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Title: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Aspen on July 11, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
I threw this out on some other thread awhile back.  Thought I' would put it here and let it get bashed around a bit.

One of the biggest complaints is poor game play by other players.  I realize the definition of poor game play is all over the board and that will never change.  Valid or not, theres really no penalty other than getting flak on 200, PMs, or the BBS.

What if when you get killed, you get a popup that says "JohnQPlayer has killed you with a P-51B" and a check box to award 150%, 100%, or 50% perks?

This could be tracked as reputation score/points/rank.  I know we have a reputation in achievements now but that just means achievement total.

Would some score/perk related accountability promote better interaction?  Worse? 
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: nrshida on July 11, 2013, 01:22:15 PM
Ha ha ha, brilliant! +1,000,000  :banana:

Can I have this printed on my stab:

"How's my flying? Call 0800-up-your-nose-with-a-rubber-hose".  :banana:
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Arlo on July 11, 2013, 01:25:51 PM
I threw this out on some other thread awhile back.  Thought I' would put it here and let it get bashed around a bit.

One of the biggest complaints is poor game play by other players.  I realize the definition of poor game play is all over the board and that will never change.  Valid or not, theres really no penalty other than getting flak on 200, PMs, or the BBS.

What if when you get killed, you get a popup that says "JohnQPlayer has killed you with a P-51B" and a check box to award 150%, 100%, or 50% perks?

This could be tracked as reputation score/points/rank.  I know we have a reputation in achievements now but that just means achievement total.

Would some score/perk related accountability promote better interaction?  Worse? 

Players having the capacity to reduce another player's perks is not a good idea. Nor would the capacity to increase them be.
It's yet another window to subverting the perk system.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: LCADolby on July 11, 2013, 01:27:18 PM
Xbox uses stars to track a player's reputation.   :old:
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: gyrene81 on July 11, 2013, 01:29:55 PM
Xbox uses stars to track a player's reputation.   :old:
i would get dog turds...from pooping all over the squeakers funzones.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Wiley on July 11, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
I threw this out on some other thread awhile back.  Thought I' would put it here and let it get bashed around a bit.

One of the biggest complaints is poor game play by other players.  I realize the definition of poor game play is all over the board and that will never change.  Valid or not, theres really no penalty other than getting flak on 200, PMs, or the BBS.

What if when you get killed, you get a popup that says "JohnQPlayer has killed you with a P-51B" and a check box to award 150%, 100%, or 50% perks?

This could be tracked as reputation score/points/rank.  I know we have a reputation in achievements now but that just means achievement total.

Would some score/perk related accountability promote better interaction?  Worse? 

 :huh -1000000

There are enough people who have never been shot down 'fairly' in this game according to them that putting the ability to control other peoples' scores or perks is just flat out a bad idea.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 11, 2013, 01:39:55 PM
Xbox uses stars to track a player's reputation.   :old:

The reputation system for the Xbox is worthless as it can be easily manipulated.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: ImADot on July 11, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
Maybe a client-side preference setting: Once you land or die, you get to rate the fight(s).

Each fight would pop up for you to rate on a scale 1-5; 5 being Epic and 1 being Lame

Let's say you killed two players and then died:

Killed: JoePlayer's P-51B [1]   (skilless and easy to kill)
Killed: FrankieBoy's Brewster [3]  (pretty good fight with plenty of action)
Died: JohnnyMan's Yak-9 [5]  (white-knuckle drag out lasted 5 minutes and you need a break to recover)

You could then check player stats on the roster, much like you can now, and see their average rating points based on number of sorties flown. The higher the points, the better the fights people think they get from him.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Zacherof on July 11, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
I threw this out on some other thread awhile back.  Thought I' would put it here and let it get bashed around a bit.

One of the biggest complaints is poor game play by other players.  I realize the definition of poor game play is all over the board and that will never change.  Valid or not, theres really no penalty other than getting flak on 200, PMs, or the BBS.

What if when you get killed, you get a popup that says "JohnQPlayer has killed you with a P-51B" and a check box to award 150%, 100%, or 50% perks?

This could be tracked as reputation score/points/rank.  I know we have a reputation in achievements now but that just means achievement total.

Would some score/perk related accountability promote better interaction?  Worse? 
And if the player is a poor sport? What then? His p51 gets nailed by a well flown 38G so he has a hissy fit.
Or this could become a mild farming perks easier(with/without shades)

Other wise i kinda like the idea
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: guncrasher on July 11, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
noe mission on a field and we can't up because we too busy rating the prior flight.  or I'm rocket vulching a field and I gotta wait for defenders to rate my style.


semp
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: nrshida on July 11, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
I think in principal it is a funny / great idea. We've got starts now for bailing out of a plane  :frown:  A 'gives a good and sporting fight' star sounds like more sense to me.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Tinkles on July 11, 2013, 02:22:44 PM
I threw this out on some other thread awhile back.  Thought I' would put it here and let it get bashed around a bit.

One of the biggest complaints is poor game play by other players.  I realize the definition of poor game play is all over the board and that will never change.  Valid or not, theres really no penalty other than getting flak on 200, PMs, or the BBS.

What if when you get killed, you get a popup that says "JohnQPlayer has killed you with a P-51B" and a check box to award 150%, 100%, or 50% perks?

This could be tracked as reputation score/points/rank.  I know we have a reputation in achievements now but that just means achievement total.

Would some score/perk related accountability promote better interaction?  Worse? 

While this is an interesting idea. I find it to be easily available to abusers.

#1 Shade accounts would be the best example. You kill a shadow toon or a friend and give yourself or the friend 150%-200% perks. To make it better you fly the 2-5 eny planes and they fly the 40 eny.

#2 Gives control to the jerks.  You had a good fight, you didn't do anything wrong. They only give you 50% of the perks.

Having others dictate what your reward is, isn't what I call gameplay. They could say 50% just to be a jerk, or because YOU are the jerk, who is supposed to know?

There are some fights that I can see me giving both ends of the scale.


It's a great idea, but all in all.. it would be abused. 


Just my thoughts.

Tinkles

 :salute
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: bustr on July 11, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
Safer place to let it be abused would be (.s) command.

SYSTEM:.s 1 aspen
SYSTEM: Salute Aspen GF (Great Fight)

SYSTEM:.s 2 aspen
SYSTEM: Salute Aspen NT (Next Time)

SYSTEM:.s 3 aspen
SYSTEM: Salute Aspen NWT (Not Worth the Time)

SYSTEM: .s aspen
SYSTEM: Salute Aspen

SYSTEM: .sq player ID (Squelchs player ID from sending you salutes during this active session. Players can be squelched as a price for abusing it. The squelch can only happen if and to another player who has sent a salute in your active session to you. Subsequent attempts will result in a SYSTEM message to the sender of "Player not accepting salutes at this time". No salute goes out.)

Let .rs reflect back the sender's sentiment.

Sure for awhile it will get abused. But, we know pretty much the roster of who will send everyone they fight an NWT. Then you can squelch them.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Arlo on July 11, 2013, 04:33:56 PM
The dreaded dot commands. erg.

I spent five minutes in the DA today when the game eliminated my cursor (the arrow one) and I forgot that it's .ef (for end flight) and not .es (for end sortie). Maybe I need a set of old man macros wired to toggles with large legible lettering. But ... on the topic of useless but amusing dot command potential:

.vjw (adjusts vox to make player sound like John Wayne)

.vojw (adjusts vox to make other player sound like John Wayne)

.vck/.vock (adjusts vox to make self or other sound like Colonel Klink - .vss/voss ... Sergeant Shultz .... I just typed 'voss' ... eh)

.du/player name (display underwear) The person you perceive as whining will have a pair of skivvies hanging off their rudder (your end only)
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: morfiend on July 11, 2013, 04:52:11 PM
 It's not a bad idea,except the perks part!  Rating a fight and adding a comment can be useful. Real Pilots kept a log!

  Years ago a player with a different name than Morf used to do this all the time,he logged the hours in the planes,logged sorties and made comments and all he needed was an old fashioned pen and little black book!,Saddly the black book didn't have any other reason to exist so it was put to use!

 I know most run film today and save them,I have never filmed in AH just kept a list of things.



    :salute
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: LCADolby on July 11, 2013, 05:32:26 PM
all he needed was an old fashioned pen and little black book!,Saddly the black book didn't have any other reason to exist so it was put to use!


The last time I looked at a little black book it was full of laydees phone numbers with a star rating...  :old:
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Aspen on July 11, 2013, 05:46:46 PM
I see the issues.  How about just a Thumbs up, Meh, or Thumbs down button, no perks or score effected.  Somewhere a players Thumbs up count is listed.

Maybe silly.  Just trying to think of a way to reward the guys that make the game enjoyable and are a positive part of it.  Has nothing to do with skill, the game is supported and gets a lot of its personality from the thousands of average and below players.  The good sticks are important, but good ACM and being a fun guy to fly with/against aren't necessarily connected.  The learning curve is steep already.  A quality new guy who runs into a few poor experiences with people being *&^%s might not stick around.

Sort of like an archery or bowling league.  The scores may matter to the individual players, but an awful bowler who makes things fun, recruits new players, stays after to sweep up, etc , is a way bigger asset than a negative guy with great skills.  If you have $500 to pay out from the league, you give the hot bowlers/shooters $50 worth of trophies and spend the other $450 keeping the other 90% happy and interested with some door prizes and a BBQ night.  They pay the bills.

Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Arlo on July 11, 2013, 05:58:02 PM
It's not a bad idea,except the perks part!  Rating a fight and adding a comment can be useful. Real Pilots kept a log!

  Years ago a player with a different name than Morf used to do this all the time,he logged the hours in the planes,logged sorties and made comments and all he needed was an old fashioned pen and little black book!,Saddly the black book didn't have any other reason to exist so it was put to use!

 I know most run film today and save them,I have never filmed in AH just kept a list of things.



    :salute

(http://imageshack.us/a/img69/1369/rks.png)
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: BluBerry on July 11, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
The dreaded dot commands. erg.

I spent five minutes in the DA today when the game eliminated my cursor (the arrow one) and I forgot that it's .ef (for end flight) and not .es (for end sortie). Maybe I need a set of old man macros wired to toggles with large legible lettering. But ... on the topic of useless but amusing dot command potential:

.vjw (adjusts vox to make player sound like John Wayne)

.vojw (adjusts vox to make other player sound like John Wayne)

.vck/.vock (adjusts vox to make self or other sound like Colonel Klink - .vss/voss ... Sergeant Shultz .... I just typed 'voss' ... eh)

.du/player name (display underwear) The person you perceive as whining will have a pair of skivvies hanging off their rudder (your end only)

could of just hit "H" and got your cursor back  :)
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Arlo on July 11, 2013, 06:10:42 PM
could of just hit "H" and got your cursor back  :)

H, huh? You're a good egg.  :)
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: Rino on July 11, 2013, 08:17:30 PM
      Kind of wondering why I'd want my target's input on my flight.  If you had a good fight and lost it's
easy enough to .S them or give em a thumbs up on 200. 

     Letting the loser decide how many perks to award sounds lihe a fantastically bad idea with plenty
of room for generating hard feelings.  Some here act like their wee-wee shrinks if they get shot gown
as it is  :D
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: morfiend on July 12, 2013, 12:02:09 AM
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  Ok so you found it...... :neener: :neener:

   Like I said it served no other purpose so I thought I'd put it to use!


   However it was for my eyes only!!! :furious :furious



    :salute
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: nrshida on July 12, 2013, 01:28:48 AM
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I want to see Titan's diary  :lol

Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: uptown on July 12, 2013, 02:33:55 PM
I just ask that someone fax me a beer if I impress them enough with my fancy dandy pileot skillz. If I get good enough the deposit on the cans should pay for my AcesHigh subscription.
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: ink on July 12, 2013, 02:37:53 PM
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dear Diary July 11th<-------------- :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Rate Your Enemy
Post by: asterix on July 13, 2013, 07:08:10 AM
I do not like the rating idea because people`s emotions play a big role here and people tend to be more negative in virtual communication. Someone with a grude may give a bad rating every time. After spending some time in a game one gets to know who fights well. I think players with low rating would just change their game tag after a while. If I see a con then I do not know who it is and what kind of fight to expect. Salute or private message is a good way to say you had a good fight. Statistics and rank is also available to everyone.