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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Randall172 on August 09, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
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I mean hey we've got the Ta152 and Me163, why not a F8F technically it entered service Feburary of 1945. This plane would be awesome! :banana: :x
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+1 :aok Yes it would. Would really love to have her as that's a lot of firepower.
Now I can bet 5 bucks someone's going to come along and say either the 152 shouldn't even be here, and why the F7 shouldn't be added
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The war ended before the F8F even deployed in the combat zone.
And Zach, the Bearcat had the same armament as the FM-2. So while decent, that's not a lot of firepower.
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The war ended before the F8F even deployed in the combat zone.
And Zach, the Bearcat had the same armament as the FM-2. So while decent, that's not a lot of firepower.
He was probably referring to the F8F-1B with the 20mm cannons
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He was probably referring to the F8F-1B with the 20mm cannons
Oh, you mean the one that I don't think even FLEW until after the war?
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I actually misread the op by referring to the F7 which had quad 50's and 20mm guns.
F8 had small armament. Same as 51b and fm2.
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The war ended before the F8F even deployed in the combat zone.
Agreed. They had P-80s operational in Italy before they had Bearcats operational anywhere.
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Agreed. They had P-80s operational in Italy before they had Bearcats operational anywhere.
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No they didn't. Two YP-80s were sent to the UK and two to Italy for service pilots to give feedback on. They were not operational at all and were not used in combat. They were in the UK and Italy because that is where the pilots were, not to be in proximity to the Germans.
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The Bearcat had 4 m3 20mm in addition to the armament of 4 .50 cals
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The Bearcat had 4 m3 20mm in addition to the armament of 4 .50 cals
Not the one that almost made it into WWII. That one had four M2 .50s and nothing else.
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The Bearcat had 4 m3 20mm in addition to the armament of 4 .50 cals
That's the F7F Tigercat, different plane.
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That's the F7F Tigercat, different plane.
A more sexy plane IMO
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That's the F7F Tigercat, different plane.
well maybe wikipedia isn't the best source but the 1b and 2 models featured 4 20mm cannons as apposed to the 50 cals
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well maybe wikipedia isn't the best source but the 1b and 2 models featured 4 20mm cannons as apposed to the 50 cals
Moot point, anyway, because it was F8F-1s en route to the theater when the war ended. Operative part of that phrase being EN ROUTE. Meaning not in-theater.
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well maybe wikipedia isn't the best source but the 1b and 2 models featured 4 20mm cannons as apposed to the 50 cals
You mean the Wiki article that says:
"The F8F prototypes were ordered in November 1943 and first flew on 21 August 1944, a mere nine months later.[N 1] The first production aircraft was delivered in February 1945 and the first squadron, Fighter Squadron 19 (VF-19) [equipped with F8F-1s - Arlo], was operational by 21 May 1945, but World War II was over before the aircraft saw combat service."
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"First combat
The first combat for the F8F Bearcat was during the French Indochina War (aka First Indochina War 1946-1954) when nearly 200 Bearcats were delivered to the French forces in 1951. When the war ended in 1954, 28 surviving Bearcats were supplied to the new South Vietnamese Air Force and entered service in 1956.[15] The SVAF retired their F8Fs in 1959 which were replaced by North American T-28 Trojans, then later Douglas A-1 Skyraiders as the Vietnam War (aka Second Indochina War 1957–1975) continued through the 1960s. F8Fs were also supplied to Thailand during the same time period.[16][17][18]"
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"F8F-1 Bearcat
Single-seat fighter aircraft, equipped with folding wings, a retractable tailwheel, self-sealing fuel tanks, a very small dorsal fin, powered by a 2,100 hp (1,566 kW) Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W Double Wasp radial piston engine, armed with four 0.50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns, 658 built. "
... that Wiki article?
:D
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well maybe wikipedia isn't the best source but the 1b and 2 models featured 4 20mm cannons as apposed to the 50 cals
"as opposed" is not the same as "in addition" :P
No Bearcat had both.
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While I love the F8F:
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No to post war / secret weapons of the Luftwaffe / fantasy planes. We do not need more super prop planes. There are enough early and mid war planes missing and planes we already have that need an overhaul.
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weren't the F8F-1 50 cals firing with 33% more ROF?
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How many Bearcats can dance on the head of a pin? ;)
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pictures plz i'm lazy
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While it would be nice to have something that I'd want spend perks on, I'd have to agree with the consensus here that the Bearcat has no place in AH as it is currently formulated.
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How many Bearcats can dance on the head of a pin? ;)
Would that be European Bearcats or African Bearcat,if African well 3 of course!
:salute
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The F8F-1 didn't see combat... It was, however, in theater... VF-19 was a board a CVL, one day west of Pearl Harbor when Japan threw in the towel. That was considered to be in the Central Pacific Theater of Operations. Hawaii was within that theater. Of course, the only recognized threat was Japanese subs....
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pictures plz i'm lazy
Better than a Picture bro!!!
http://youtu.be/4XcI1RCXXJU
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There are so many planes that were used from 1943 onwards that could be added, so it never makes sense to me personally, to include planes that were pretty uncommon or barely saw combat in comparison to other more likely choices, if you are trying to make an accurate representation of planes in 1943-1945. USN seems massively popular in AH, but they are all single-engined. It would be nice to have Venturas, Hudsons, Catalinas etc first, these aircraft saw far more service and varied types of roles.
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In many ways, the Grumman F8F Bearcat was the pinnacle of United States piston-engine fighter design. The aircraft arrived within the waning months of World War 2, missing combat action in all theaters altogether, but still managed to leave a legacy of power and performance even with the advent of the jet age. Its powerful Double Wasp radial piston engine and thoughtful design made for an excellent aircraft and one is left to his/his imagination as to the impact such a fighter would have had would it have shown up in time for combat in history's greatest airborne confrontations.
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+1 - I like would like one.
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i don't see a reason why it should be, unless you want to put it a cv and be unselectable.
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Mute point guys!!! IT had NO None Nodia COMBAT Service. :old: -10 Ta-152 ME-163 Spit XVI all saw combat service.
Sooner like to see P-80 Gloster Meteor . :pray
BF109s updated. :x
And maybe some early war French Planes. As of now I believe no French planes that were Developed by France are avalible. :banana:
Now if HTC would develop a post war arena then yes I could see. But that would include everything to 1955 which would mean Mig-15's and F-86's. :x.
But before you slam on this in the thread consider :rolleyes: We have WWI WWII. Just throwing a idea out there HTC in maybe 3-4 more years. Maybe the community would be ready for a refresher...
HT just this as a feedback card at those restaurants.. I would prefer to see the planes that are currently here get updated first. :x
Ok guys go ahead and poke holes in my Ballon :bolt:
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Sooner like to see P-80
Ah you might want to look into that one.
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Why
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bump
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The one that made it into WWII with the 4x50 cals would be fine thanks.