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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: alpini13 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:43 PM
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I just noticed this in the hangar, and was wondering why. the new yak-3 does not have bombs or rockets,heck,it doesent even have a drop tank,but it can be flown in fighter or attack mode. if this is going to be standard,when will they change the ta-152,bf-109k-4,c-205,and bf-109f???
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if this is going to be standard,when will they change the ta-152,bf-109k-4,c-205,and bf-109f???
Was wondering the same thing. I'm sure there isn't any change in any standard coming.
The current standard (it was changed to this couple years ago) seems to be that if the plane has any air to ground ordnance it has the choise to score the sortie in the attack category, if not it won't.
I'm sure it'll get changed.
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Even if they don't, it's an easy player choice to avoid. :D
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Even if they don't, it's an easy player choice to avoid. :D
I think that all fighters should be able to be flown in attack mode. Why not? I killed a Hetzer with a Yak-3 on a single gun pass.....
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I think that all fighters should be able to be flown in attack mode.
So do I. I use my plane to attack other aircraft. :devil
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I want to fly the C-47 in attack mode :old:!
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Good question........
I take the point that all fighters might be available in attack mode.
IMO if rockets or bombs are loaded then Attack should be "forced" to "ON".
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IMO if rockets or bombs are loaded then Attack should be "forced" to "ON".
Why?
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Why?
Agreed. Leave it the player's option. That way the imaginary bombs on the Yak-3 can count as imaginary fighter points instead of imaginary attack points when dropped on other planes. :)
(actually I believe I like the 'all fighters can be designated 'attack' mentality)
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Agreed
With what? I didn't give any opinion on that matter, I just asked a question :P
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With what? I didn't give any opinion on that matter, I just asked a question :P
Agreed. :P
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:furious
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I think aircraft that were designed **and used** for a specific role should be classified as such. If the plane didn't have hard points for ordnance and the units in which they flew in did not partake in ground operations (moving dirt), then shouldn't they be classified as "fighters"?
There are few aircraft that are truly absolute (in terms of AH fighter, attack, or bomber classification). The B29 is one of them (bomber). The Ta152 and Me163 are another (fighter). The IL-2 is yet another (attack, i.e.: direct fire support). Aircraft like the Spit 16 were meant to be used as a direct fire support ground attack plane (gasp!), yet it derived from one of the best dog fighters in WWII.
As the war went on more and more planes were used to attack ground targets because the Axis had fewer and fewer planes.
I don't know why HTC classified the Yak-3 as a combo plane, but that is their prerogative. I think having the Spit 1,5, and 9 as fighter and the Spit 8 and 16 and fighter/attack is proper though. I'm not up enough on the different Yaks to comment historically speaking, but I'd be willing to bet that the Yak-9U was used more exclusively for fighter duty over the Yak-3 simply because there were more Luftwaffe planes to combat when the Yak-9x's were in the air vs when the Yak-3 was in the air, figuratively anyways. Just a guess.
Also... just because a player can up a Yak-x and kill a gv does not make it a combo plane. Just because a tank uses the main gun to bring down a plane does not make it an AA platform. :aok
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i dont think"prerogative" as you say has anything to do with it.... i was wondering if a mistake had been made,or if there was going to be a change to other fighter aircraft as well. i had noticed that aircraft with bombs or rockets that were fighters,could also be flown in attack mode......but the yak-3 has no bombs,rockets or drop tank......like other fighter only mode aircraft.yet they do not have the attack mode.
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maybe with it being more of a tactical A/C, there is some expectation that people will use it to de ack or take down M3's jeeps, not saying it might not be a mistake, just throwing ideas out there :)
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"Swastika in the gun sight" has several accounts where by VVS "fighters" have strafed enemy ground targets when there is no other air borne targets and hey are about to rtb.
So historically one could argue that any fighter can adopt an attack role even if its only against jeeps and M3's.
For my part if if someone loads ord then they intend to carry out an "attack" function, so it seems logical that the mission should be scored as attack. It's tidy and indeed helpful such that players will by default be awarded score in the role they launch in.
In addition ( and separately) I also opine that there should one day be attack perks..... This would end the confusion of where perks go when bombing stuff from an attack plane or heavy fighter. Right now attack perks would not be very useful but when/ if perked ordinance arrives then attack perks will be central to the ability to which ord can be selected when taking either a pure attack ac or using a "fighter" in an attack role.
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I just noticed this in the hangar, and was wondering why. the new yak-3 does not have bombs or rockets,heck,it doesent even have a drop tank,but it can be flown in fighter or attack mode. if this is going to be standard,when will they change the ta-152,bf-109k-4,c-205,and bf-109f???
Why does it matter?
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Why does it matter?
exactly...
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"Yak-3 can no longer be flown in attack sorties."
:)
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"Yak-3 can no longer be flown in attack sorties."
:)
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So tough luck if you go on ack and convoy runs in Yak 3 or Me 262, etc?
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:confused: No more Jabo Yako?