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Title: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Latrobe on August 19, 2013, 05:47:31 AM
Taadaaa! I finished my tailslide video. What an absolute nightmare it was trying to do a live commentary during the first part while flying the plane.  :bolt:

Hopefully this answers some of your questions on how I fly backwards  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSc49CLaC2I




I'm thinking of starting a new series where I take a look at other players fights and review it for them telling them what they did right and what they did wrong and where they can improve. I'm not sure how well this would go so if anyone has film of a fight that I can try this out with then that'd be great. I think I could use ahfilm, but it'd be better if it was recorded with your views so I know what you were looking at.  :salute
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Randy1 on August 19, 2013, 06:27:40 AM
I have never seen a better instructional video.  Well done.

I fly a P38.  It will be interesting to try.  Even if I can't do it , I now understand what happens when I see the move. :salute
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: R 105 on August 19, 2013, 07:57:03 AM
 :salute Nice job thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: GhostCDB on August 19, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
I have never seen a better instructional video.  Well done.

I fly a P38.  It will be interesting to try.  Even if I can't do it , I now understand what happens when I see the move. :salute

Can't tail slide in a P38, due to the counter prop rotation
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Latrobe on August 19, 2013, 08:58:42 AM
Can't tail slide in a P38, due to the counter prop rotation

But they such hammerhead nicely.  :aok
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Zacherof on August 19, 2013, 12:09:08 PM
Well done!!! :aok
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Schen on August 19, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
 :aok :cheers: :salute
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Nath[BDP] on August 19, 2013, 03:12:26 PM
Dude no offence but put some pants and socks on.  I  nearly  puked when i saw  footstains on your pedals. 
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Aspen on August 19, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Great, now when I know its Latrobe I'm fighting, I have to try and block out the image of his feet along with trying to keep his nose off me while he's flying backwards.

Very well done video. :D
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: kano on August 19, 2013, 05:14:54 PM
nice tutorial bud  :aok

EatG
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: WEZEL on August 19, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
For Gods sake put some sock on man......All kidding aside that was a great tutorial and the 3 views was an awesome idea you can see everything you do to pull off the move. I am looking forward to any future tutorials you do  :salute

One more thing how did you get the film viewer to show your flight path?
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: mbailey on August 19, 2013, 07:17:12 PM
For someone that said they dont explain things very well.....you sure did a hell of a good job explaining it  :aok
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: -ammo- on August 20, 2013, 04:52:18 AM
I agree with the other posters - excellent tutorial and explained well!

Thank you very much!

I think this last ditch maneuver works much better with AC that accelerate well, like a 109, spit, etc.  to get results out of a P-47, you have a very brief opportunity to get your shot off after the overshoot against 90% of the AC you face in the MA.
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Latrobe on August 20, 2013, 06:37:38 AM
For Gods sake put some sock on man......All kidding aside that was a great tutorial and the 3 views was an awesome idea you can see everything you do to pull off the move. I am looking forward to any future tutorials you do  :salute

One more thing how did you get the film viewer to show your flight path?

I don't own any socks. I'm a very poor person.  ;)

On the right side of the film viewer you'll see 4 boxes you can check: guncam, icons, use redorded views, and trails.   Trails will show you the paths.
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: WEZEL on August 20, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
Thanks  :salute
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: uptown on August 20, 2013, 08:52:01 PM
For someone that said they dont explain things very well.....you sure did a hell of a good job explaining it  :aok
+1  :aok
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: JOACH1M on August 20, 2013, 10:38:18 PM
Well ill be waiting to :ahand the lemmings trying to do this move every 10 seconds of a fight!  :rofl


Good video though  :aok
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: icepac on August 21, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
In real life you would have an almost instantaneous spin the second you pull back on the stick the least bit with that much rudder fed in.
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 21, 2013, 02:13:30 PM
Can't tail slide in a P38, due to the counter prop rotation

You can do a tailslide in a P-38 in this game.  It's not hard at all, just need to extend your zoom to the point of stall and you can pretty much let gravity do the work for you, the only thing you need to do is keep the nose up as you start to slide downward on your tail and then just let your nose flip over as you slide downwards.  Just like in this maneuver diagram.

(http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/images/wd-tailslide.gif)

ack-ack
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Nath[BDP] on August 21, 2013, 04:55:17 PM
In real life you would have an almost instantaneous spin the second you pull back on the stick the least bit with that much rudder fed in.

Exactly.  This is nothing more than a flight model loophole.  In the old days of Aces High this was not possible but became easily done whe the FM was changed around 2007/08
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: BluBerry on August 21, 2013, 07:13:07 PM
I don't own any socks. I'm a very poor person.  ;)

On the right side of the film viewer you'll see 4 boxes you can check: guncam, icons, use redorded views, and trails.   Trails will show you the paths.

Poor people don't have marble desks..

 :noid
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Latrobe on August 21, 2013, 07:18:20 PM
Poor people don't have marble desks..

 :noid

I wasn't always poor. I am now. Partly thanks to a marble desk I bought.  :)
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: FTJR on August 21, 2013, 09:46:47 PM
Nice Video Latrobe, thanks for putting in the effort
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Zacherof on August 22, 2013, 12:54:41 AM
You can do a tailslide in a P-38 in this game.  It's not hard at all, just need to extend your zoom to the point of stall and you can pretty much let gravity do the work for you, the only thing you need to do is keep the nose up as you start to slide downward on your tail and then just let your nose flip over as you slide downwards.  Just like in this maneuver diagram.

(http://www.aerobatics.org.uk/images/wd-tailslide.gif)

ack-ack
Since this it the case the maneuver that some of us do isn't correctly dubbed a tail slide.
Would you happen to know the correct term?
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: wpeters on August 22, 2013, 02:46:53 PM
I loved the vid was extremely helpful. Maybe i wont have  :ahand to me so much in stall fights :bolt:
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: xxIENAxx on August 22, 2013, 06:20:26 PM
 :aok Again great job Latrobe, thank you and keep them coming   :salute





IENA
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: shoresroad on August 22, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
Great tutorial video, Latrobe!  Well done and hope to see more of them from you!

Badger :salute
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: bozon on August 23, 2013, 09:28:04 AM
Wow girl, shave your legs!  :O

Good tutorial and especially good that you emphasized the limited use of this move.
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Chalenge on August 29, 2013, 04:53:23 AM
This is not really a maneuver, but I'm not really agreeing with Nath either. This is more of a departure stall, into a secondary stall. In other words, it's a screw up that might save you, except it's actually two screw ups in a row.

So, you might dub it the double-pork, or you might just look up "over the top stall." Just saying.
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: Bruv119 on August 29, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
excellent idea with the 2 cameras!   (smurfy legs btw)

It is difficult to explain what inputs are needed for which moves but I will say the best and most effective ones use very short crisp movements that snap the plane into said stall / slide, then regain control.  It still takes countless hours of practice and experience to perform perfect stall turns, slides and whips.  Also the timing and application of each loop and stall.   Attempting it at the wrong time or wrong separation from your opponent can have very different outcomes.

I guess what I'm saying is be a one trick pony at your peril. 
Title: Re: Tailslide Tutorial: How to fly sideways!
Post by: pipz on August 31, 2013, 08:23:49 AM
Very well done. :aok