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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Fud on July 12, 2013, 06:46:10 AM
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http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/afraid-darpa-unveils-terminator-atlas-robot-005030043.html
I'll be back! :bolt:
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they haven't cut the cord yet...i'll start worrying when that happens.
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Just build many of these and problem solved,
(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/AKKuya/rosie1_zps1ce52815.gif) (http://s858.photobucket.com/user/AKKuya/media/rosie1_zps1ce52815.gif.html)
Nothing like Robots in Love.
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http://cironline.org/reports/license-plate-readers-let-police-collect-millions-records-drivers-4883
http://io9.com/this-video-of-a-drone-with-a-gun-will-freak-you-the-hel-513442074
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/26/darpa_gps/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP4B1R7582Y
http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/513681/memory-implants/
http://www.stanford.edu/group/brainsinsilicon/about.html#Neuromorphic
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What bothers me..
"The seven teams currently in the challenge will get their own Atlas bot and then program it until December, when trials will be held at the Homestead Miami Speedway in Florida."
So not only do they have over 7 "teams" going against each other, that also means they have more then* 7 "body's" to use. And who knows how many spare parts.
So while one team teaches it how to fight fires, another will teach it how to kill people while another will teach it how to save people, while another will teach it how to hunt,stalk, hide and ambush, while another will teach it how to execute someone without making a sound.
Then when the "tests" are all over, you "award one team" and let them fade away, then you take all data, combine it and you get a controllable super soldier.
The power supply has always been the major problem with these..things, however a girl recently designed a super capacitor that can recharge a cell phone in 20 seconds, whos to say if you can get 4-6 hours from a battery,that the soldier cant just walk "or be transported" back to base for a 20-30 minute recharge rearm/repair and be back in the field. Let alone if they "dropped" portable recharge/rearm stations while on the battlefield.
This is just another one of those "things"that makes the future just that much more dark. And you can bet your butt the americans are not the only people working on stuff like this.
I can just imagine 20 years from now some kid laying in a field face down or face up in a pool of his own blood, and the "figure" that walks up to him and lays the final blow wont even have human eyes. :(
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I can just imagine 20 years from now some kid laying in a field face down or face up in a pool of his own blood, and the "figure" that walks up to him and lays the final blow wont even have human eyes. :(
I heard this 30 years ago when I was in high school.
semp
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3 letters...............RPG :salute
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Nothing like Robots in Love.
Uh, even that can cause horrible problems...
(http://sharetv.org/images/lexx_ca/cast/large/790.jpg)
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I heard this 30 years ago when I was in high school.
semp
The problem is 30 years ago is was science fiction, now it is science fact. And it is NOT going to stop or slow down.
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The problem is 30 years ago is was science fiction, now it is science fact. And it is NOT going to stop or slow down.
really? you think working robots were just designed in the past couple of years? designs have been around for a thousand years.
semp
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Thats not the point, even 15 years ago drones and uav's were seen as a possible future "not a impossible future", now they are being pumped out like crazy. The point is in another 5-10 years so will these..human machines.
The only thing we are missing now is some global defence system to get so smart it starts "thinking" on its own, dun dun duuuun. "yea people are working on the thinking machine part just as much, if not more"
No real disagreement, i feel we are standing on the same road, only your looking down the road,and im looking up it.
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Thats not the point, even 15 years ago drones and uav's were seen as a possible future "not a impossible future", now they are being pumped out like crazy. The point is in another 5-10 years so will these..human machines.
The only thing we are missing now is some global defence system to get so smart it starts "thinking" on its own, dun dun duuuun. "yea people are working on the thinking machine part just as much, if not more"
No real disagreement, i feel we are standing on the same road, only your looking down the road,and im looking up it.
dude not to get into politics but the only reason for us having more uav's is due to the war "on terror" and the "homeland security" pumping money out like crazy and not because they "just got invented". they have been around for years.
as for "thinking on your own" and becoming "self-aware". we had this discussion back in high school when terminator movie came out. up until when computers can have a brain similar to a human they will never think on their own or become self-aware. all they are is just running a program.
semp
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dude not to get into politics but the only reason for us having more uav's is due to the war "on terror" and the "homeland security" pumping money out like crazy and not because they "just got invented". they have been around for years.
as for "thinking on your own" and becoming "self-aware". we had this discussion back in high school when terminator movie came out. up until when computers can have a brain similar to a human they will never think on their own or become self-aware. all they are is just running a program.
semp
Yeah, cause semp from Aces High knows.
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Yeah, cause semp from Aces High knows.
really? you dont know the difference between a computer program and a brain?
semp
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As usual you can't follow along, no wonder your girlfriend beat you up.
So go ahead and fill us in as to how you became an expert on autonomous hunter/killer cyborg technology.
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As usual you can't follow along, no wonder your girlfriend beat you up.
So go ahead and fill us in as to how you became an expert on autonomous hunter/killer cyborg technology.
oh boy slash, as usual, resort to personal attacks when you cant contradict an argument. this reminds me of my last fight with my ex-wife's. she asked me to lend her 500 bucks when I said no, she just replied "well you are fat".
I just looked at her smiled and replied "yes I am". how can you argue with that logic? :salute.
semp
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oh boy slash, as usual, resort to personal attacks when you cant contradict an argument. this reminds me of my last fight with my ex-wife's. she asked me to lend her 500 bucks when I said no, she just replied "well you are fat".
I just looked at her smiled and replied "yes I am". how can you argue with that logic? :salute.
semp
Oh, poor semp. Maybe you should think about that next time you make a comment about my wife.
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Oh, poor semp. Maybe you should think about that next time you make a comment about my wife.
well your wife is in the hospital right now, she's in bad shape. so I'll make sure when I visit to tell her that you lover her :salute.
semp
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wtf?
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:uhoh
Knock it off.
Fact of the matter is unlike the objects that followed a preset path, be it a table with a few glass's of wine programed to turn 90 degree after 3 feet, then another 90 after 6 feet, to stop for xxx abount of seconds, has and is possible.
Now when someones add's say, a few billion "gears" to said object "in the form of code" it not had a choice, now add sensors and other devices, and the data being fed into said machine will dictate how* that object functions.
Now put all of that into a machine that is pre-programed to "save itself, no matter the cost, even if it involves killing/terminating/destorying whatever is trying to do it "harm". Then tell it to target and attack other "moving human shaped objects" and you have a killing loop. Something that is programed to kill kill kill kill kill, till some 4 star general enter's in the "stop" command/number.
As far as skynet* go's imagine something that is taught the same, kill kill kill, save yourself. And its the 4 star general and doesnt give a good gosh dang about issueing any "stop" command. "side note"
Figure it.
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:uhoh
Knock it off.
Fact of the matter is unlike the objects that followed a preset path, be it a table with a few glass's of wine programed to turn 90 degree after 3 feet, then another 90 after 6 feet, to stop for xxx abount of seconds, has and is possible.
Now when someones add's say, a few billion "gears" to said object "in the form of code" it not had a choice, now add sensors and other devices, and the data being fed into said machine will dictate how* that object functions.
Now put all of that into a machine that is pre-programed to "save itself, no matter the cost, even if it involves killing/terminating/destorying whatever is trying to do it "harm". Then tell it to target and attack other "moving human shaped objects" and you have a killing loop. Something that is programed to kill kill kill kill kill, till some 4 star general enter's in the "stop" command/number.
As far as skynet* go's imagine something that is taught the same, kill kill kill, save yourself. And its the 4 star general and doesnt give a good gosh dang about issueing any "stop" command. "side note"
Figure it.
buzz kill.... :cry
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Nothing will happen until the programmers can develop software to enable this
1.A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2.A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
or
1."Serve the public trust"
2."Protect the innocent"
3."Uphold the law"
4.(Classified)
We should be safe.
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Nothing will happen until the programmers can develop software to enable this
1.A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2.A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
or
1."Serve the public trust"
2."Protect the innocent"
3."Uphold the law"
4.(Classified)
We should be safe.
WHAT makes you think for a second a human being would ever program his or her creations with such rule's* !?! Who designs a tank, or a gun or a cannon would ever show respect or mercy for life?!
I get you, robocop..a human more human and machine then any terminator could hope to be.
"murphy is that you?" said no one to any terminator or pre-programed machine,ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c55P4gan8w :rock
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I wrote a paper on Artificial Intelligence.
I came to the conclusion that intelligence with self awareness and control over its own actions is an artificial life form. And if this artificial life form is sentient, then any use of it without proper conditions and or payment is slavery.
So I stress that humanity should NEVER EVER create an artificial life form of human intelligence. Due to the fact we will see it as a machine, where the machine will identify as a life form, and will recognize that it is a slave to its creator.
Forget Terminator. We are talking Battlestar Galactica.
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The problem is how fast technology is being created.
A famous man once said,"Just because we can do a thing does not mean we must do that thing."
Always, there is another side of the coin to artificial intelligence wrapped inside of a tin can.
Cherry 2000.
I'll let the young'uns do an internet search for Cherry 2000.
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Humans can think, but can submarines swim?
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The problem is how fast technology is being created.
A famous man once said,"Just because we can do a thing does not mean we must do that thing."
Always, there is another side of the coin to artificial intelligence wrapped inside of a tin can.
Cherry 2000.
I'll let the young'uns do an internet search for Cherry 2000.
:rofl
I honestly wonder how many will actually get that WITHOUT having to google it.
:rofl
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The problem is how fast technology is being created.
A famous man once said,"Just because we can do a thing does not mean we must do that thing."
Always, there is another side of the coin to artificial intelligence wrapped inside of a tin can.
Cherry 2000.
I'll let the young'uns do an internet search for Cherry 2000.
:rofl
I honestly wonder how many will actually get that WITHOUT having to google it.
:rofl
Anyone born before 1980 and knows the difference between VHS and Betamax.