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Title: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: ABDCWOT on July 23, 2013, 01:10:28 PM
Anyone loan me a few coins? http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!bf-109e/c7r0

-ab
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: bagrat on July 24, 2013, 01:24:07 PM
if we donate, u promise to share it?   :D
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: SIK1 on July 24, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
Well for the price of the 109 you can get the FM2, TBM, and the Skyraider, with money left over for gas and insurance.
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: GScholz on July 24, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
Being the single, unique, last and only flying example left does something to the value, yes.
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: SIK1 on July 24, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
Being the single, unique, last and only flying example left does something to the value, yes.

Most certainly. I would love to be able to own it, but would be very hesitant to actually fly it if I did. For the very reasons you mentioned. Especially with the reputation the 109's have for landing accidents.
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: GScholz on July 24, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
It's also a very nice paintjob in "Jochen's" colors.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzUUlO6ihwE
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: GScholz on July 24, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
Especially with the reputation the 109's have for landing accidents.

Alway three-point it, and always on grass or dirt. Never on tarmac. Follow those rules and any 109 is perfectly safe. They were designed to operate from rough front line airfields like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp4ChYkkGSg
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: GScholz on July 24, 2013, 02:46:21 PM
How to land a 109. Even in cross winds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO9mEv5Ve54
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: SIK1 on July 24, 2013, 03:00:26 PM
Alway three-point it, and always on grass or dirt. Never on tarmac. Follow those rules and any 109 is perfectly safe. They were designed to operate from rough front line airfields like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp4ChYkkGSg

Well from what I have read more 109's were lost to landing accidents than to combat, so I'm not too sure about perfectly safe.

I love the DB powered 109's and wish I was wealthy enough to own and fly one.

On a side note according to the bio on the Platinum Fighters page this airframe was actually flown by Marseille so that would definitely add to the value.
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: Volron on July 24, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
How to land a 109. Even in cross winds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO9mEv5Ve54

His 2nd landing was FAR better than his 1st.
Title: Re: Bf 109E-3 for sale
Post by: GScholz on July 24, 2013, 03:15:35 PM
Well from what I have read more 109's were lost to landing accidents than to combat, so I'm not too sure about perfectly safe.

Which is just nonsense. The Germans didn't lose more 109s in landing accidents than other single-engined types; about 5% were write-offs. The hugely inflated number that somehow keep circulating is based on misinterpretation of German documents where all damaged aircraft were somehow counted as written off.

I'm still baffled that people think the Luftwaffe would have accepted into service a front line fighter that was unsafe to land and did nothing to remedy this supposed lethal flaw in the 28 years the 109 was in service with various air forces. From 1937 to 1944 there wasn't even a two-seat trainer version, so student pilots had to solo their first 109 flight.