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Title: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ozrocker on August 05, 2013, 08:50:13 PM
Anyone interested in area. Runs great, all power 5.4 L XLT. Lots of newer parts.
Over 1k in stereo installed. 128k miles. 3rd Row seat. $3500.00 OBO


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Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ozrocker on August 09, 2013, 10:14:09 AM
Nobody with a bunch of kids needs a great reliable truck?
All power, Tow package, power inverters, Ice cold air.
Average price with much higher miles is 5200.00
I gotta sacrifice for $3500 (or 3000.00 without stereo equipment)
Oldest Daughter getting married, so truck has to go.
Runs, looks great. No issues mechanically. No dents/rust.


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Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: bigsky on August 09, 2013, 03:12:52 PM
Yes but the truck touched NJ soil, that taints it forever.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Dragon on August 09, 2013, 04:00:35 PM
Yes but the truck touched NJ soil, that taints it forever.

 :rofl :rofl



Our Land Rover just decided to start dying a slow painful death.  We were looking for something newer, but.... I'll let you know what the wife says.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: AAJagerX on August 09, 2013, 08:15:40 PM
Too bad you're not closer to Iowa.  I could have that truck sold in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: uptown on August 09, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
Too bad you're not closer to Iowa.  I could have that truck sold in a heartbeat.
Ditto
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 09, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Anyone interested in area. Runs great, all power 5.4 L XLT. Lots of newer parts.
Over 1k in stereo installed. 128k miles. 3rd Row seat. $3500.00 OBO


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 any more details on it? which 5.4? i think there were 2 different ones.......does it have air suspension? if so, does it work right? how's the balljoints? and where in nj is ya?
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Dimebag on August 09, 2013, 09:46:24 PM
thats the 4.6 that has 2 different engines. windsor and romeo

Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: dedalos on August 09, 2013, 11:21:21 PM
Silly question. Why dont yiu drive it to a carmax and see how much they offer?
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 09, 2013, 11:25:30 PM
thats the 4.6 that has 2 different engines. windsor and romeo



 i was pretty sure there were a couple different 5.4's too....some of them tended to break spark plugs in the heads....
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: WEZEL on August 10, 2013, 12:10:20 AM
3 different 5.4's over the years  since it is a 2000 it should be a 5.4 2 valve, same as the 4.6 just a bigger bore and cam's changed. Cap 5.4 & 4.6 3 valve are the crap ones that have the spark plug problem, I dread changing plugs on them but I know a few tricks  to do them and most of the time wont break them off in the head.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 10, 2013, 07:56:27 AM
3 different 5.4's over the years  since it is a 2000 it should be a 5.4 2 valve, same as the 4.6 just a bigger bore and cam's changed. Cap 5.4 & 4.6 3 valve are the crap ones that have the spark plug problem, I dread changing plugs on them but I know a few tricks  to do them and most of the time wont break them off in the head.

 i've actually been lucky, and never broken any myself. i've had a few come in over the years, that i'd have to install one of the different repair kits for though.

 i had an 01 in here last week, random/multiple misfire. had 2 bad coilpacks, and the plugs looked o.e. when i told my mechanic we were doing all of the plugs, his face went white, as he was afraid he was gonna break the plugs off, lololol.

 i love my fords, but it's stupid crap like that spark plug problem that really makes it hard to stand by them........
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ozrocker on August 10, 2013, 08:15:43 AM
Yes but the truck touched NJ soil, that taints it forever.
:rofl :rofl

Not sure about different 5.4's. I know it's a Triton 5.4 (330CI). Runs great. No leaks, no knocks.
AWD/4WD 3.73 rear. No air suspension (that I know of, lol)

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Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 11, 2013, 01:55:18 AM
The 4.6 in my F150 take's all day to change the plug's and if your a big person forget getting to the back plug's .
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Slash27 on August 11, 2013, 09:46:09 AM
Nice ride Oz. I wouldn't mind having it at all, I just don't think I could swing it right now.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Masherbrum on August 11, 2013, 11:07:31 PM
thats the 4.6 that has 2 different engines. windsor and romeo
The only two major differences between the two are a 6 or 8 bolt flywheel and with or without an oil cooler.  


As for the 5.4L, most are Engine ID specific (prod. date).  Cap was thinking of the 1999's, when there were three different 5.4's.   The only difference in the the 5.4's are that one was supercharged in the Lightning and does not apply to thread...........
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 12, 2013, 04:29:06 AM
Yeah my 4.6 had a big W on the block after I dropped the trans
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Dragon on August 12, 2013, 07:02:42 AM
Sorry Oz, the wife fell in love Saturday with what is now our new ride.....a 2014 Jeep Compass Latitude.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Masherbrum on August 12, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
Sorry Oz, the wife fell in love Saturday with what is now our new ride.....a 2014 Jeep Compass Latitude.

Good luck if it has a 3.7. 
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Dimebag on August 12, 2013, 06:15:33 PM
Good luck if it has a 3.7. 

lol anything chrysler that ends in .7 is  :cry
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 12, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
Ozrocker , have you tried to place an add on CL ?
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Masherbrum on August 12, 2013, 08:55:41 PM
lol anything chrysler that ends in .7 is  :cry

Yep.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Dragon on August 13, 2013, 07:21:40 AM
Good luck if it has a 3.7. 

LOL, um....no.  It's got the baby 2.0 I4 with 158 tire shredding HP.   :cry
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Masherbrum on August 13, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
LOL, um....no.  It's got the baby 2.0 I4 with 158 tire shredding HP.   :cry

Dunno.   IIRC the Compass only gets a 3 star rating in Frontals, which is not that good.    The upside is they should have the 6 speed in the Latitude.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Dragon on August 14, 2013, 10:02:18 AM
Well then I'll tell Sue to only ram people with the rear of the car.

Who, at our age, looks at crash reports before buying a car?  Your family is young so you should.  Nobody would care if my old bellybutton died since they are able to take care of themselves.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 14, 2013, 09:54:29 PM
personally, i don't look at things like crash reports. i look at performance numbers, and whether or not i like it.

 what good is a shoebox that has the highest safety ratings in every catagory, if i can't stand to drive the pos?
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: icepac on August 15, 2013, 12:38:04 AM
If you're quick and can change plugs when the engine is hot, the holes are "larger" because aluminum expands at a higher rate than the steel spark plugs.

This makes the holes slightly larger than when the engine is not fully warmed to 190 degrees.

If they turn initially and start to get tight, spray some penetrant/lubricant down the hole and call the customer to explain the car will take another day.

Then you carefully unscrew them with a swivel spark plug socket to reduce any side loading which will cause them to bind further.

Of course, you can't get the engine hot the next day but the penetrant should make things easier.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 15, 2013, 06:14:59 AM
If you're quick and can change plugs when the engine is hot, the holes are "larger" because aluminum expands at a higher rate than the steel spark plugs.

This makes the holes slightly larger than when the engine is not fully warmed to 190 degrees.

If they turn initially and start to get tight, spray some penetrant/lubricant down the hole and call the customer to explain the car will take another day.

Then you carefully unscrew them with a swivel spark plug socket to reduce any side loading which will cause them to bind further.

Of course, you can't get the engine hot the next day but the penetrant should make things easier.

While getting the block hot may pose a problem, have you tried freezing the spark plug? A few seconds of canned deep freeze directly on the sparky will make a large temperature difference.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 15, 2013, 07:37:23 AM
If you're quick and can change plugs when the engine is hot, the holes are "larger" because aluminum expands at a higher rate than the steel spark plugs.

This makes the holes slightly larger than when the engine is not fully warmed to 190 degrees.

If they turn initially and start to get tight, spray some penetrant/lubricant down the hole and call the customer to explain the car will take another day.

Then you carefully unscrew them with a swivel spark plug socket to reduce any side loading which will cause them to bind further.

Of course, you can't get the engine hot the next day but the penetrant should make things easier.

 doesn't always work. the shop across the street just had 3 break on him.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on August 15, 2013, 07:59:31 AM
doesn't always work. the shop across the street just had 3 break on him.

By the way Mercedes diesel injectors have similar problems, sometimes they just don't want to leave the head. There are 4 to 8 of them depending on engine model, costing around 800 bucks a pop + removal and machining of head 1500ish or replacement for even more.

I still don't think MB is a bad car.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Curval on August 15, 2013, 08:48:04 AM
I am looking to unload a 2010 6.2L 6 speed manual V8 Camaro with a Billy Boat sport exhaust system on it.  Pristine condition, only about 7,000 miles on it, stored when not using...red.

What I may do is ship it to Europe and drive it around the autobaun for a couple of days and unload it there, we'll see.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ACE on August 15, 2013, 11:27:12 AM
 I kinda want a 2013 Duramax.. 
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: WEZEL on August 15, 2013, 06:21:13 PM
I get the motor hot and use an air ratchet or a 3/8 impact gun to get them  out and a snap on 9/16 extra deep plug socket. most of the time spraying dont work. if they are going to snap they are going to snap nothing you can do about it. Since using air tools on them I have broken  just 2 plugs out of about 15 sets so far, using  hand tools and spray the rate was  1 or 2 plugs on every set. Getting the aftermarket broken plug extractor is a big time save also, the one Ford tell us to use bites the weenie.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: icepac on August 15, 2013, 11:56:16 PM
Never broken off a spark plug.

Making sure you have zero side loading and buying yourself time to let penetrant do it's job is worth it.

Nissan single cam V6 will do this as well.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 16, 2013, 07:54:43 AM
Man I hate to even think about breaking a spark plug off . That's a bad word .
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ozrocker on August 16, 2013, 08:45:20 AM
Dropped price to $2500.00
It does need 1 Brake line replaced, but not an expensive fix.
Daughter's Wedding coming up fast, so gotta sell asap.



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Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: dedalos on August 16, 2013, 09:05:47 AM
Dropped price to $2500.00
It does need 1 Brake line replaced, but not an expensive fix.
Daughter's Wedding coming up fast, so gotta sell asap.



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Yo, drive it to a carmax and see what they offer.  If you are right about how much it is worth you should be able to get what you are asking for it.
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 16, 2013, 09:55:35 AM
Wish you was not so far away . Mother need's a ride bad . See crashed her truck last week . Been looking but there so darn high dollar around here .
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: shppr01 on August 16, 2013, 11:10:01 AM
Wish you was not so far away . Mother need's a ride bad . See crashed her truck last week . Been looking but there so darn high dollar around here .
200.00 You buy my flight home and Ill drive it down there for ya .. You also buy the gas !!
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 16, 2013, 02:52:55 PM
I showed it to her and she said we should be able to get something closer . Thanks anyway .
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 16, 2013, 06:55:33 PM
Dropped price to $2500.00
It does need 1 Brake line replaced, but not an expensive fix.
Daughter's Wedding coming up fast, so gotta sell asap.



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dude...where do you live? and to head off the wise cracks from the peanut gallary....i know he's in nj. where in nj?
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: WEZEL on August 16, 2013, 07:34:04 PM
Never broken off a spark plug.

Making sure you have zero side loading and buying yourself time to let penetrant do it's job is worth it.

Nissan single cam V6 will do this as well.

 Icepac I very rarely cracked one either until Ford came out with a piece of poo.... in the pic I posted below, from the plug seat down breaks off and gets stuck in the head due to the carbon build up. I have broken them in new truck with less than 1k on them before anyone even knew there would be a problem with the design of them and before they made extractors to get the broken ones out. so in other words I had to remove the head get the plug out put it back together so I could do the compression test to find a bad valve seat on the opposite bank and remove that head. Now I know what you are going to say, "why did I not pull both heads off wile I was there" but.......it's the Ford way of doing things by the "BOOK" that bites me in the A.r.s.e every time, Ford tech was involved since it was the first few months of the 3v and it had to be don their way.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/40272-2005-mustang-gt-4-6l-3v-substitute-spark-plugs-champion1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/106448-2005-mustang-gt-4-6l-3v-substitute-spark-plugs.html&h=480&w=320&sz=27&tbnid=lYxthwFVWamh9M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=60&zoom=1&usg=__F3eoVTwxG0zSMp2gWpMm3FBze50=&docid=xXWDKf2nPouEcM&sa=X&ei=p8EOUt6cBYKRygGT_YAw&ved=0CEgQ9QEwBQ&dur=676#imgdii=lYxthwFVWamh9M%3A%3BqWd0d3H56PFFGM%3BlYxthwFVWamh9M%3A
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: icepac on August 16, 2013, 08:58:19 PM
Another guy at the shop got scared after he couldn't budge any of the plugs on this car so I got it hot and they came right out.

Basic physics dictates that the hole gets bigger when the metal expands due to heat.

Aluminum expands at a much higher rate than the steel of the spark plugs.

I never use any air tools on spark plugs.

Same guy who couldn't budge the spark plugs ended up wrecking this one last week.

Working in this shop is like trying to take fields with the knights.

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6132/5979112076_fefb702806_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ozrocker on August 16, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
dude...where do you live? and to head off the wise cracks from the peanut gallary....i know he's in nj. where in nj?
Willingboro



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Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 16, 2013, 09:29:21 PM
Willingboro



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 dude...that's right around the corner......and pm responded.......
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: CAP1 on August 16, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
Another guy at the shop got scared after he couldn't budge any of the plugs on this car so I got it hot and they came right out.

Basic physics dictates that the hole gets bigger when the metal expands due to heat.

Aluminum expands at a much higher rate than the steel of the spark plugs.

I never use any air tools on spark plugs.

Same guy who couldn't budge the spark plugs ended up wrecking this one last week.

Working in this shop is like trying to take fields with the knights.

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6132/5979112076_fefb702806_b.jpg)

 in almost 30 years, i've NEVER had a spark plug that wouldn't come out. i've broken the porcelain, i've stripped the threads in a nissan once....but the plugs always came out.

 
Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: ozrocker on August 17, 2013, 08:16:04 AM
Hey Cap,
 Give me a call. I'll bring it down for you to check out.
You're a short ride away.



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Title: Re: Selling my 2000 Expedition
Post by: Flench on August 17, 2013, 10:24:21 AM
Icepac I very rarely cracked one either until Ford came out with a piece of poo.... in the pic I posted below, from the plug seat down breaks off and gets stuck in the head due to the carbon build up. I have broken them in new truck with less than 1k on them before anyone even knew there would be a problem with the design of them and before they made extractors to get the broken ones out. so in other words I had to remove the head get the plug out put it back together so I could do the compression test to find a bad valve seat on the opposite bank and remove that head. Now I know what you are going to say, "why did I not pull both heads off wile I was there" but.......it's the Ford way of doing things by the "BOOK" that bites me in the A.r.s.e every time, Ford tech was involved since it was the first few months of the 3v and it had to be don their way.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/40272-2005-mustang-gt-4-6l-3v-substitute-spark-plugs-champion1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/106448-2005-mustang-gt-4-6l-3v-substitute-spark-plugs.html&h=480&w=320&sz=27&tbnid=lYxthwFVWamh9M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=60&zoom=1&usg=__F3eoVTwxG0zSMp2gWpMm3FBze50=&docid=xXWDKf2nPouEcM&sa=X&ei=p8EOUt6cBYKRygGT_YAw&ved=0CEgQ9QEwBQ&dur=676#imgdii=lYxthwFVWamh9M%3A%3BqWd0d3H56PFFGM%3BlYxthwFVWamh9M%3A
Why I went back with a crate motor . If I was going to do all that mite as well . Got the motor for 1.500 . It had been setting in a guy's shop for a year . The man never came after it so I got it .