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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: TequilaChaser on September 13, 2013, 05:49:05 PM
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for those of you who think using java has no effect on you,
you should read the following link
Security of Java takes a dangerous turn for the worse, experts say
Beware of increasingly advanced exploits targeting flaws that will never be fixed.
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/security-of-java-takes-a-dangerous-turn-for-the-worse-experts-say/
there is more problems regarding "Java" besides what is mentioned in the above linked article......
hope this helps someone
TC
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Java has always been an exploit waiting to happen. The single worst thing that has ever happened to the computer industry.
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Java has always been an exploit waiting to happen. The single worst thing that has ever happened to the computer industry.
Luckily nobody is forced to have it on the computer. I never install the thing and remove it even from OSX.
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Luckily nobody is forced to have it on the computer. I never install the thing and remove it even from OSX.
Danske Bank... good thing is they have changed it a few months ago but people still need java if they want to use danske bank when paying in webstores.
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Danske Bank... good thing is they have changed it a few months ago but people still need java if they want to use danske bank when paying in webstores.
Old William knew that centuries ago: Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
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Danske Bank... good thing is they have changed it a few months ago but people still need java if they want to use danske bank when paying in webstores.
Nobody is forced to use Danske bank...
Quote from: Marcellus (Hamlet Act 1, scene 4, 90)
Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
ROFL good one Bizman. Hit the nail in the head.
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Java has always been an exploit waiting to happen. The single worst thing that has ever happened to the computer industry.
what are the options? Go back to 1990's internet?
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I uninstalled Java from all my machines several months ago. I've yet to run into anything I'm missing on the Internet without it although there was one web-site that asked me to install it to access their "content".
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what are the options? Go back to 1990's internet?
Java is very rarely needed on anything web page related. It's mostly used for different kinds of applications. Javascript then again is very common. But for safety reasons javascript should be blocked too.
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what are the options? Go back to 1990's internet?
You of all people should appreciate the fact Java is a huge security problem which cannot be made secure. Yes, I would rather go back to pure HTML, than run an ill designed implementation prone to unlimited exploits.
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It is certainly true that Java version 7 has huge problems, but the gist of the alarmist article is that Java version 6, "...which Oracle stopped supporting in February...", (over six months ago!) is unpatched and vulnerable. And that if you must sill use Java you should update to Java version 7, ASAP.
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It is certainly true that Java version 7 has huge problems, but the gist of the alarmist article is that Java version 6, "...which Oracle stopped supporting in February...", (over six months ago!) is unpatched and vulnerable. And that if you must sill use Java you should update to Java version 7, ASAP.
Some applications actually require Java6. Updating can result in nasty surprises: http://www.jnbridge.com/jn/blog/2013/01/28/java-7-update-silently-deletes-java-6-breaks-applications/
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Folks,
I'm just a layman so I am understanding that JAVA is not the same as JavaScript? Am I correct? Is JavaScript safe to use?
Thanx
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Folks,
I'm just a layman so I am understanding that JAVA is not the same as JavaScript? Am I correct? Is JavaScript safe to use?
Thanx
Java and Javascript are not the same. For example, despite the name, Javascript is not a script version of Java. Java is dangerous and not really needed for run of the mill web pages. Javascript can also be dangerous, but pretty much nothing on the web will work properly with it disabled. So you pay your money and takes your chances.
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Java and Javascript are not the same. For example, despite the name, Javascript is not a script version of Java. Java is dangerous and not really needed for run of the mill web pages. Javascript can also be dangerous, but pretty much nothing on the web will work properly with it disabled. So you pay your money and takes your chances.
Actually most things on the web will work at basic level without javascript but some badly made websites may have even hyperlinks and menus disabled if you don't enable javascript. I always run noscript on my computers so by default no website uses any javascript or flash when I enter them. If I see the need for it I can enable a specific site for javascript but leave googleapi etc sites disabled. Often ad networks are a source of attacks so better not to see them. And this of course is while using Mac or Linux - with windows I don't browse the net. Period.
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So I use Windows 7. I'm sure I have both Java and JavaScript. If I am reading this correctly I should remove Java from my computer. JavaScript I can leave?
Would it be best to remove both? With those gone should I replace them with something else or will Windows 7 automatically compensate in some manner?
Thanks in advance!
Boo
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You of all people should appreciate the fact Java is a huge security problem which cannot be made secure. Yes, I would rather go back to pure HTML, than run an ill designed implementation prone to unlimited exploits.
Yes, but so is flash, so is HTML5, so is just about any web browser.
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Too many web pages rely on scripting to remove JavaScript, in my opinion.
Java is different. Not many sites at all require that, and these days you can easily disable it from running on your browser (in the Java control panel). I'm not keen on enabling it on my browser except for particular sites (like financial ones with involved financial tools).
I love Java as a programming language, though. We use it as the main language for code that runs the industrial instruments our company builds, where a single crash of the application costs hundreds to thousands of dollars in wasted materials and 1-3 days delay in production. It's used on machines in our own production facility and customer sites in various other countries. It's been great for that.
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Java is a program that gets installed on your computer and can be removed by the Uninstall routine on Control Panel (Add/Remove Programs... or at least that is correct for XP). Doing so might disable some programs that depend on Java. You can also leave Java on the computer and turn off Java in your browser options so that it doesn't get utilized for web pages.
Javascript is part of your browser and you can enable or disable it within the browsers options section. Some browsers, like Opera, allow the user to turn on Javascript only for chosen websites and leave it off for the rest. On Firefox you can use the NoScript addon to do the same thing. Many web pages will sort of work with Javascript off. This forum, for example, will allow posting but none of the buttons or smilies in the editing page will work with Javascript off and you have to enter the []code yourself.