Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Rino on July 25, 2013, 08:19:15 PM

Title: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Rino on July 25, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
     It turns out the US Marines had a hand in it  :D  Sasebo Airfield November 2, 1945.
If we only had a time machine...

(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/f4ephantom/Okinawaplanes.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Megalodon on July 25, 2013, 08:23:20 PM
     It turns out the US Marines had a hand in it  :D  Sasebo Airfield November 2, 1945.
If we only had a time machine...

(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/f4ephantom/Okinawaplanes.jpg)

 God ....I would So Love a time machine  :aok

 :pray
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: GScholz on July 25, 2013, 08:41:45 PM
They did that with German AC, vehicles and other equipment in Europe too. Can't have all that nice Axis gear lying around for the liberated nations to use... Not when the Allies has lots of surplus equipment that needs selling now that the war is over. Merchantising, merchantising.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Arlo on July 25, 2013, 09:08:48 PM
(http://webspace.webring.com/people/js/skythe_99/s199.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: SIK1 on July 25, 2013, 09:10:46 PM
(http://webspace.webring.com/people/js/skythe_99/s199.jpg)

Talk about irony.
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: GScholz on July 25, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
(http://webspace.webring.com/people/js/skythe_99/s199.jpg)

Communist Czechoslovakia was out of reach...
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Megalodon on July 25, 2013, 11:25:45 PM
Talk about irony.


 Arlo's version of a time machine... those were actually pretty cool ....Spain had a few as well  they called them Ha 1112?  :aok

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrO1Ndp-hN1e5ntmxh5hNF57lkH5wlqkIwe44NSYzVOqaji9rj)
Avia S-199,

I'll raise him a
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz281/Megalodon2/C4K_zps0ea7203c.jpg)


 :D

Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Rino on July 26, 2013, 06:44:59 AM
     Israel's "109s" were actually Czech Avia S199s.  They had some issues and the only reason the
Israelis used them was because it was what they could get.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_S-199 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_S-199)
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Rino on July 26, 2013, 06:52:19 AM
They did that with German AC, vehicles and other equipment in Europe too. Can't have all that nice Axis gear lying around for the liberated nations to use... Not when the Allies has lots of surplus equipment that needs selling now that the war is over. Merchantising, merchantising.

      It wasn't just Axis equipment.  Here a picture shows one of the German workers hired to destroy
surplus US equipment after the war's end,  It turns out it wasn't cost effective to move them back to
the states, so boom....goodbye. 

(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/f4ephantom/Endofwar51s.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Scherf on July 26, 2013, 07:56:05 AM
Most of the Mossies ever built eventually went up in smoke. KA114 had the advantage of lying about on a farm in B.C. instead of burning. The FB.VI being rebuilt at the Mosquito Museum uses a wing whicn was previously a plaything on a Kibbutz (I kid you not).
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Wmaker on July 26, 2013, 08:04:48 AM
Slightly OT but similar history...

End of the line for couple last surviving Brewsters in the FiAF:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Brewster_F2A-1_Saukonpuiston_leikkikent%C3%A4ll%C3%A4.jpg)
http://commons.wikimedia.org (http://commons.wikimedia.org)

Probably ended up getting more punishment as a playground attraction than against VVS. :)
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Karnak on July 26, 2013, 08:13:08 AM
I've seen a photo of brand new P-38s, never flown in combat, bulldozed into a pile.

I recall reading that Spitfires were offered for 100 after the war and there were no takers.  I'm not sure that story is true, but...
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: RotBaron on July 26, 2013, 09:08:26 AM
Maybe it was humility or maybe it was the inability to recognize, but the "greatest generation" failed in many ways to make good accounts regarding the war. Maybe they were also just tired and ready to move on. Thankfully there were enough that saved some very historic pieces from their demise. With as many ac built by the US we could have a small museum in every major airport, with a F4U, P40, 47, 51, 38 and many others present at each location. But what we have a are a handful that are preserved to the point where they can fly around the country doing shows because another one doesn't exist for 500miles.

What a shame for us, but as I often find when interviewing WW2 veterans, they just don't think they did anything all that important. I knew one vet whose ship was strafed by A6M's several times, to include downing a couple of them, and he thought "no big deal..."
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: Zacherof on July 27, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
I've seen a photo of brand new P-38s, never flown in combat, bulldozed into a pile.

I recall reading that Spitfires were offered for 100 after the war and there were no takers.  I'm not sure that story is true, but...
Now I want a time machine
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: caldera on July 27, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
Not sure if it's true, but I heard they pushed brand new Bearcats into the sea, to save fuel for the trip back to the states.  :bhead  :furious
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: danmac on July 27, 2013, 07:57:39 PM
My boss at the fbo I work at said back in the day they sold war birds for 600 bucks ready to fly and people bought em to melt em down  they made more money as scrap then flying ac they also told me a story about a squadron of 51s on a farm in Montana or something and the new owner had em all scraped cuz they looked ugly on his property
Title: Re: Ever wonder why so few Japanese warbirds out there?
Post by: aztec on July 29, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
 no