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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Karnak on July 16, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
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(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak9u_1.jpg)
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak9t_2.jpg)
Does the Yak-9T being an early example potentially change its performance at all?
Pyro, have the Yak flight models been tweaked or redone?
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My favorite fighter.... drooooooooool.... :x
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i called this when the Hetzer and friends were shown. Yak whines can now be transferred over to the Mig-3 Pe-3 and TU-2.
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VK105PF was used throughout its life. I am not aware of any other performance upgrades throughout its production cycle.
I think HTC have missed a cheap trick re the M & DD variants.
Nice work on the 3D and skins. Obviously we are all waiting to see cockpit comparisons with the 3.
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:aok :airplane:
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With this update the Soviet plane/tankset is all at AH2 standards, being the first multi-airframe/hull to be completely updated.
Remaining to be updated:
| Germany | Japan | United Kingdom | United States |
| Ar234B | B5N2 'Kate' | Boston Mk III | A-20G Havoc |
| Bf110C-4b | D3A1 'Val' | Tempest Mk V | B-26B Marauder |
| Bf110G-2 | Ki-61-I-Tei | | F4F-4 Wildcat |
| Ju88A-4 | Ki-67 'Peggy' | | FM2 Wildcat |
| Me163B | | | SBD-5 Dauntless |
| | | TBM-3 Avenger |
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:aok
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Remaining to be updated:
I have always wondered why the Tempest wasn't updated along with the Typhoon ...
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I have always wondered why the Tempest wasn't updated along with the Typhoon ...
it would seem logical.
Is there any real difference in cockpit design and setup?
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I have always wondered why the Tempest wasn't updated along with the Typhoon ...
Thought the same thing. :headscratch: Maybe another variant to be added?
http://ww2total.com/WW2/Weapons/War-Planes/Fighter-Planes/British/Tempest/images/Hawker-Tempest-1-px800.jpg
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no yak 1 :(
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no yak 1 :(
no but you get a yak7...just about as good.
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Very nice. Can I pet your yak? :D
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Nice! :)
Great job on the skins again Greebo!
Does the Yak-9T being an early example potentially change its performance at all?
I doubt that the climb/speed -performance will change. I think it's just that Greebo decided to pick an early production example for the default skin. There was much less changes done to the Yak-9T during its production than Yak-7B's for example.
The screenshots are titled "Yak-9T" instead of "Yak-9". I wonder if it will have any new load out options or if there perhaps are more variants coming. Considering the historical importance of the Yak-line, it would be quite a shame not to have Shvak-20 armed Yak-9.
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My favorite fighter.... drooooooooool.... :x
I still have that "ThndrYak" video I made for you many, many moons ago. ;)
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I have always wondered why the Tempest wasn't updated along with the Typhoon ...
There is quite a lot of difference between the Typhoon and Tempest shape wise. Our late variant Typhoon has the same tail surfaces, canopy and propeller as the Tempest. However the wing on the Tempest has a much thinner laminar flow section, the wing planform is semi-elliptical rather than straight tapered, the gear and flaps are different too. The thinner wing meant Hawker had to move the fuel tanks to the fuselage, which made it longer than the Typhoon's.
Having said that, there is just as much difference between the various versions of Yak.
My choice of default skin for the 9T (or any other ride) has no bearing on its properties in the game. I just thought the early green/black scheme looked better than the later two tone grey one.
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Yaks look very purty. :aok
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I think HTC have missed a cheap trick re the M & DD variants.
This could mean that Yak-9/9D would be coming.
Somehow my gut tells me that isn't happening though and that these are the four variants we are getting. :(
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There is quite a lot of difference between the Typhoon and Tempest shape wise.
I was aware of that. :)
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I'll be flying Yak's a lot more often now! :aok :O
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She looks MEAN!
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/yak/yak9u_2.jpg)
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no yak 1 :(
I'm sure we're not missing out that much by not getting Yak 1 for early war (early war = 1940-41) unless you really want a loose copy of early LaGG-3s by Yakovlev Bureau :D
If we do get Yak-1 for early war I think it will look like this...
(http://www.airvectors.net/avyak1_2.png)
(http://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/1/8/0/1580_rd.jpg)
(http://www.soviethammer.net/img/upload/jak123.jpg)
* The first pre-production I-26 fighters rolled of the production lines of a Moscow plant and were passed on to a field evaluation unit. These aircraft were fully armed with the ShVAK 20 millimeter cannon and two ShKAS 7.62 millimeter machine guns. Pilots regarded the armament as too light, though Soviet aerial machine guns and cannons had rates of fire very roughly about half again greater than their Western counterparts as partial compensation. About one in five of the fighters were fitted with racks to carry six RS-82 82 millimeter rockets on underwing racks, which would be used for both air-to-ground and air-to-air combat. Although inaccurate, they would literally blow an enemy aircraft apart on a hit, and had delay fuzing that allowed them to burst inside enemy bomber formations, blasting out a cloud of shrapnel.
The fuel tanks obtained some protection against small-arms fire by being covered with four layers of coarse cord fabric, impregnated with phenol-formaldehyde resin. The cockpit was equipped with basic engine and flight instruments, plus a simple gunsight, a compass, and a clock. Radio gear was not standard at the time, but the I-26 could carry a one-channel radio. Landing lights were not fitted.
There were still various technical problems, particularly with the undercarriage and the engine, with Yakovlev and his team working on fixing them as aircraft rolled out the door of the factory. They managed to patch up the worst bugs, but only at the expense of increasing the aircraft's weight, reducing its performance. Top speed was 540 KPH (335 MPH) and range was 700 kilometers (435 miles); the speed needed to be increased, though the range was tolerable for front-line battlefield operations. Soviet industry was busy turning out other new fighters, such as the LaGG-1 and MiG-3, with bugs of their own. There was no time to wait for something better. The Soviets had to make do with what they had and try to work out the problems as they went along.
Production for the new Yak fighter ramped up only slowly. By the end of 1940, only 64 had been delivered. At this time, the type was redesignated "Yak-1" by Stalin's order.
By the time of the German invasion of the USSR on 22 June 1941, almost 400 Yak-1s had been delivered. Despite the deficiencies of the Yak-1, it was still better than the old Polikarpov fighters that equipped most other fighter units, but remained inferior to the German Bf-109F. Red planes were swept out of the sky by the Luftwaffe, with German pilots achieving a kill ratio of at least ten to one. However, few experienced Soviet pilots were lost; the bulk of the aircraft destroyed were obsolete anyway; and although the Soviets took much greater losses than the Germans, the USSR was much more able to replace them over the long run.
* Even though the Yakovlev production and design facilities were moved wholesale out of the path of the German advance to east of the Urals, production of the Yak-1 was only interrupted for a short time, a tribute to the competent planning of the move. As new Yak-1s were rolled off the production lines for immediate delivery to frontal forces, Yakovlev engineers added new features designed in response to "front-line demand" by Red pilots.
Beginning in the summer of 1941, Yak-1s were also fitted with the improved Klimov M-105PA engine, which was more reliable than the M-105P, if still not entirely satisfactory, and could operate in inverted flight and negative-gee maneuvers. A number of winterized Yak-1s, with retractable ski landing gear, white paint, and other cold-weather refinements, were produced in the winter of 1941:1942. The racks for the RS-82 rockets were eliminated from production in the spring of 1942 since they degraded the aircraft's performance. They were replaced by underwing racks for a total of two bombs of up to 100 kilograms (220 pounds) each. However, the Yak-1 simply didn't have enough horsepower to carry that kind of a load well, and in practice it was used as a fighter-bomber only in a pinch.
http://www.airvectors.net/avyak1.html
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Excellent. Can't wait to see what weapons packages the Yaks have as options.
Hoping for the Pe-2, LaGG-3, and MiG-3 somewhere down the line.
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With this update the Soviet plane/tankset is all at AH2 standards, being the first multi-airframe/hull to be completely updated.
Remaining to be updated:
| Germany | Japan | United Kingdom | United States |
| Ar234B | B5N2 'Kate' | Boston Mk III | A-20G Havoc |
| Bf110C-4b | D3A1 'Val' | Tempest Mk V | B-26B Marauder |
| Bf110G-2 | Ki-61-I-Tei | | F4F-4 Wildcat |
| Ju88A-4 | Ki-67 'Peggy' | | FM2 Wildcat |
| Me163B | | | SBD-5 Dauntless |
| | | TBM-3 Avenger |
The KI84 could sure use an update.
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The KI84 could sure use an update.
For what reason? The only plausible reason I can see is that the cockpit looks outdated compared to the rest of the updated/new aircraft.
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For what reason? The only plausible reason I can see is that the cockpit looks outdated compared to the rest of the updated/new aircraft.
That is what I was referring to. :)
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Very Nice!
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For what reason? The only plausible reason I can see is that the cockpit looks outdated compared to the rest of the updated/new aircraft.
Yes, that's what it needs.
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Nice job on the Yak-9s. I'm looking at the glass half full here as we are getting 4 versions of Yakovlevs in total (so far). That will give us 7 Russian fighters and i'm sure down the road we will see a MiG or LaGG and maybe a Pe-2 before too long. :salute HTC and thanks Waffle and Greebo.
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Yes, that's what it needs.
in addition to the perked guad 20's :old:
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The KI84 could sure use an update.
Sure, but it is an AH2 standard model. In fact it, along with the B-24J and T-34/76 were the units that introduced the AH2 standard with moving cockpit controls and modeled wheel bays.
The ones I listed don't have any of that because they are the remaining AH1 models.
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Sure, but it is an AH2 standard model. In fact it, along with the B-24J and T-34/76 were the units that introduced the AH2 standard with moving cockpit controls and modeled wheel bays.
The ones I listed don't have any of that because they are the remaining AH1 models.
That still doesn't change the fact that the KI needs to have its cockpit updated.
The KI looks like an AH1 model
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That still doesn't change the fact that the KI needs to have its cockpit updated.
The KI looks like an AH1 model
well if thats the case I'd like the F4U's updated to the latest and greatest.
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well if thats the case I'd like the F4U's updated to the latest and greatest.
then I want my 190's updated! :old:
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Spitfires up to the Hurricane's standard please :old:
And while you're at it.
Give me the quad cannon Spit V.
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P47 razorbacks MUST be updated too then! :old:
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I need the Beaufighter and Boomerang models updated to the new lancs standard! These imaginary models just are not cutting it!
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That still doesn't change the fact that the KI needs to have its cockpit updated.
The KI looks like an AH1 model
The cockpit framing on the Ki-84 has never been good. Frankly some AH1 models, such as the pre-update A6M5, had noticeably better looking cockpit framing/
well if thats the case I'd like the F4U's updated to the latest and greatest.
The F4Us are not all that far from current standards, having a lot of detail that the older AH2 models lack such as the 3D bolts in the cockpit. The F4U's also have, to the best of my knowledge, the only articulated tabs in the game.
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I'm sure we're not missing out that much by not getting Yak 1 for early war (early war = 1940-41) unless you really want a loose copy of early LaGG-3s by Yakovlev Bureau :D
If we do get Yak-1 for early war I think it will look like this...
(http://www.airvectors.net/avyak1_2.png)
(http://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/1/8/0/1580_rd.jpg)
(http://www.soviethammer.net/img/upload/jak123.jpg)
* The first pre-production I-26 fighters rolled of the production lines of a Moscow plant and were passed on to a field evaluation unit. These aircraft were fully armed with the ShVAK 20 millimeter cannon and two ShKAS 7.62 millimeter machine guns. Pilots regarded the armament as too light, though Soviet aerial machine guns and cannons had rates of fire very roughly about half again greater than their Western counterparts as partial compensation. About one in five of the fighters were fitted with racks to carry six RS-82 82 millimeter rockets on underwing racks, which would be used for both air-to-ground and air-to-air combat. Although inaccurate, they would literally blow an enemy aircraft apart on a hit, and had delay fuzing that allowed them to burst inside enemy bomber formations, blasting out a cloud of shrapnel.
The fuel tanks obtained some protection against small-arms fire by being covered with four layers of coarse cord fabric, impregnated with phenol-formaldehyde resin. The cockpit was equipped with basic engine and flight instruments, plus a simple gunsight, a compass, and a clock. Radio gear was not standard at the time, but the I-26 could carry a one-channel radio. Landing lights were not fitted.
There were still various technical problems, particularly with the undercarriage and the engine, with Yakovlev and his team working on fixing them as aircraft rolled out the door of the factory. They managed to patch up the worst bugs, but only at the expense of increasing the aircraft's weight, reducing its performance. Top speed was 540 KPH (335 MPH) and range was 700 kilometers (435 miles); the speed needed to be increased, though the range was tolerable for front-line battlefield operations. Soviet industry was busy turning out other new fighters, such as the LaGG-1 and MiG-3, with bugs of their own. There was no time to wait for something better. The Soviets had to make do with what they had and try to work out the problems as they went along.
Production for the new Yak fighter ramped up only slowly. By the end of 1940, only 64 had been delivered. At this time, the type was redesignated "Yak-1" by Stalin's order.
By the time of the German invasion of the USSR on 22 June 1941, almost 400 Yak-1s had been delivered. Despite the deficiencies of the Yak-1, it was still better than the old Polikarpov fighters that equipped most other fighter units, but remained inferior to the German Bf-109F. Red planes were swept out of the sky by the Luftwaffe, with German pilots achieving a kill ratio of at least ten to one. However, few experienced Soviet pilots were lost; the bulk of the aircraft destroyed were obsolete anyway; and although the Soviets took much greater losses than the Germans, the USSR was much more able to replace them over the long run.
* Even though the Yakovlev production and design facilities were moved wholesale out of the path of the German advance to east of the Urals, production of the Yak-1 was only interrupted for a short time, a tribute to the competent planning of the move. As new Yak-1s were rolled off the production lines for immediate delivery to frontal forces, Yakovlev engineers added new features designed in response to "front-line demand" by Red pilots.
Beginning in the summer of 1941, Yak-1s were also fitted with the improved Klimov M-105PA engine, which was more reliable than the M-105P, if still not entirely satisfactory, and could operate in inverted flight and negative-gee maneuvers. A number of winterized Yak-1s, with retractable ski landing gear, white paint, and other cold-weather refinements, were produced in the winter of 1941:1942. The racks for the RS-82 rockets were eliminated from production in the spring of 1942 since they degraded the aircraft's performance. They were replaced by underwing racks for a total of two bombs of up to 100 kilograms (220 pounds) each. However, the Yak-1 simply didn't have enough horsepower to carry that kind of a load well, and in practice it was used as a fighter-bomber only in a pinch.
http://www.airvectors.net/avyak1.html
It would certainly be nice to have one of the three 'modern' fighters that were in service during Barbarossa, and probably the best one, which stayed in service for quite a while afterward, especially considering its close relation to the Yak-3 and the oft-cited lack of effort to model that that entails (at least from the 3D perspective)
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The F4Us are not all that far from current standards, having a lot of detail that the older AH2 models lack such as the 3D bolts in the cockpit. The F4U's also have, to the best of my knowledge, the only articulated tabs in the game.
i was being facetious, i think your list should be knocked out before any AH2 planes start getting make overs.
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i was being facetious, i think your list should be knocked out before any AH2 planes start getting make overs.
:aok
And keep adding new planes & tanks.
I want my boomerang !
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/861081_646876452008680_1266045500_o.jpg)
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Meteor would be awesome to :neener:
and my 190g :furious
+1 for quad spit v :D