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Title: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 03, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
Me personally, I think it should be 8.

I don't use the L for dogfighting, or anything really. I am a fan of the J Model simply because from my Midwar flying, the J and the G are the only things available so I use the J. Anyways, why do I think it should be 8 ENY? Because the Bishop use it so much it has become annoying. When the Bish country is outnumbering every country by enough to where the eny is 9 or even 10, it doesn't prevent them from upping a horde of P38L's. The L is a huge target and it isn't very hard to shoot down, in my opinion. I guess it depends on the pilot.

I don't know why the Bishop use P38's, I assume because it is fast and has a good eny. I am clue-less, it is a great dive bomber but the Bish make them great yard decorations. The amount of P38's that auger in a flakhapy or ghi mission is kind of funny. Or maybe they do it because the P38 is fast and has a good climb rate, but I have noticed that when the numbers are against the Bishop they use aircraft like the NIKI (8 eny I do believe),Typhoon (8ENY as well I think), LA7 and Lancasters. . .But when they have everybody and their grandad flying on their country they will with no doubt use the P38 because ENY won't allow the NIKI Typhoon and LA7. Maybe I am wrong, I don't know. Just thought maybe they should decrease the ENY to 8 on the P38L and make the Bishop get a little more creative with their hordes and stop making the P38's lawndarts.

Insight from other players, maybe ? No ? Okay :)

Let the flaming begin? Maybe ? Yes? Figures


 :salute
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: uptown on September 03, 2013, 09:24:01 PM
I get wood when I see a mass of heavy 38s flown by lemmings. Please don't mess with my woodage.  :salute
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 03, 2013, 09:24:37 PM
I get wood when I see a mass of heavy 38s. Please don't mess with my woodage.  :salute

You chop wood in your backyard too?   :cheers:

 :salute
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: skorpx1 on September 03, 2013, 09:27:51 PM
But if the P38 gets lower ENY then people wont be able to pad their scores by upping a Spit8 and going to town on all of them.


Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: uptown on September 03, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
You chop wood in your backyard too?   :cheers:

 :salute
I prefer to chop my wood indoors...but that's just me  :D

The neighbors tend to get alarmed when I whip out my splitting maul out in the yard.  :O
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 03, 2013, 09:54:24 PM
I prefer to chop my wood indoors...but that's just me  :D

The neighbors tend to get alarmed when I whip out my splitting maul out in the yard.  :O
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: guncrasher on September 03, 2013, 10:15:37 PM
Me personally, I think it should be 8.

I don't use the L for dogfighting, or anything really. I am a fan of the J Model simply because from my Midwar flying, the J and the G are the only things available so I use the J. Anyways, why do I think it should be 8 ENY? Because the Bishop use it so much it has become annoying. When the Bish country is outnumbering every country by enough to where the eny is 9 or even 10, it doesn't prevent them from upping a horde of P38L's. The L is a huge target and it isn't very hard to shoot down, in my opinion. I guess it depends on the pilot.

I don't know why the Bishop use P38's, I assume because it is fast and has a good eny. I am clue-less, it is a great dive bomber but the Bish make them great yard decorations. The amount of P38's that auger in a flakhapy or ghi mission is kind of funny. Or maybe they do it because the P38 is fast and has a good climb rate, but I have noticed that when the numbers are against the Bishop they use aircraft like the NIKI (8 eny I do believe),Typhoon (8ENY as well I think), LA7 and Lancasters. . .But when they have everybody and their grandad flying on their country they will with no doubt use the P38 because ENY won't allow the NIKI Typhoon and LA7. Maybe I am wrong, I don't know. Just thought maybe they should decrease the ENY to 8 on the P38L and make the Bishop get a little more creative with their hordes and stop making the P38's lawndarts.

Insight from other players, maybe ? No ? Okay :)

Let the flaming begin? Maybe ? Yes? Figures


 :salute

mind your own business about the bishops, we are happy padding our stas.


semp
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 03, 2013, 10:49:02 PM
There is no valid reason to adjust the P-38L's ENY, it's not needed.

ack-ack
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: BaldEagl on September 03, 2013, 10:49:51 PM
Oh please.  I see just as many Nit/Rook B-38 horde and auger missions.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 03, 2013, 10:57:37 PM
Oh please.  I see just as many Nit/Rook B-38 horde and auger missions.

Compare the amount of P38 missions you see from Rooks compared to Bishop. . .
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 03, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
There is no valid reason to adjust the P-38L's ENY, it's not needed.

ack-ack

I am sure you feel this way because you are one of the few P38 astronauts to fly Aces High, don't want HTC messing with your space shuttle.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: AAJagerX on September 03, 2013, 11:33:34 PM
There is no valid reason to adjust the P-38L's ENY, it's not needed.

ack-ack

Oh no...  I agree with Ack-Ack.  The world must be ending.   :D

Really though, why whine about a P-38?  It's a great plane for sure, but you could say the same thing about a number of planes in the arsenal. In fact, the 38's eny is one of the most fitting in the game. 
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Tinkles on September 03, 2013, 11:34:24 PM
I am sure you feel this way because you are one of the few P38 astronauts to fly Aces High, don't want HTC messing with your space shuttle.

Sounds like someone is mad that no one agrees with his opinion.    :devil

I have seen my fair share of hordes on all sides.   I've seen them with.. P38s, P51s, P47s, Ki84s N1Ks 110s, all-bombers-except-b29s, even with Ju87s.

Just because someone flies a way you don't approve of, doesn't mean that the plane should be lowered.  Some planes have better uses in some areas than others, yes, this is true. However, it doesn't mean that because it can be used like that, that it should be punished because of that strength.   The ENY is fine the way it is.  I think it's up to the community (Bishops Knights and Rooks) to not join missions in droves of 10+.  

I've taken bases with 3 people before. It can be done. I would actually join a mission if they made it so we attacked 2+ bases at once.  It's simply the mindset of the player, not what is in or not in the game.

While I understand your frustration, this isn't the way to fix it.  It's the community that will have to 'fix it'.

Tinkles

<<S>>
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: ghi on September 04, 2013, 12:01:15 AM
Me personally, I think it should be 8.

the Bishop . When the Bish ,

I don't know why the Bishop use P38's, . The amount of P38's that auger in a flakhapy or ghi mission . the Bishop t . the Bishop



 :salute
too much hate for a game , grow up , dweeb! you don't get it; get out of CNN and Fox see what's going on in the world!  noob! Salutte? naa ;   :neener:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 04, 2013, 12:29:25 AM
too much hate for a game , grow up , dweeb! you don't get it; get out of CNN and Fox see what's going on in the world!  noob! Salutte? naa ;   :neener:

 :rofl

This is coming from the guy who only visits the bbs to whine about something. . .or counter a whine made towards his lame hording squad.  :old:

EDIT

I don't mind you flying them ghi, not like you are worth anything in them.  :devil
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 04, 2013, 12:34:32 AM
A better solution would be to make eny limits much more severe. I honestly want it to be horrifically cruel, to the point where the 110C is the only viable JABO plane of the numbers get too high.

If at least one score padder doesn't quit, it's too lenient. I want horders to rage quit, or switch sides, from the crippling severity of ENY limits.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: JunkyII on September 04, 2013, 12:36:26 AM
I think the P38 is EZ mode but it does not need an ENY change, think it's perfect where it is.



A few other planes need a lower ENY but that will need another thread  :salute
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 04, 2013, 12:43:09 AM
I am sure you feel this way because you are one of the few P38 astronauts to fly Aces High, don't want HTC messing with your space shuttle.

Just because you're not very good in the P-38 is no reason to lash out.  In any event, I don't fly the L model and you've proven my point about there not being valid reason to change the ENY.

ack-ack
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 04, 2013, 12:58:12 AM
Just because you're not very good in the P-38 is no reason to lash out.  In any event, I don't fly the L model and you've proven my point about there not being valid reason to change the ENY.

ack-ack

Cause you have fought me in a P38 when? I don't remember every fighting you in a P38. Probably due to the fact that I don't like flying to 20k to fight someone.  :P
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 04, 2013, 01:41:29 AM
Cause you have fought me in a P38 when? I don't remember every fighting you in a P38. Probably due to the fact that I don't like flying to 20k to fight someone.  :P
pfff
So your mad for him being smart by getting an advantage? :neener:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 04, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
pfff
So your mad for him being smart by getting an advantage? :neener:

Finished your daily Early War run?  :noid
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 04, 2013, 01:58:36 AM
Finished your daily Early War run?  :noid
yeah. Was fun. You should come join me sometime
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 04, 2013, 02:07:50 AM
yeah. Was fun. You should come join me sometime

No time, sounds like fun though.  :rolleyes:

Goodnight , PT in an hour  :bhead


 :salute
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 04, 2013, 02:36:05 AM
No time, sounds like fun though.  :rolleyes:

Goodnight , PT in an hour  :bhead


 :salute
Poop time :banana:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: SirNuke on September 04, 2013, 02:37:21 AM
That said, 12 eny for the fastest 2k carrying fighter, with 10 rockets and loads of ammo seems cheaply paid when you compare it to a p47M for exemple
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: HawkerMKII on September 04, 2013, 05:51:40 AM
Oh please.  I see just as many Nit/Rook B-38 horde and auger missions.

No you don't cuz rooks never fly lower than 30k.....well only to pick then zoooooom back to 30k :neener:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Randy1 on September 04, 2013, 06:04:50 AM
I stayed with the L most of the last tour.  I did have one arena ENY limited sortie where I could not take the L model.

Even if it were 5 eny, what difference would it make anyway with the exception of ENY limited sorties.  That is unless you are perk farming.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: uptown on September 04, 2013, 06:24:18 AM
If your main goal here is to somehow stop large Jabo missions that flatten fields by adjusting ENY will never accomplish that because they're just use another plane to do the job.....110s or 47D40s for instance.

Besides, why try and stop other players fun? We can do the same thing if we wanted to.


Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Lusche on September 04, 2013, 06:39:26 AM
perked ords system...   :noid
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: dirtdart on September 04, 2013, 06:42:00 AM
This ^^^^.

I love the J, I just have not figured it out (secret cry out to SAPP members for help!).

Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: drmoo on September 04, 2013, 07:31:09 AM
what a joke flak and ghis boys and girl dont lawndart! just noob mission joiners and its the climb rate why they use it alot :neener: :joystick:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: The Fugitive on September 04, 2013, 07:54:42 AM
They climb???? I thought they only run NOE. :noid
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Rich46yo on September 04, 2013, 08:49:16 AM
This thread certainly delivers.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Max on September 04, 2013, 09:11:42 AM
The twin tail forkey horde is coming to a base near YOU!!  :x :neener: :old:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Butcher on September 04, 2013, 10:00:33 AM
I happen to love the P-38, if it wasn't for the twinfork boys (Delerium, Ack-ack, lazer, baloo, list goes for a mile) I would never of touched it, but I think it was Delerium who challenged me to fly it a tour, and I've been flying the 38J ever since.

I can't quite fly the 38G or 38L (they seem off to me) and the bulletproof glass in the G just screws my aim to hell, only thing I could ask is to try the 38H.

Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: doc1kelley on September 04, 2013, 10:01:57 AM
too much hate for a game , grow up , dweeb! you don't get it; get out of CNN and Fox see what's going on in the world!  noob! Salutte? naa ;   :neener:

I have to agree with most of what ya said GHI, but I do take it differently on the CNN and Fox, they should get out of CNN and MSNBC and see what is really going on in the world.  First we have SirNuke griefing about GVing in AH and some dweeb griefing about P-38's.  All this liberal BS that has been fed into these kids from school up to and especially in college has created a generation of "I want it my way" sheeple.  They should play the game their way and not worry about how everybody else plays the game.  A big  :salute to ya GHI old buddy, and a hearty fart in the general direction of the original griefer! :D

All the Best...

    Jay
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: doc1kelley on September 04, 2013, 10:05:35 AM
They climb???? I thought they only run NOE. :noid

Lol Fuge... I haven't seen them run an NOE mission in ages.

All the Best...

   Jay
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: matt on September 04, 2013, 10:12:04 AM
I am sure you feel this way because you are one of the few P38 astronauts to fly Aces High, don't want HTC messing with your space shuttle.
:cry :rofl :furious :O :uhoh :devil :banana: :headscratch: :ahand :bhead :old:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Triton28 on September 04, 2013, 10:48:39 AM
You leave the %&*#$%! P-38 alone!  YOU HEAR ME?!?   :furious
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Randy1 on September 04, 2013, 11:02:50 AM

. . .  I can't quite fly the 38G or 38L (they seem off to me) and the bulletproof glass in the G just screws my aim to hell, only thing I could ask is to try the 38H.


I spent the last tour in the L.  Then I went back to the J for a couple of sorties a couple of days ago.  The roll rate as I expected was notable as you would expect, but there is something about the flight model of J that is different than just aileron boosters.  The J handles lighter is best words I can think of.  It maybe the slower roll rate of the J that gives that impression.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: GhostCDB on September 04, 2013, 11:04:41 AM
I have to agree with most of what ya said GHI, but I do take it differently on the CNN and Fox, they should get out of CNN and MSNBC and see what is really going on in the world.  First we have SirNuke griefing about GVing in AH and some dweeb griefing about P-38's.  All this liberal BS that has been fed into these kids from school up to and especially in college has created a generation of "I want it my way" sheeple.  They should play the game their way and not worry about how everybody else plays the game.  A big  :salute to ya GHI old buddy, and a hearty fart in the general direction of the original griefer! :D

All the Best...

    Jay


Horders stick together in-game and on bbs. Cute.  :lol
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: SirNuke on September 04, 2013, 11:08:10 AM
I have to agree with most of what ya said GHI, but I do take it differently on the CNN and Fox, they should get out of CNN and MSNBC and see what is really going on in the world.  First we have SirNuke griefing about GVing in AH and some dweeb griefing about P-38's.  All this liberal BS that has been fed into these kids from school up to and especially in college has created a generation of "I want it my way" sheeple.  They should play the game their way and not worry about how everybody else plays the game.  A big  :salute to ya GHI old buddy, and a hearty fart in the general direction of the original griefer! :D

All the Best...

    Jay


should I cry or laugh? Of course younger people are full of energy and want things to change, I guess your flame has gone extinct and you don't want things to change. That's called conservationism, and usually comes at a later age  :old:

I fail to see the link between some TV channels and the wish for things to change in AH tho, especially for people like me that live in France and (thank god) are not fed with the mainstream news channel from the US.  :D

Despite my relatively young age I've been lucky to see the 5 continents and visited numerous countries, did you?

EDIT: I'm a liberal  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Max on September 04, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
:rofl

This is coming from the guy who only visits the bbs to whine about something. . .or counter a whine made towards his lame hording squad.  :old:

EDIT

I don't mind you flying them ghi, not like you are worth anything in them.  :devil

Somone needs a cookie and warm milk.  
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: titanic3 on September 04, 2013, 11:09:03 AM
Hmm, I half agree and half don't. Agreed that the hordes are stupid and that something needs to be done to promote better gameplay...disagree on the ENY change though. You change it and all they will do is revert to the next best thing. Then the arguments will still be the same.

Either perked ordinance. Or change the ENY depending on whether or not ords are taken. Both would fix the problem IMO.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Fulcrum on September 04, 2013, 12:37:45 PM
You leave the %&*#$%! P-38 alone!  YOU HEAR ME?!?   :furious

B-38s are for girly men named Felicity.  :neener:  :neener:


 :bolt:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Butcher on September 04, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
B-38s are for girly men named Felicity.  :neener:  :neener:


 :bolt:

I'm naming my 38 shaniqua
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Triton28 on September 04, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
B-38s are for girly men named Felicity.  :neener:  :neener:


 :bolt:

But boy do they flame the Japanese stuff nicely..  :rock
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Fulcrum on September 04, 2013, 02:47:15 PM
But boy do they flame the Japanese stuff nicely..  :rock

Yes.  Yes they do.   :cry

On the plus side (for me)....B38s are BIIIIIGGG.  So much so even someone with my s&%%ty aim can hit 'em.   :D

Muhahahaha 2 the Sequel!
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Triton28 on September 04, 2013, 03:05:23 PM
Yes.  Yes they do.   :cry

On the plus side (for me)....B38s are BIIIIIGGG.  So much so even someone with my s&%%ty aim can hit 'em.   :D

Muhahahaha 2 the Sequel!

You're just jealous that mine is bigger.   :ahand :D
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 04, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
You're just jealous that mine is bigger.   :ahand :D
Bigger things tend to go down harder ;)
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Debrody on September 04, 2013, 03:12:10 PM
Bigger things tend to go down harder ;)
But bigger is better, dont you know? Dont YOU know???  :lol
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Fulcrum on September 04, 2013, 03:13:27 PM
You're just jealous that mine is bigger.   :ahand :D

 :frown: Yes.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 04, 2013, 03:15:16 PM
But bigger is better, dont you know? Dont YOU know???  :lol
I know :t
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: uptown on September 04, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
perked ords system...   :noid
We were talking about this the other night. If 1000 lb eggs were to be perked on fighters, would that stop these big Jabo herds? Possible but doubtful IMO. I think they would just use 110s or Typhoons to gun the hangers down quickly. It would be interesting to see how a perk on ords would affect these missions.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 04, 2013, 06:02:01 PM
The typhoon wouldn't really be able to gun hangers down all that well. A P-51D would likely still be a better option, everything taken into account. Same with the P-38, and just about anything.

And we would have more warning time (and an easier fight) if they brought 110's, or 410's, or mossies.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: drmoo on September 04, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
when flak and ghi run 38 missions u lose base is that the whine? and they do noe also if they want map win they been 2 nice as of late and u guys have not seen a horde sence chuiwie left hello 300 b-17s on utube!! whiner :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :x
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: drmoo on September 04, 2013, 07:38:11 PM
as for perking ords hhhaaaa guess u never seen a seano no ords base take 110s :rock :banana: :banana: :old:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 04, 2013, 07:42:50 PM
Yeah, but we've busted up a good many of them.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Soulyss on September 04, 2013, 08:54:37 PM
I happen to love the P-38, if it wasn't for the twinfork boys (Delerium, Ack-ack, lazer, baloo, list goes for a mile) I would never of touched it, but I think it was Delerium who challenged me to fly it a tour, and I've been flying the 38J ever since.

I can't quite fly the 38G or 38L (they seem off to me) and the bulletproof glass in the G just screws my aim to hell, only thing I could ask is to try the 38H.



H had the same canopy and the same bulletproof glass as the G. :)
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Butcher on September 04, 2013, 09:10:38 PM
H had the same canopy and the same bulletproof glass as the G. :)


You just ruined my night :(
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Soulyss on September 05, 2013, 12:28:11 AM
You just ruined my night :(

Then my work here is done. :)
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Zacherof on September 05, 2013, 01:57:32 AM
Then my work here is done. :)

:rofl
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: SirNuke on September 05, 2013, 02:16:29 AM
its funny every bish posting in these threads have a very liberal use of English

when flak and ghi run 38 missions u lose base is that the whine? and they do noe also if they want map win they been 2 nice as of late and u guys have not seen a horde sence chuiwie left hello 300 b-17s on utube!! whiner :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :x

can someone traduce?
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: oTRALFZo on September 05, 2013, 03:01:45 AM
its funny every bish posting in these threads have a very liberal use of English

can someone traduce?

Although in a different dialect than I can remember being on bish, I think he said this:

I really have no issues playing bait for my beloved armchair generals. I shall forever pad their scores by slamming my plane into a hangar and/or take down a field gun whilst the generals and their squadron hang 20k above and behind the horde waiting for field to be prepped for an easy vulch.

Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: RotBaron on September 05, 2013, 03:35:15 AM
That's called conservationism, and usually comes at a later age  :old:

Not always  And the word you meant is conservatism, assuming you meant the political meaning and not saving trees.

I fail to see the link between some TV channels and the wish for things to change in AH tho, especially for people like me that live in France and (thank god) are not fed with the mainstream news channel from the US.  :D

I don't.
Is French communist/socialist news better programming? The chicks are wearing less, right?

Despite my relatively young age I've been lucky to see the 5 continents and visited numerous countries, did you?

EDIT: I'm a liberal  :rofl  :rofl

That I would have guessed... with all the tolerance you must have, by your own admitted affiliation, maybe you could be more tolerant of gvs?



Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: RotBaron on September 05, 2013, 03:52:38 AM
What I have not seen mentioned here is an explanation to Fuzion/kazaaa/tomcruise, that:

The reason the Bish use the 38L is because of the ord it carries drops hangars. One guy per each hangar and they've got the base flat with all of 7 guys, a couple guys playing 2nd ticket to those who miss a little. The other 5-10 guys are there to WF the town and do so simultaneously. If you watch carefully a few of them always hold their ord, sometimes bombs if there is a spawn close, and a few of them always hold their rockets for resupping m3's. Also, the 38 gives them the ability to zoom back a lot of their lost potential and thus allow to bnz any cons that got up.  That's pretty much the anatomy of a larger Bish 38 raid. However, sometimes they take down only the vh and deack the field in order to vulch...

If they can manage, they figure out another way and another plane to do it in if HT changes the ENY. Next it will 1-D's, J's, typhoons...
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Randy1 on September 05, 2013, 05:25:41 AM
What I have not seen mentioned here is an explanation to Fuzion/kazaaa/tomcruise, that:

. . . That's pretty much the anatomy of a larger Bish 38 raid. . . .



Having been caught several times defending a base when these raids come on the Rooks, I can tell you the Vox might have one complaint but most find it a real challenge to defend.  It is always exciting.  The auger'ing 38s thins them out pretty quick.

I see no problem here at all
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: RotBaron on September 05, 2013, 05:30:53 AM
I find them fun these days. I just mentioned this in another thread, but at least they don't run away. I was in the DA yesterday because NDIsles was up in the LW and in a 20 min span two guys engaged me, when they lost angles they ran away in faster planes - all the way back to their base.

Yes they can be difficult to defend if you don't get up early enough, but usually there is enough time to reach a decent altitude and come in from another base.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: doc1kelley on September 05, 2013, 10:33:30 AM
Horders stick together in-game and on bbs. Cute.  :lol

Horders?  Perhaps you didn't notice my squad affiliation? I may join a mission from time to time but I'm hardly what you'd call a "Horder".  I too have been around AW and AH since 1995 and I just happen to have friends on all sides and yes, GHI has been a friend for a number of years.  I've been here and seen that and have the T-shirt to prove that "Hordes" come in all sizes and countries and you can see it on any given day by any country.  I stand by my statement that you should worry more about having fun than worrying about how to stop others from having their fun.  Just how long you been flying here anyways?

All the Best...

    Jay
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: doc1kelley on September 05, 2013, 10:55:26 AM
should I cry or laugh? Of course younger people are full of energy and want things to change, I guess your flame has gone extinct and you don't want things to change. That's called conservationism, and usually comes at a later age  :old:

I fail to see the link between some TV channels and the wish for things to change in AH tho, especially for people like me that live in France and (thank god) are not fed with the mainstream news channel from the US.  :D

Despite my relatively young age I've been lucky to see the 5 continents and visited numerous countries, did you?

EDIT: I'm a liberal  :rofl  :rofl


Well I would probably laugh as I am now.  Well my flame is still burning as I embrace change when it has a positive effect.  I've pretty much always been conservative and yes I am old.  I only responded about the TV channels as we didn't have but a few when I was young and we rarely spent time watching them but it was not I who brought them up but GHI, and I responded to his post and not yours.  You are a recipient of the good will of my relatives and countrymen, you folks in France should be thanking George Marshall or you wouldn't have had what you now enjoy, but that is for another thread in another message area.  To answer your question about seeing 5 continents and visited numerous countries... No, I've only visited 5 foreign countries while serving in the military.  I fail to see the link between you being a liberal and your griefing about folks playing AH, who like to GV?  I fail to see the link in just about all you've posted, I fail to see the link of how AH will benefit if your grief was acted upon and they disabled GVing, and I really fail to see the link of what it has to do with the ENY of the P38L.  Perhaps you should clarify just what in fact your point is!  Why are you being such a Hater all of the sudden as I've flown with you in the past and you just didn't strike me as a person so full of venom then?

All the Best...

    Jay

PS.. Yeppers... I'm a conservative and I enjoy working for what I have.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: SirNuke on September 05, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
hey while being a bit provocative to get attention  my posts about gvs are not insulting to anyone (maybe with the exception of that illiterate hordlet). I gave my opinion about the P38 eny a couple pages ago, its you that brought me back here by questioning my education.

Sorry to come across as hater but it's the love for this game that pushes me to share my thoughts about its shortcomings and to be heard these days you'd better make some massive noise! I'm on a PR campaign rampage :)
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: doc1kelley on September 05, 2013, 01:16:23 PM
hey while being a bit provocative to get attention  my posts about gvs are not insulting to anyone (maybe with the exception of that illiterate hordlet). I gave my opinion about the P38 eny a couple pages ago, its you that brought me back here by questioning my education.

Sorry to come across as hater but it's the love for this game that pushes me to share my thoughts about its shortcomings and to be heard these days you'd better make some massive noise! I'm on a PR campaign rampage :)

Ok that sounds pretty good SirNuke!  I wasn't wanting to get into a P***ing contest with ya.  Yes the game has shortcommings but it's come a long ways.  It's the clientele that has gone down hill and not the game!  I do like to both fly and GV and it really depends on how tired I am after working 12-14 hours.  With those that are fortunate enough to have jobs, we have seen our work load increase as companies aren't hiring replacements and expecting those left behind to carry the load.  I had NOT questioned your education at all.  I really don't know about it or care as we are all here to do nothing more than have fun or release the stress of our real world lives.  I really don't want to discuss world events, politics, or social enlightenment's. I'm going to carry forth with the thought that you are just interested in improving the game and disregard everything else.  We all have bad days.  Heck, I've just completed 12 twelve hour days and will have just a day off until I go back and do it again.  Life is too short to grief about a game bro!  :salute

All the Best...

   Jay
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Dragon Tamer on September 05, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
I think the real problem here is the bishops as a whole. As of late, I've notices several of them becoming more and more... tardish for lack of a better word. The 38 raids contribute to this but as long as they are just ruining the rep of a single plane, I couldn't care less (I don't fly 38s anyway). I'm not going to say names but if you've fought against them you know who I'm talking about.

It's gotten to the point now that the only way to fix it is to remove every bish from the game (they can find another game to tard up) and start over.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: titanic3 on September 05, 2013, 08:54:03 PM
I think y'all should fly Bishop for at least a few weeks before handing out judgements. I did, and though I agree Bish tends to have the most dweebs...Knits and Rooks have their fair share as well.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Tinkles on September 05, 2013, 08:55:29 PM
I think y'all should fly Bishop for at least a few weeks before handing out judgements. I did, and though I agree Bish tends to have the most dweebs...Knits and Rooks have their fair share as well.

 :aok

I think the real problem here is the bishops as a whole. As of late, I've notices several of them becoming more and more... tardish for lack of a better word. The 38 raids contribute to this but as long as they are just ruining the rep of a single plane, I couldn't care less (I don't fly 38s anyway). I'm not going to say names but if you've fought against them you know who I'm talking about.

It's gotten to the point now that the only way to fix it is to remove every bish from the game (they can find another game to tard up) and start over.

That's mean. Not all bishops are hoarders. We all have seen knight and rook hoard missions before. Lately I've seen them a lot more than normal. But I do agree that Bishops are known more for it. Just like Rooks for being astronauts and Knights for ack running *cough*.

Anyways, I think that missions are a nice thing to have. But having too many in a mission is overkill.


For the record. While I do sometimes assist in a base take, I rarely join missions anymore. Due to the fact my computer can't hand "de hoard lagz".    But to say that only one side is hoarding or doing some 'cheap tactic'.. well, that's plain ignorance.

Tinkles

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Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Dragon Tamer on September 06, 2013, 04:08:11 PM
That's mean. Not all bishops are hoarders. We all have seen knight and rook hoard missions before. Lately I've seen them a lot more than normal. But I do agree that Bishops are known more for it. Just like Rooks for being astronauts and Knights for ack running *cough*.


For the record. While I do sometimes assist in a base take, I rarely join missions anymore. Due to the fact my computer can't hand "de hoard lagz".    But to say that only one side is hoarding or doing some 'cheap tactic'.. well, that's plain ignorance.

Tinkles

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I was in a bit of a rage when I posted that and shouldn't have said some of the things I did. I do know that each side has it's horde, but the bish are known for running them more regularly than the other sides which annoys me the most.

Anyways, I think that missions are a nice thing to have. But having too many in a mission is overkill.

This is probably the best expression that I've ever seen about the missions in game, and I agree with it 100 percent.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Tank-Ace on September 06, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
Fine line between a mission and a horde. If your extent of organization for at 20 player mission is "hit the town, kill fighters" then you're just a horde.
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: drmoo on September 06, 2013, 06:07:53 PM
can someone traduce? yes it mean my 15 bucks is worth the same as yours oh and not in a squad so baseless and ya thats facts jack :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: Daddkev on September 06, 2013, 06:15:20 PM
 :huh :huh :huh :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead Haters !!!!!!!  :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: P38L ENY 12
Post by: JunkyII on September 07, 2013, 03:30:04 AM
can someone traduce? yes it mean my 15 bucks is worth the same as yours oh and not in a squad so baseless and ya thats facts jack :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
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