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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Debrody on September 17, 2013, 04:12:24 PM
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From how it started to how it ended. Enjoy :aok
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Yes, im this much of a wussy person. Sorry about the small font sizes, by the way, photobucked changed the resolution on the upload.
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Debrody, everyone else has known for a long time that icepac is a compulsive liar and will make up any excuse to avoid fighting someone 1v1, or to avoid providing proof of his ridiculous stories.
I guess because you have been away from the game for a while due to various rage quit incidents you did not know this.
Now you do :aok
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Haha, yups.
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Open up paint or another editor and crop your screen-shots to just the text and then re-post, or ....
I guess we can all use 'control +' if we get curious enough.
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:O
wow that strained my eyes...but funny as heck :rofl
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:O
wow that strained my eyes...but funny as heck :rofl
Create a custom arena if you want jet on jet action :old:
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Debrody, everyone else has known for a long time that icepac is a compulsive liar and will make up any excuse to avoid fighting someone 1v1, or to avoid providing proof of his ridiculous stories.
Yeah, he's pretty much a joke. He sent me a PM once challenging me to the DA and then stated he'd only fight me at 30k and then when I agreed, he made some excuse about being sick and he'd get back to me. Never heard a peep from him afterwards other then the time he accused me of bailing out of bombers to avoid being shot down by him.
ack-ack
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Lol, had a similar experience. Wanted to DA, would only fight at 30K, told him why bother climbing that high. Nope. I'm the noob.
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Lol, had a similar experience. Wanted to DA, would only fight at 30K, told him why bother climbing that high. Nope. I'm the noob.
I once asked to wing with him. Never responded :(
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I stated on channel that I had killed 5 b29s in two hours a couple of tours ago........all of them over 30,000 feet with the 262 after he said it was useless at high altitudes.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killsof.php?playername=icepac&selectTour=LWTour161&pindex=114
He asked the duel me so I said "sure.....at 36,000 feet since you say the 262 is useless up there".
He agreed so we went to the dueling arena but 262s are not enabled there.
He wanted to go to the training arena but I hipped him to the fact bullets don't work there at this time and that he wanted to air start from a high altitude base.
He wouldn't duel under the agreement and tried to change the terms after he had already agreed.
Pretty simple stuff to understand if you don't buy into Debrody's spin.
I am on a cell phone connection to the arena but will gladly duel anybody as long as it's at historic altitudes.
A simple duel isn't worth the amount of effort Debrody puts into his hate threads about me.
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Pretty simple stuff to understand if you don't buy into Debrody's spin.
What spin are you referring to exactly?
I mean, there might be something wrong with my eyes, but it looks to me like he just posted screenshots :headscratch: Not quite sure how you can 'spin' the content of a screenshot.
Unless of course you're going to say that he edited the screenshots to make you look bad, like you did when I posted screenshots of your lying PMs :rofl
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Coombz, you have never proven me a liar yet you persist in throwing it out there every time you see me post.
I'm sure your rhetoric is a violation of the terms of service and I think it's inspired by your inability to understand that some people chase life experiences with more gusto than you and experience more because of that.
I did post the film of the incident that spawned the thread starter's anger resulting in him authoring an angry thread that was closed as this thread will surely be.
Original thread......
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,353767.0.html
Film thread......
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,354011.msg4686168.html
more because of that.
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A simple duel isn't worth the amount of effort Debrody puts into his hate threads about me.
Has Debrody made more than one thread about you then? ;o or are you 'exaggerating' (read: lying) again?
Just curious...I might have missed it if Deb has indeed made multiple hate threads directed at you.
Coombz, you have never proven me a liar
Are you capable of understanding the concept of 'the burden of proof?' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof
It's not down to me to prove that your fairy stories are wrong. It's up to you to provide some kind of backing for the assertions you make. You have never done this, ever, for anything. You constantly refer to 'having film' of various incidents in AH, but none of it is ever posted.
This is pretty basic stuff, but I understand that it's a bit of a leap for someone like you who has made mendacity into the habit of a lifetime.
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Coombz....this isn't the place for your agenda.
Post your own thread with your proof or stop with this course of action.
I did throw you a ridiculous troll PM because you like to post what I say in your signature and, predictably, you instantly incorporated it into your "signature".
Even though it was a troll post, I'm still not sure there was any lying as you assert.
By the way.....your quote where you say "I'll be seeing you next month" is incorrect as the original read "I may be seeing you next month as I am procuring some nissan diesel engines from New Zealand".
Who's lying now?
Also.......posting the contents of PMs is a violation of the terms of service and a bannable offense.
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The thing is, every time you deflect away from answering my posts (as in this thread), you just make me more determined to keep up with this 'agenda' as you call it :)
It would be really simple to make me shut up once and for all, to prove me completely wrong in the eyes of the entire community and make me look stupid...
But you never do it...you always make excuses, deflect, threaten to get me banned, whatever...all a load of hot air. That's all you've got.
You're all talk, and no substance.
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Then what is your exact reason to post your drivel every time you see me post in the forums?
Is there some sort of crusade you are on that I am not aware of?
Is this to benefit the other forum members?
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Then what is your exact reason to post your drivel every time you see me post in the forums?
Is there some of crusade you are on that I am not aware of?
Is this to benefit the other forum members?
I guess it's what you'd call a self-fulfilling prophecy, or something of the sort. The more excuses you make to avoid providing proof for your tall tales, the more it makes it seem like you're full of sh*t. If you had just ONCE posted some film or other evidence to back up your tales of owning so-and-so pilot, or being vulched by Lusche, or whatever...if you had just ONCE posted some proof, then there really would be no mileage in it for me.
It's not a crusade, unless you consider my built-in, unstoppable desire to troll stupid people on the internet a crusade (I've never really thought of it in those terms, although the phrase has a certain something...)
It's not really for the benefit of other members (although I do consider it kind of a public service). It's solely for my own entertainment.
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that said the 262 IS useless at 30k.IIRC its wmaker that demonstrated the ah 262 is slower than its real life conterpart at high altitudes.
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Dude... you havent even took the time to see those screenies. Some of your statements in this thread are wrong, becouse you stated the exact opposition of them on 200, as its shown on the screenies. You might could accouse me of editing those pics via photoshop, just like to accouse me of being a cheater (weight change hack) every single time i land kills. After this, if i were you, i would be really quiet and would sink into my own shame. End of the story.
You bash me for posting this to entertain the public. Yes, its a bad-willing act towards you - i want everyone to laugh on your stupidity. But hey, think about this, i could send in those uncountable amount of screenies where youre annoying me with that weight hack BS, straight to Skuzzy - would you be any happyer then?
Shut it and play. One more time youre accousing me of that BS and HTC's mailbox will be full of screenies.
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Dear IceCream:
I'm still waiting on our 1v1 DA. Have you resolved your stated network connection problems i.e. using a "cell phone" to connect to the internet? :huh
XOXOs,
Fulcrum
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Just ignore the troll, Deb. He's as bad as MANOWAR, but even less skilled.
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Wouldn't dueling in the TA work just fine, after all your shooting 30mm Mk108 at each other in 262's, first hit would win anyway :lol
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BigRat
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icepac is insane. :rolleyes:
:ahand
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All y'all need to STFU and fly!
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Wouldn't dueling in the TA work just fine, after all your shooting 30mm Mk108 at each other in 262's, first hit would win anyway :lol
:salute
BigRat
Thats what i said a couple of times, as its shown on the screenies.
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that said the 262 IS useless at 30k.IIRC its wmaker that demonstrated the ah 262 is slower than its real life conterpart at high altitudes.
People who take it above 20k are crazy :rolleyes:
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Debrody forgets he is the one who instigates every encounter as shown in film posted to the topic linked.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,354011.0.html
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Debrody forgets he is the one who instigates every encounter as shown in film posted to the topic linked.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,354011.0.html
And? This changes the fact that youre a notorious liar?
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All y'all need to STFU and fly!
+1
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Also.......posting the contents of PMs is a violation of the terms of service and a bannable offense.
No it's not. Don't start making up rules that don't exist.
ack-ack
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And? This changes the fact that youre a notorious liar?
Remember, I have the films of all of your encounters with me that show you as the instigator who made first contact.
You should probably check the thread in the screenshots forum.
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Turn off 200 where the bait'ers and the bit'ers thrive like bacteria, filled petri dish.
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From how it started to how it ended. Enjoy :aok
That's not "how it started" and you were careful not to post "how it started" because it shows you as the instigator...........just like in your last hate thread about me.
How about you post a screenie of what you said BEFORE what was said in your screenshots?
Has Debrody made more than one thread about you then? ;o or are you 'exaggerating' (read: lying) again?
Two threads is more than one.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,353767.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,353988.0.html
You you have been refuted, coombz......but I expect you to ignore it because it does not suit your agenda.
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How about you post a screenie of what you said BEFORE what was said in your screenshots?
Why, what did i say? Was i cussing you? Or anyone? Turning on my aimbot? My superb weight hack? Called anyone names?
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Telling you, i was chilling with Save, talking about beers and such, in PMs.
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Fight, just fight, try to throw the attention away from your lameness, its only making it even funnyer. :rofl
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Two threads is more than one.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,353767.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,353988.0.html
You you have been refuted, coombz......but I expect you to ignore it because it does not suit your agenda.
i only see 1 thread that even had your name in it until you posted...that's 1 about you, and 1 about someone with the name "here".
Coombz was right...
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Plead insanity icepac, that way they can't try ya :P
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i only see 1 thread that even had your name in it until you posted...that's 1 about you, and 1 about someone with the name "here".
Coombz was right...
LOL.....you can't count to 2 even with links to both threads.
Why, what did i say? Was i cussing you? Or anyone? Turning on my aimbot? My superb weight hack? Called anyone names?
:rofl
Telling you, i was chilling with Save, talking about beers and such, in PMs.
:rofl
Fight, just fight, try to throw the attention away from your lameness, its only making it even funnyer. :rofl
Then please post what you said earlier.
It went down like this........
You said the 262 was worthless at high altitude and I said I killed 5 b29s with one in an hour or two time period over 30,000 feet.
You got abusive and lodged the challenge, agreed to terms, and then tried to change the terms you agreed to.
Then you authored this thread which is the second thread in which you have targeted me personally here in a week's time.
You are the instigator........It's as simple as that.
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How was i abusive? Also, i dont have that screenie. If it really did hurt you that much, post it yourself then.
By the way, if you continue like this, Skuzzy's mailbox is soon to be full with your cheating accousations :aok
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LOL.....you can't count to 2 even with links to both threads.
look again sweetcheeks...i accounted for both threads...reading comprehension problems got you again?
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LOL.....you can't count to 2 even with links to both threads.
Then please post what you said earlier.
It went down like this........
You said the 262 was worthless at high altitude and I said I killed 5 b29s with one in an hour or two time period over 30,000 feet.
You got abusive and lodged the challenge, agreed to terms, and then tried to change the terms you agreed to.
Then you authored this thread which is the second thread in which you have targeted me personally here in a week's time.
You are the instigator........It's as simple as that.
I love you.
Please marry me so we can run off and have little IceyPops together.
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I love you.
Please marry me so we can run off and have little IceyPops together.
:rofl
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I love you.
Please marry me so we can run off and have little IceyPops together.
:rofl
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What coombz said and the iceypops comment has made this thread completely worth reading :rofl
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I love you.
Please marry me so we can run off and have little IceyPops together.
Fly at 40k and you will have an Iceypop, i recommend to leather your rubber first.
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Fly at 40k and you will have an Iceypop, i recommend to leather your rubber first.
:rofl :aok
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Wait a second... found one more screenie... see how insanely abusive i was :rofl
Dear, you caught on a lie again :rofl Heres your cake:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m601/Debrody/ahss18_zps1b8a83ce.png)
Also, there is a cheating accousation on the bottom.
Even more, checking the stats, you havent killed a single B29 this tour. 4 in last month (not 5 in 2 hours yesterday as you have stated), and 2 in July. OOPS
Even more, i clearly said "TA", because i knew that the 262 is disabled in the DA. We did not go to the DA as you said and we did not go migrated to the TA as you said.
Even more, there wasnt a word typed about sea level start - until i found a 20k field to shorten down the climbing time.
Even more, you said, you have more experience in the 262 than most. That might be even true as really only a few are flying the jet, and most just go home withouth a kill. But you have 0 kills in it this tour, 0 before that, 0 in july, 23 in june, 0 in May, 3 in April. Looking up a random month further back (2012 September), it says, 0. In the same month, i had 136 kills and 4 deaths, and that was the month when i came back after my summer break. In the next month, i had 144 kills vs 6 death. Still not 150, but my real jetdweeb period was way back earlyer. You can say that i was a jet dweeb - i was - , but if you arent harrassing the horde in that jet, you will not get this many scalps. Fact.
Dude, i dont have to prove anything. Everyone knows im insane. But now its time to laugh on ... (wait for it) ... YOU :aok :rofl
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system: pwnage confirmed
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that said he did kill 6 B29's in a 262 on tour 161, the altitude is not showing tho :)
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Hey, they were in 3 hours! What means: he upped a 262, took like 40 mins to get to alt, and suddenly, he just ran into some bombers what are almost as fast as he is. Kiled poor TWCscotty, landed. Then instantly upped again, took 40 mins to climb up to 36k, and all by accident, ran into wd39 in his B29s. That poor fella never had a chance to fire his guns - he might have been afk.
I dont have proof on this. But since the B29 can go amost as fast as a 262 up there, also the 262 does not have the climb rate advantage to attack from above, he must have been flying in from an angle what was close to what we call a "dead six". Also, we all know what a B29 set can do with anything in his dead six... thats why i guess, they must have been afk, or some really, i mean really poor gunners.
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But since the B29 can go almost as fast as a 262 up there, also the 262 does not have the climb rate advantage to attack from above, he must have been flying in from an angle what was close to what we call a "dead six".
Errr no.
No doubt the 262 is a pig at extremely high altitudes by any means. But The B-29 is never anywhere near to being "as fast as a 262", at any alt. The main problem for the 262 is the lack climb rate and the bad maneuverability.
You have to set up your attack very careful and with only minor course corrections, your will lose altitude and/or will fall behind again. But it can be done, if you are patient enough and plan ahead. And you don't have to attack from 6 o clock. Of course, as most fighter pilots in the MA lack the patience to set up a proper attack on bombers even at low altitudes, it doesn't happen often
But it is doable. At least vs the standard AH bomber pilot. Been there, done that. Of course, if having to choose I would take the 262 only up to 28-30k, above 30K I'd take the Ta 152H.
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Errr no.
No doubt the 262 is a pig at extremely high altitudes by any means. But The B-29 is never anywhere near to being "as fast as a 262", at any alt. The main problem for the 262 is the lack climb rate and the bad maneuverability.
You have to set up your attack very careful and with only minor course corrections, your will lose altitude and/or will fall behind again. But it can be done, if you are patient enough and plan ahead. And you don't have to attack from 6 o clock. Of course, as most fighter pilots in the MA lack the patience to set up a proper attack on bombers even at low altitudes, it doesn't happen often
But it is doable. At least vs the standard AH bomber pilot. Been there, done that. Of course, if having to choose I would take the 262 only up to 28-30k, above 30K I'd take the Ta 152H.
what is a proper attack on bombers...say even if 999 is in them....(honest question :angel:)
I don't attack from 6 often...but it seems no matter what I do I get killed by bombers...thats why I have very few bomber kills and most often just leave them alone.
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I have never said "as fast", only "almost as fast". Once i upped a set, when the Grinder map was new and i was in the KN. Bombed the bish strats at 30k, but on the way back, got caught by 3 163s, true, not at once but one after another. Shot 2 of them down while the 3rd one ran out of fuel and was forced to land - and im a really awful gunner. That damn B29 does like 380-390mph up there when its light, only 110mph slower than the 262. Whats the jets real disadvantage up there, the low mach-speed, its flyable speed zone is much narrower than at low altitudes. It makes tha attack really difficult and predictable, even if the hunter has some alttude over the bomber.
Or just i dont know how to attack a high bomber when i cant arrive from above, near the 3-9 line :)
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what is a proper attack on bombers...say even if 999 is in them....(honest question :angel:)
Basically any that avoids ending up on the bomber's six. There are several variants depending much on plane & personal preference.
I very much prefer swopping down on the bomber from 1-3 o'clock. High speed pass, aim for cockpit/wingroots, extend fast on the other side, climb up, rinse & repeat. This is also the kind of attack giving me the most problems as a bomber gunner as well: Very fast closure speed, difficult orientation, having to track rapidly changing angles.
Other buff hunters prefer the straight down overhad attack or the plain ole frontal attack.
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Or just i dont know how to attack a high bomber when i cant arrive from above, near the 3-9 line :)
You don't have to be above. When facing very fast & high 29s in my 262, I often resort to fast 1-3 o clock attacks from below instead of above. The 262 is fast enough to do this, and it's (under these particular circumstances) easier to set up than the sweeping attack from above.
Of course, it's still difficult, requires alot of good timing and patience and does occasionally end up in disaster :D
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I've given up going after 30k buffs
Only b29 kill I've bad was at 10k and I bust aimed for his rudder
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and does occasionally end up in disaster :D
pretty much :lol
By the way, hi Joe!
This was called alive to laugh on the ice-ice baby.
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You don't have to be above. When facing very fast & high 29s in my 262, I often resort to fast 1-3 o clock attacks from below instead of above. The 262 is fast enough to do this, and it's (under these particular circumstances) easier to set up than the sweeping attack from above.
Of course, it's still difficult, requires alot of good timing and patience and does occasionally end up in disaster :D
cc that...thats about exactly what I have heard before...I just suk at it...most often ill miss with my ammo and ram em. :rofl
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One thing I totally forgot:
The frontal quarter attack from below on the B-29s is also highly recommended at lower altitudes in a 262. Why? Because of the dreaded frontal top turret with 4x0.50 cal guns instead of 2x, which you would fly directly into.
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Wait a second... found one more screenie... see how insanely abusive i was :rofl
Dear, you caught on a lie again :rofl Heres your cake:
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m601/Debrody/ahss18_zps1b8a83ce.png)
Also, there is a cheating accousation on the bottom.
Even more, checking the stats, you havent killed a single B29 this tour. 4 in last month (not 5 in 2 hours yesterday as you have stated), and 2 in July. OOPS
Even more, i clearly said "TA", because i knew that the 262 is disabled in the DA. We did not go to the DA as you said and we did not go migrated to the TA as you said.
Even more, there wasnt a word typed about sea level start - until i found a 20k field to shorten down the climbing time.
Even more, you said, you have more experience in the 262 than most. That might be even true as really only a few are flying the jet, and most just go home withouth a kill. But you have 0 kills in it this tour, 0 before that, 0 in july, 23 in june, 0 in May, 3 in April. Looking up a random month further back (2012 September), it says, 0. In the same month, i had 136 kills and 4 deaths, and that was the month when i came back after my summer break. In the next month, i had 144 kills vs 6 death. Still not 150, but my real jetdweeb period was way back earlyer. You can say that i was a jet dweeb - i was - , but if you arent harrassing the horde in that jet, you will not get this many scalps. Fact.
Dude, i dont have to prove anything. Everyone knows im insane. But now its time to laugh on ... (wait for it) ... YOU :aok :rofl
I said I have less experience than most in the jet with probably less than 12 times ever having flown it.
My meaning is that even with only a few mission in a jet, I have more experience over 30,000 in the 262 than most anybody else because all but 1 mission were over 30,000 feet.
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I said I have less experience than most in the jet with probably less than 12 times ever having flown it.
Lie. Check those screenies. :ahand
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No lies but I did make a joking reference to the huge amount of "banned for cheating" chatter that was floating around channel 200 a couple of months ago.
I have no idea what inspired the "banned for cheating" wall of text that paraded through the buffer back then but I made a bad joke about it.
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We werent talking about this but about the fact that you stated that youre an expert in the 262, like it is showed on the screenie. Now youre trying to talk about something else, and hiding behind a fog of "of, it was only a joke". It was really a joke, you could tell it in a PM instead of acting cocky, or in your first comment, instead of trying to counter-attack, calling me all kinds of wussy person. And? I know that i am, but at least not a liar like you.
Every single time you seen me, you took a comment about my cheating software. It is annoying me as its untrue, and you have seen that, thats why you kept spreading that blatant lie again and again. But now its my time to read your deeds on your head. Sorries. Your buddy Ruaml will be the next.
Listen. Its not the goal of life to bash you over and over. Stop spreading those BS stories about me, stop accousing me of being a cheater and i wont be beating this drum any more. This simple.
Edit: yet what are you doing? Making an other thread about the same thing, exactly what you were accousing me of. <shaking head>
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I'm sorry I made fun of the entire arena making fun of you.
Anybody know why I saw long discussions on Debrody getting caught for cheating in the arenas?......I'm sure I saw the discussion.
This is what I was making fun of.........not you.
Did you watch the film in the screenshots forum that ends with you insulting me and spawned your first hate thread?
In both cases, you were the instigator.
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Dear really intelligent representation of the human race,
that BS was called alive by grayclif. If you belive that clown, well, nothing i can say. Be seated - in the madhause.
You werent about mang fun but about to annoy me. Well done. Yet i offer my hand, shake it, shut it, leave me alone and i leave you alone too - you dont want it, you keep attacking. Okay, it wont, cant hurt me, but looks like it hurts you bad enough if you cant leave it as it is. Youre only making fun of yourself.
My "first hate thread" was directed towards all of you clowns, including all the trolls who constantly kept bragging on 200 about how do i suck. Come on dude. Betcha it wasnt on your film how you were bragging on how you utterly owned me, jak vs 190. Big deal. Who cares. Also you said i was picking guys off that field. Then why was i on the deck, suddenly trying to turn with a jak? If you check that film, was it me hoing on the first merge? Can you blame me for hoing back after your 2 head on spray passes? What ever.
If you want to continue this, i can. Post those stuff here, if you want to play. Lie more, more, even more, ignore all the facts and evidences what are just a page earlyer, make yourself look like an idiot.
Go forward.