Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: jd on July 30, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
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http://www.wimp.com/approachlanding/
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Nice :aok
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Some of the terrain, particularly early in the flight over Marin County made me a bit homesick.
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Pretty amazing airplane. To bad it was built at the time it was with the market as it is. The A380 will probably never break even, which is a shame cause it was quite an achievement. The plane actually looks like its flying itself.
Ive never seen one. Just once I'd like to fly in one.
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Well, it's not quite as bleak as that Rich... They have a backlog of five years worth of production with 160 A380s on the books. They planned for break-even to occur in 2015, but that is becoming a challenge. They still need a “single-digit number” of production slots for the type in 2015 to break-even that year.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/avd_05_15_2013_p01-01-578735.xml
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Well, it's not quite as bleak as that Rich... They have a backlog of five years worth of production with 160 A380s on the books. They planned for break-even to occur in 2015, but that is becoming a challenge. They still need a “single-digit number” of production slots for the type in 2015 to break-even that year.
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/avd_05_15_2013_p01-01-578735.xml
I did not read the link... But...
The A380 will probably never break even on an overall program level. The initial target was to break even after 250 aircraft. Then that was changed to be like 450ish. It has since been changed to an unspecified number, estimated to be above 600 units.
The break even point they talk about in 2015 is not program break even, but instead production break even. Meaning every plane up until that date in 2015(both past and future deliveries) has cost airbus more to manufacture than the amount they were paid for the plane by the respective airline. Only then will airbus start seeing profits on each aircraft rolling off the line.
Likewise, the 787 is sort of in the same boat, but it will break even and then some on the entire program level. The 787 program break even point is around 1100 units with production break even occurring in 2015 as well.
It was a cool video though. I wonder how long LH spent preparing to capture this with so many different views in the video.
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"Slowing Demand Leaves Airbus With Challenge To Break-Even On A380 Program In 2015"
That's the title of the article.
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"Slowing Demand Leaves Airbus With Challenge To Break-Even On A380 Program In 2015"
That's the title of the article.
they are still only talking about production break even, Not program.
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The 787 has almost 1,000 orders. The A350 is doing very well also.
Unfortunatly for the A380 the market is very much focused toward mid size air frames. Even the long hauls. Boeing is feeling the pinch as well with its latest 747 version. Its just not a good time for Jumbos.
Im wondering whats happening with the A400M. Again a heck of an airplane but also a big risk, assuming that is there is a market for a military cargo turbo-Prop of that size. Like all new designs it had a lot of teething problems as well.