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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lazs on April 10, 2001, 08:16:00 AM
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there sure has been a lot of good, and huge fights in the MA lately! Sometimes a good fight can last an hour or so before some attention starved lanc or stupidfortress notices that everyone is off having fun at some worthless place on the map and ignoring em. They drop the fighter hangers and lumber on...
lazs
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Strat dweebs! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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you forgot score potatos !
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Spooky67
"Les Grenouilles Volantes" (Flying Froggies)
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/alain.mattia/Mypage_fichiers/BFF.gif)
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maybe them new guys didn't have the mental capacity to figure out they have to stop the buffs as well as the fighters.
Oh well, may be too much to ask...
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Laz, see my idea for a furball arena in Game play forum? Comments?
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rip... I have said many times that I don't think seperate arenas work. I really think there is room for everyone to have fun in the same game. A seperate arena is a seperate game. For instance... I have no interest in what goes on in scenarios and am not a part of em in any way right now.
What i was really angry about was that I spent all that time organizing a huge mission to bomb the latrines (therby degrading air quality in the fighters) at A87 and only a half dozen or so bombers participated. Why bother?
Like myself... I think a lot of the new guys would have to be pretty bored to bother to attack a buff. Who can blame em?
lazs
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lazs how about this:
I'll let you furball and won't comment on it, and you shut up about those of us who sometimes want to do things differently?
Fair enough?
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Santa, you are offering him a strategic deal? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Pepe
[This message has been edited by Pepe (edited 04-10-2001).]
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As many times as I have read Laz complaining about Strat guys, buffs & lack of furballing, you would think the guy never has fun. If that is the case, why fly?
BgMAW
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What are you guys complaining about now?
Y
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Boofediddleing hoo!!! Somebody bombed my hangar......MOMMMYYYYYYY (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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The only method to getting lazs to pipe down is to .ignore him. Let him coment in his bitter tone like some ole maid and DON'T reply to him. Thats what he wants. He needs to make negitive remarks about how other <cough> people play this game. Its not that he makes comments on wanting more <cough> furballs so that he may enjoy the game the way he likes it, its that every remark with respect to the way other people play the game has a condesending tone. Even when he has something positive to add he screws it up by including some negitive remarks to the way other people play.
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ROFL pepe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Spot on with that assessment Tac!, quit the whining Lazs, if the main arena was forced into a dweeb furball arena I'm pretty sure subscriptions would be cut in half.
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Ripper! Furball arena is a good idea! but you must have numbers to do this. the MA holds 260 and I have yet to find it full. Multi arena play was a success with AW because at one time 4 relaxed real could be full, 2 full real, and big pac and axis vs. allies could handle the over flow. furball arena great idea, but along with changes in arenas different scores for separate arenas would also be needed. I've noticed lots of new shee........er players recently, if the numbers continue to increase I'm sure multi arena play will become standard.
Hajo
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You don't need to "force" anyone to furball. Quite the opposite. If your "strat" is phony, and unfun then you will indeed need to "force" people to participate in the (cough) "strat tho. One way to force people to participate in badly done strat is to deny them any other way.
The last few nights are perfect examples. No one was being forced to fight/furball. In fact... they were doing it in large numbers and quite willingly avoiding the moronic, unrealistic and unskilled "fighter hanger de-roofing" that would shut down the fun. What happens is that evnetually some attention starved and or unskilled suicide bomber makes it to the field and ruins the fun for dozens of guys.
Now, IMO, this is both bad gameplay and extremely unrealistic. it is embarassingly silly so far as "strat" or even tactics go. Certainly, field capture could be improved to be slightly more realistic and improve gameplay at the same time.
tac... your kidding right? Are you saying that someone should "sacrafice" themselves and cap fields over furballs? Do the boring job of killing the stupidfortress while everyone else is down there having a good time? No... everyone fights while they can and the buff flies over at 15k and de-roofs a couple of buildings. Then everyone looks for another place to fight if the next field over is too far away. It's simply too easy to deny fighters at a field.
lazs
[This message has been edited by lazs (edited 04-10-2001).]
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Well if everyone is having FUN what's the prob?
I thought I was wrong once but I was wrong.
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Hey Torqiepoo.. are you coming back to fly anytime soon?
I need a real challenge, aside from Drex. I'm not really certain Drex qaulifies as a "challenge"... maybe more like a "I'll kick your bellybutton and you're gonna like it b*tch".... (http://www.mpz.co.uk/cwm/otn/happy/stonedsmilie.gif)
-SW
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Funny this comes up. I just opened a Wb account yesterday after an 18 month hiatis, I was kind of dissapointed.
I climb to 15k (for nothing) to find about 30 a/c going at it on the deck, it was like this the whole arena. I got 9 kills in three hops (would have had triple that if not for the low ammo load of a 109e) and logged off in boredom.
In AH, I find the pilots to be much more difficult to fight because they hold on to their E and fly with a much more tactical mind. I also find AH aircraft to be more demanding - I mean last night in WB I was diving 8k into a furball balls to the wall without a worry about my speed or trim - this is not the case in AH.
Anothing thing I noticed was that I ran a 20% gunnery percentage where in AH it's like 5%. How the hell is that possible, I was totally unprepared for WB not having touched it in a year and a half.
I'll tell you why, AH has increased my pilot skills immensely. AH forces me to stay tactically minded, to keep my plane in trim, to watch my fuel, and to manage my speed.
What your complaining about lazs is what makes AH a great flight simm.
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Nicely put Kats.
<S>
VoX
9./JG54
"The World looks green thru a hedge"
"C J Whelan 1983."
[This message has been edited by VoX (edited 04-10-2001).]
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tac... your kidding right? Are you saying that someone should "sacrafice" themselves and cap fields over furballs? Do the boring job of killing the stupidfortress while everyone else is down there having a good time?
Actually, this is exactly what I was doing last night over A5. I bagged a B17 over the field with a Zeke at 29K- a true miracle! I had to work pretty hard to get it, though, and it was a white-knuckle job, so what does it matter if I got 1 kill or 5 in that time? My mind was clear of all my other troubles while I was focused on killing that buff- and that friends is all I am after while I am in there. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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kats...tactics and "strat" are different animals. So is gunnery and damage and flight models... Ah has a better FM and gunnery and damage model IMO. It changes tactics. In WB the game would change radically if hit percent went down and damage up. If FM's were better.
What I am complaining about is not what makes AH fun. I am complaining about a simplistic gameplay/strat feature that ruins the fun for a lot of people. If it were fixed you would not get kills in "furballs' like you do in WB. Someone will get u if you get down and mix it up. If you don't you will miss out on the kills. You cant (ala WB) swoop down full bore and shake off a "few hits" and then come back and take "a few more hits". You would be dead and/or you would attract the attention of someone else coming into the fight with a lot of e that percieved you to be a bigger threat than the group in the furball.
tac... great but most would rather enjoy themselves and find attacking buffs to be less thatn satisfying in any case no matter what the result. Many have flat said that they will not attack buffs at all for any reason. I can see their point.
lazs