wow I made it to the top 10 list of something besides "Top 10 dicks in AH".
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Sancho on March 07, 2001, 07:55:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Mighty1:
Wow I made it to the top 10 list of something besides "Top 10 dicks in AH".

LOL!

Hey DV, you post the stats for "Top 10 dicks in AH" yet??  Naw, let's not go there...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Apache on March 07, 2001, 08:02:00 AM
Top 100 aren't always the best  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

La-5FN 44 Kills 11 Deaths
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Maniac on March 07, 2001, 08:42:00 AM
Westy you reading this one?



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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 07, 2001, 08:48:00 AM
 
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Hey DV, you post the stats for "Top 10 dicks in AH" yet??

And this is different from the Top 10 G-10 pilots in what way?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

GRUNHERZ and Apache, I'll get you two added to the list.

Its kinda funny, I went through so much name grabbing that they all turned into a blur.  As I was actually building the list, I'd get done and look at it and think "This doesn't look right".  I did it on the P-51 and thought "Where the hell is hangtime"... then I added him (funny thing is he made the F6F-5 list and not the P-51D (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)).. then I got done with the P-47-D30 list and said "Where the hell is Frenchy?".. then had to add him.  I got done with the P-38 list and said "Ah.. bug322 had to be here somewhere".  I think that speaks volumes for those particular pilots.

AKDejaVu

Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Ice on March 07, 2001, 09:14:00 AM
<S> I admire your effort Deja!

The only stat I pay attention to is the K/S.
I don't have the time that many have here to fly, so I try to make it count when I do.

Also, the kills per time stat...what do you all think of that as a barometer of ability and skill? Never have understood why its used.

Nice work Deja...thanks for the effort (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Ice
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 07, 2001, 09:26:00 AM
 
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The only stat I pay attention to is the K/S

I pay attention to most of them.  Unfortunately, the tools aren't there to do a more in-depth analysis for pilots in each aircraft.  I'd really like to include gunnery %, kills/time and kills/sortie into the equation too.

That said, I also believe that no combination of score is indicative of a pilots ability in a plane.  I know almost instantly when I run up against certain pilots in certain planes.  Its not by looking at their score.. its by looking at me getting my bellybutton handed to me yet again.  But if the pilot is constantly doing it amongst hordes of enemy planes.. the score won't reflect his abilities.

Still.. the numbers are fun to look at (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Apache on March 07, 2001, 09:33:00 AM
<S> DejaVu. My post was not to cause you more work or to toot my own horn. It's just that I wanted to make a point and I see that we agree. Some of the best pilots here who hand me my arse on a regular basis aren't in the top 100. I do decent here but Lord knows I don't belong in a "Top (Anything)" list.

You're right tho, the numbers are fun to look at. Appreciate the effort.
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: fscott on March 07, 2001, 09:36:00 AM
The scores are for pilots who care about their score.  I look at hit% more than anything, I think it is the one stat that indicates a good pilot. It also shows who sprays and prays.  A guy can have 100 kills and 100 deaths, but if his hit % is high like .10% or more, I take heed, he's a dangerous foe.

fscott
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: gatt on March 07, 2001, 09:51:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by fscott:
The scores are for pilots who care about their score.  I look at hit% more than anything, I think it is the one stat that indicates a good pilot. It also shows who sprays and prays.  A guy can have 100 kills and 100 deaths, but if his hit % is high like .10% or more, I take heed, he's a dangerous foe.

fscott

IMHO, a C-Hog or Niki guy with 100 kills and 100 deaths (and a 10% average hit ratio) is still a green pilot, dangerous only for the first and only guy unlucky enuff to fly within 1,000yds from him.
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: straffo on March 07, 2001, 09:58:00 AM
I reading my stat in all direction but I cannot understand how I've been in the Typhoon list ...
As I love furballing/jaboing with this beast it's not the good way to survive.

<edit> just understood it's pure Fighter/Fighter stat I did not take into account my numerous crash in the CV  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: fscott on March 07, 2001, 10:03:00 AM
I haven't encountered any "green" pilots that had high hit%. Maybe new guys, but they sure ain't green.  A newbie ain't gonna have a .10% hit ratio.

fscott
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: gatt on March 07, 2001, 10:09:00 AM
Man, the F4U-1D stats are impressive. Hats off to you guys!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Feed, I knew you were there  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Fishu on March 07, 2001, 10:14:00 AM
Survivability goes for me.. more exciting  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I tend to like strafing too much to get hit % high enough, though.. I haven't tried things under new fighter/attack things, how it counts the percentage.
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: maik on March 07, 2001, 01:54:00 PM
maik has 87 kills and has been killed 56 times in the C.205 in tour 13
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Vulcan on March 07, 2001, 03:08:00 PM
Its coz us Tiffie pilots got bigger nads than everyone else dude.

<S> to my fellow Tiffie pilots. Its the meanest looking squeakiest plane in AH. Ya don't argue with a TIFFIE  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

 
Quote
Originally posted by straffo:
I reading my stat in all direction but I cannot understand how I've been in the Typhoon list ...
As I love furballing/jaboing with this beast it's not the good way to survive.

<edit> just understood it's pure Fighter/Fighter stat I did not take into account my numerous crash in the CV   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: SKurj on March 07, 2001, 06:28:00 PM
woohoo +) i amde a top 10 list !!

Zero the Hero

SKurj
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 07, 2001, 06:46:00 PM
The following have been updated with the addition of Apache, GRUNHERZ and Kronos:

Bf 109G-10 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/Bf109G-10Tour13.gif)
La-5FN (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/La-5FNTour13.gif)
P-47-D30 (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-47-D30Tour13.gif)

I'd also like to add that I removed Viks15 from the La-5 list.  I in no way condone the abuse of the free two week trial.  I'm sure Viks12, Viks13, Viks14, Viks15 and Viks16 know exactly what I am talking about.

AKDejaVu

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 07, 2001, 06:47:00 PM
By the way, if you know you should be on one of the lists, drop me a line.  Several names have fallen through the cracks.  It takes about 2 minutes to add you.  And.. no need to apologize for inconveniencing me.. I feel bad enough that I didn't get you the first time as it is (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Sorrow[S=A] on March 07, 2001, 07:03:00 PM
VikS16 has 42 kills and 29 deaths in the La-5FN
Leo was smurfing under another name I cannot remember until last week, if I can recall it he probably was way over the others on that list.

Actually since Leo had to reform the 5Giap after he got his name back it's difficult to track down everything.
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Sorrow[S=A] on March 07, 2001, 07:08:00 PM
Hmm, didn't see your last post till after I posted Deja,
Vik is Russian and cannot afford to play- hence other members pay for him on a month by month basis. This is why he has so many names- not what you assumed. When one cannot afford to pay he needs to cancel before another can help him.
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Thunder on March 07, 2001, 07:24:00 PM
Vulcan,
Hummph! Nads..pony drivers have um too! Typhies think they can HO anything! They don't scare me! :d

 (http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/nads1.jpg)

 (http://www.13thtas.com/images/spoof/nads2.jpg)

Thunder
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Vulcan on March 07, 2001, 07:54:00 PM
BS, I can see pee-stains under that ponies cockpit  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Nice screenshots BTW... hmmm a Nit tiffie pilot.
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on March 07, 2001, 09:08:00 PM
Uhmm Thunder....
  (http://www.geocities.com/weissdr1/nads1.jpg)   http://www.geocities.com/weissdr1/nads1.jpg (http://www.geocities.com/weissdr1/nads1.jpg)
-SW
ps: Geocities blows chunks now. Just copy the shortcut if it doesn't show into you address box.

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 07, 2001, 11:29:00 PM
 
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Vik is Russian and cannot afford to play- hence other members pay for him on a month by month basis. This is why he has so many names- not what you assumed.

6 different Viks Ids have played in the last 11 weeks.  Are these people buying him 2 week accounts that are non-refundable?

I belive its closer to what I assumed than what you think.

AKDejaVu

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Tac on March 08, 2001, 12:23:00 AM
Tac has 179 kills and died 163 times in the P-38L.

Hope im getting the right info =P

WTG BUG322!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) A =Twin Engined Devil= leading the score.. im proud!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 08, 2001, 12:37:00 AM
Thanks for pointing that out tac.. you didn't make the list either for some reason.  That error has been corrected (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

So.. here is the updated P-38 (above is updated too.. just re-providing the link):

P-38L (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/P-38LTour13.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 08, 2001, 12:38:00 AM
BTW, I hope nobody does this that made the F4u-1D list.  My fragile ego would have a tough time dealing with the list ommision (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: straffo on March 08, 2001, 02:33:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Vulcan:
Its coz us Tiffie pilots got bigger nads than everyone else dude.

I prefer a wingman to bigger "parts"  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: Vulcan on March 08, 2001, 02:42:00 AM
Hey each to his own sexual preference  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

 
Quote
Originally posted by straffo:
I prefer a wingman to bigger "parts"   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 08, 2001, 08:26:00 PM
La-5FN (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/Top10/Tour13/La-5FNTour13.gif)

You are on this one Laika <S>

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 13 Top 10 pilots in each fighter (fscott?)
Post by: tom666 on March 09, 2001, 07:02:00 AM
Thank   Bayerische Flugzeugwerke und Rheinmetall for the 109G6 and the 30mm cannon.
Even  Creamo the Queen of all Dweebs had to reallize it`s the only way to fly.