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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: icepac on September 19, 2013, 09:39:31 AM
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Cell phone connection or not, I issue a challenge to all who have accused me of backing out of a challenge in the dueling arena.
You know who you are so step forward.
The duels will be held at the highest "historic altitudes" of the chosen plane supported by mission reports.
Takeoff will be from a field no higher than 10k above sea level.
Any plane is open and you will raise the possibility of victory by checking my stats and picking a plane I have never flown.
Tune channel 201 and give me a shout because I am moving my entire house worth of stuff and will be away from keyboard off and on.
If I hear you or are at the keyboard, I will answer.......If not, I will scroll the text and get back to you.
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Cell phone connection or not, I issue a challenge to all who have accused me of backing out of a challenge in the dueling arena.
You know who you are so step forward.
The duels will be held at the highest "historic altitudes" of the chosen plane supported by mission reports.
Takeoff will be from a field no higher than 1k above sea level.
Any plane is open and you will raise the possibility of victory by checking my stats and picking a plane I have never flown.
Why put limits which ensure nobody will challenge you? If I wanted to spend 30 minutes climbing I'd jump in a bomber. lol.
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Simple enough. Noone will have the patience to climb to 40k, ergo noone is going to duel him, ergo, he can remain unbeated. Well played, really <shakes head>
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Cell phone connection or not, I issue a challenge to all who have accused me of backing out of a challenge in the dueling arena.
You know who you are so step forward.
The duels will be held at the highest "historic altitudes" of the chosen plane supported by mission reports.
Takeoff will be from a field no higher than 1k above sea level.
Any plane is open and you will raise the possibility of victory by checking my stats and picking a plane I have never flown.
Why the need for all the extra curricular activities? Take off from 2 opposing bases, and meet in the middle. Nobody wants to spend all day climbing to 35k.
Keep it simple, stupid.
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Simple enough. Noone will have the patience to climb to 40k, ergo noone is going to duel him, ergo, he can remain unbeated. Well played, really <shakes head>
This.
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The historic altitudes introduces fuel management into the equation which is just another facet of "realism".
How about you just duel me instead of commenting on why you wont?
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Yeah icepac foreal, why are you trying to waste everyone's time flying to 30k so that when they get on your 6 in 2 seconds, you will most surely run to the deck. Not to mention, no one flys 30k in the MA so it is a waste to even practice from that high up. You haven't played this game long enough to be able to get a decent stick to fly 30k because no one wants to waste their time when they will shoot you down after the first emmulman. Seriously dawg.
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The historic altitudes introduces fuel management into the equation which is just another facet of "realism".
I want to duel with as much realism as possible.
How about you just duel me instead of commenting upon why you wont?
Your a joke. A duel is about shooting the other guy down, not running him out of fuel.
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I changed it to 10k after realizing there are no sea level fields in the arena.
Just show up and duel.
I'm moving this week so will be away from keyboard often but I will stay logged in to the dueling arena.
If I see you talking to me, I will answer.
If I'm not at the keyboard, I won't answer.
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How many Luft v RAF duels were there in WWII? Historically speaking, your a idiot.
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Personally, the best dueling fields are A24/23. Take off, auto pilot until you meet in the middle. No climbing, just flying straight for the middle.
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You've made 3 comments which seems to indicate interest.
Since you have the time to make at least 3 comments, how about you better use that time to show up and duel?
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I changed it to 10k after realizing there are no sea level fields in the arena.
Just show up and duel.
I'm moving this week so will be away from keyboard often but I will stay logged in to the dueling arena.
If I see you talking to me, I will answer.
If I'm not at the keyboard, I won't answer.
Noone wants to play with you, got it? Why?
-you have been successfully played away your name
-noone wants to climb forever only to see you running
-noone on earth thinks climbing for a hour worths that 2 turns while you start running/falling/or you are teared apart
-you do everything to make us not to play with you. Yet you call us as it was us who would not fight with your mightyness. Ergo, you can say, noone have ever beaten you. Are you gayclef or what?
-go play with yourself at 44k. Have fun.
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Just show up and duel.
I will be there at 11:30 EST.
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You've made 3 comments which seems to indicate interest.
Since you have the time to make at least 3 comments, how about you better use that time to show up and duel?
I ll be there but at 200ft. Feel free to dive in from 30K but watch your re-entry speed :O
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Maximum rated altitude of a given aircraft was not the typical combat altitude. The requirement is stupid.
How many Spit XIVs do you think engaged at 43,000ft? The low blown engines in the Spitfire LF.Mk IX and LF.Mk VIII were not so they could fight while gasping for air at 35,000ft. Mosquito Mk VI's rarely broke 20,000ft and not uncommonly didn't break 5,000ft.
The maximum altitude thing is absurd.
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You've made 3 comments which seems to indicate interest.
Since you have the time to make at least 3 comments, how about you better use that time to show up and duel?
:rofl It would be my honor, but please no fake historical references. I'll be on this weekend.
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Your rules about this fuel make me want to stick a screw driver through my temple.
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The maximum altitude thing is absurd.
Just like his whole mind. Its getting delirious.
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I am moving a couple of cars and many of my possessions to a storage facilty today so will be at the keyboard off and on.
Tune to voice channel 201 and yell out.
If I hear you, we can duel but don't bring anger........this is supposed to be fun.
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When will you be online?
I am not climbing to 40k, but I will gladly wait for your arrival to 4k where I will be.
Beware the tailslide to tater shot.
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I am lazy and get bored easily, IceCream. How about this?
- I'll climb to 5K.
- You climb however high you need to feel safe, warm and is an adequate handicap given your limits.
Once you are feeling like you do at night when you are wearing your sexy flannel nightee, come on down and fight. I'll be waiting with open arms and huggies!
Smooches and lollypops!
Fulcrum
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I'm there now.......voice chat channel 201.
Leave your anger at the forums where it belongs.
This is supposed to be fun.
We can throw out ridiculous altitudes like the spitfire 46,000 foot battle over london but I would like to stay near the altitudes that our heros fought.
If robert johnson said he encountered 190s at 29,000 feet, then that is an agreeable altitude.......we can negotiate but I just don't want to end up dueling in a Spit XIV or TA152 with initial merge being at 2000 feet AGL.
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Um...now? I'm at work.
Again, you go ahead and fly up as high as you wish. I'm sure those heros of old would have pounced on the chance to kill a Jerry below them at 5K.
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I think someone have just twinged himself right on the c@ck... again :rofl
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I'll beat the lot of you at running...on 1 foot :cry
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So far only one taker.
Fun fight.
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For $15 I'll duel you whenever you want baby. :)
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A duel is about shooting the other guy down, not running him out of fuel.
unless you're badboy!! :rofl
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jeez this thread is for the retarded, I duel at 10k and let the other person choose the 5 aircrafts, 25% Fuel and same loadout.
No way in hell im spending more then 15 minutes on an entire duel, let alone climbing to Short bus alt just for a fight.
Take it from me, I lose most of the duels, take your bellybutton handing and learn from it, not force others to fly your way.
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Why does the turd in the punch bowl always get so much attention?
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Why does the turd in the punch bowl always get so much attention?
It's important to point the turd out so someone doesn't mistake it for a Baby Ruth bar.
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So wait you want the duel to be in different planes? How is that fair?
Make it same plane same alt. the better one will emerge victorious.
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It's clearly stated.......take it or leave it.
My intent was to make the offer to those who have posted on the forums that I won't duel.
The intent was not to call out the entire forum.
I'll name a few names........Ratio, Fulcrum, Debrody, AKAK/ackack, and a few others who claim I won't duel.
Was on a long phone call with dad so was out of the arena for an hour but will be around sporadically until 12 midnight eastern standard time.
Leave the animosity here and let's have some fun.
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I say better. You in 190D and me in 190D, on the deck, 50% fuel. Here are my terms, let the others judge, whose ones are more acceptable.
Setting up nonsense terms then saying that we dont want to fight only because your terms are stupid, idiotic, pointless, boring, unacceptable, is simply a sign of an insane mind.
Congratulations, you have just pulled a gayclef.
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Meh
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Terms being clarified for the intellectually challenged such as debrody.
Terms are........
Same plane
Ammmo/ord loadout open
Fuel load open
Fights must be near it's highest known altitudes as reported in action reports.
Take off from 2k fields 20 and 23 and meet in the middle at the agreed upon altitude unless distance insufficient for agreed upon altitude.
Two helpful links for altitude data.
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spittest.html
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/
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gaaaay-clef :aok
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So if I wanted to duel you in spit 5s what alt are we talking about?
37,700?
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starting above 15k is a ridiculous waste of time...
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icepac, humour me for a second, this isn't a troll for once...
i have done a bit of duelling in my time in AH but am by no means an expert...
can you (or anyone) explain to me how fuel management is relevant in a 1v1 duel?
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I'm trying hard to think of the last time I climbed to 28K for a "duel"....hhmmmmm
Oh yeah!!!!! A few months back.....in another sim!!!
(http://images8.gry-online.pl/galeria/galeria_duze3/960749515.jpg)
You are easily the strangest cartoon person I have ever encountered in my 8 years playing this game. I used to think ManOWar had that one cornered...but you just rocketed to the top baby!
Congrats, IceTray!
*muted sound of one hand clapping*
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I ll be there but at 200ft. Feel free to dive in from 30K but watch your re-entry speed :O
lmao best reply yet!
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icepac, humour me for a second, this isn't a troll for once...
i have done a bit of duelling in my time in AH but am by no means an expert...
can you (or anyone) explain to me how fuel management is relevant in a 1v1 duel?
It means we won't be grinding around on 25% fuel forever in La7s at 100 feet altitude.
If you don't bring enough fuel, you lose.
Current score is Icepac 1, challengers 0
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Spit Vs' but what alt sir?
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It means we won't be grinding around on 25% fuel forever in La7s at 100 feet altitude.
If you don't bring enough fuel, you lose.
Current score is Icepac 1, challengers 0
It means he's not fighting. It means he's flying you out of fuel. His DA code would: Sackless Echo 2-5
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Score is now Icepac 2, challengers 0
I will let the winners or losers step forward and identify themselves.
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Score is now Icepac 2, challengers 0
I will let the winners or losers step forward and identify themselves.
gaaaay-clef :lol
:rofl
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fuel will not matter when I beat you with better air combat maneuvers and knowledge of the plane set.
I really don't want to waste my time climbing to 30,000 feet when I know I will beat you in a matter of 5 seconds.
you don't have enough credibility to prove you are worthy enough to fly that high for a fight.
you will have no better chance fighting me at 6k than you would at 30k lets be honest here. The fight will still last the same amount of time, however if we do it at 6k,, you wont have to fall so far down when your wing comes off.
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If you don't bring enough fuel, you lose.
Current score is Icepac 1, challengers 0
Where's the film of this? Film, or it didn't happen.
I'd really like to see what you consider a "duel", since your definition seems to differ from the norms accepted by nearly everyone else in the community.
Icepac, is your concept of dueling "run the enemy out of fuel", as opposed to dog-fighting?
The generally accepted definition of a duel is to merge with your enemy and attempt to employ better ACM and gunnery, whereas your approach seems to be trying to avoid that.
If anything, your attempt at calling out "those who say I won't duel" seems to be proving them more right than wrong.
Respectfully,
Ryno
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I'm trying hard to think of the last time I climbed to 28K for a "duel"....hhmmmmm
Oh yeah!!!!! A few months back.....in another sim!!!
(http://images8.gry-online.pl/galeria/galeria_duze3/960749515.jpg)
You are easily the strangest cartoon person I have ever encountered in my 8 years playing this game. I used to think ManOWar had that one cornered...but you just rocketed to the top baby!
Congrats, IceTray!
*muted sound of one hand clapping*
What game is that?
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DCS World - Flaming Cliffs 3 :aok
FYI - That's just a picture I pulled via Google ...it wasnt from the actual session.
I felt the use of a MiG29 picture to be a not-so-suble touch on my part. :D
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Micky is a fricken killer :old:
Now i get really upset when he repeatedy sweeps the floor with me :old:
but the ice-ice baby.. eh...
by the way, tomorrow i might have some time, Micky. Would like to see again, what do you know and i dont :aok
Edit: any angry i get over my lameness, dont give a damn about it. Its in my nature. <S>!
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Come on guys......been there fro 4:45 and only one taker.
I fibbed on the 2:0 to inspire someone to up.
It's currently icepac 1, challengers 0.
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Meh.
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Come on guys......been there fro 4:45 and only one taker.
I fibbed on the 2:0 to inspire someone to up.
It's currently icepac 1, challengers 0.
Sadly you've just outed yourself as a liar with the above statement.
You should probably post the film of the first fight (while you are waiting for others) in order to show you can actually duel. That's the point of your thread, no?
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Come on guys......been there fro 4:45 and only one taker.
I fibbed on the 2:0 to inspire someone to up.
It's currently icepac 1, challengers 0.
Again sir.... my question is if we are doing spit 5s' what alt?
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Again sir.... my question is if we are doing spit 5s' what alt?
60k! If you cant get there, you lost!
gaaay-clef!
:rofl
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Ok...further clarification......all fights at 30k except for known high altitude variants which will be at 35k.
Planes that can't make 30k will fight lower.
link to results and films thread.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,354086.0.html
On my way to dinner with dad now who is in town so fights will have to happen much later tonight or the next few days.
Only one has met the challenge so far in spite of me being in the dueling arena for 5 hours today but I guess most of you are working at this time.
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Only one has met the challenge so far in spite of me being in the dueling arena for 5 hours today but I guess most of you are working at this time.
You had fun there? Yes? Then stay there, please and never come out. :rofl
gaaaay-clef :rofl
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It means he's not fighting. It means he's flying you out of fuel. His DA code would: Sackless Echo 2-5
that was my impression too, but I thought I might be missing something...
I've usually duelled with only 25% fuel in the past, either on the deck or from air spawns in custom arena, and have never had a fight go on long enough to run out of fuel :headscratch: not saying it's not possible as i'm sure the great pilots have much more epic fights, but still...seems odd...
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I've been trying for two hours to get my Storch above 11k....it just won't do it with 100% fuel. On to the C-47 I guess.
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Could just pick I16's
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I think this thread is a blatant troll to everyone and should be dealt with that way.
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Cell phone connection or not, I issue a challenge to all who have accused me of backing out of a challenge in the dueling arena.
You know who you are so step forward.
The duels will be held at the highest "historic altitudes" of the chosen plane supported by mission reports.
Takeoff will be from a field no higher than 10k above sea level.
Any plane is open and you will raise the possibility of victory by checking my stats and picking a plane I have never flown.
Tune channel 201 and give me a shout because I am moving my entire house worth of stuff and will be away from keyboard off and on.
If I hear you or are at the keyboard, I will answer.......If not, I will scroll the text and get back to you.
Stupidest duel I've heard of since Chi challenged me. If you have to specify rules you've already shown your weaknesses.
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I'll name a few names........Ratio, Fulcrum, Debrody, AKAK/ackack, and a few others who claim I won't duel.
It's funny that you offer your challenge and give a time you'll be in the DA knowing that most of us are at work and won't be able to duel. If you want to duel me, then we can set up something this weekend and since you challenged me in this thread, I get first pick of planes and then the winner of the first duel picks, both planes 25% fuel, 8k alt merge and best 3 out of 5. If you really want to show your stuff, we can make the duel even more interesting, the loser pays the winner's month of AH.
ack-ack
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It's funny that you offer your challenge and give a time you'll be in the DA knowing that most of us are at work and won't be able to duel. If you want to duel me, then we can set up something this weekend and since you challenged me in this thread, I get first pick of planes and then the winner of the first duel picks, both planes 25% fuel, 8k alt merge and best 3 out of 5. If you really want to show your stuff, we can make the duel even more interesting, the loser pays the winner's month of AH.
ack-ack
all duelists approve of this message!!! :aok
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all duelists approve of this message!!! :aok
Gets my vote.
Even though it is sometimes humorous, gets old with the egos and all.
Money where mouth is, or you have no credibility! :)
Fully agree with this quote.
Tinkles
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I want my lost time back from opening this thread. :rolleyes:
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Someone let me know when icefap wants to duel.
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I want my lost time back from opening this thread. :rolleyes:
Jebus the drama on this board. Don't blame you Waystin. :lol
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Jebus the drama on this board. Don't blame you Waystin. :lol
YEP. There is drama, and then there is artificially created look at me drama like this... :frown:
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Waystin:
I'll duel you for your lost time.
Between 2:45AM and 2:57AM eastern
Between 33K and 34.2K
Stall limiter on until we have engaged 30 seconds then it must be off
P38s with two engines on climb out but only 1 engine after the merge
Sunglasses required
Only valid kill is removing the left wing of opponent
You must accept in the next 20 seconds or you forfeit
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I win
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Damn I missed your challenge.... :bhead :rofl
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Waystin:
I'll duel you for your lost time.
Between 2:45AM and 2:57AM eastern
Between 33K and 34.2K
Stall limiter on until we have engaged 30 seconds then it must be off
P38s with two engines on climb out but only 1 engine after the merge
Sunglasses required
Only valid kill is removing the left wing of opponent
You must accept in the next 20 seconds or you forfeit
bwahaha
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Waystin:
I'll duel you for your lost time.
Between 2:45AM and 2:57AM eastern
Between 33K and 34.2K
Stall limiter on until we have engaged 30 seconds then it must be off
P38s with two engines on climb out but only 1 engine after the merge
Sunglasses required
Only valid kill is removing the left wing of opponent
You must accept in the next 20 seconds or you forfeit
that is the most interesting thing I've ever heard lol
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Waystin:
I'll duel you for your lost time.
Between 2:45AM and 2:57AM eastern
Between 33K and 34.2K
Stall limiter on until we have engaged 30 seconds then it must be off
P38s with two engines on climb out but only 1 engine after the merge
Sunglasses required
Only valid kill is removing the left wing of opponent
You must accept in the next 20 seconds or you forfeit
:rofl
:aok
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why go there (DA) in the 1st place, it proves.............nothing
wait....you can put it on a resume....I won a dogfight in a cartoon game :bhead
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surely it proves who is better at cartoon flying?
just like the MA proves absolutely nothing in terms of how many guys it can take to horde a field or win the war.
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It's funny that you offer your challenge and give a time you'll be in the DA knowing that most of us are at work and won't be able to duel. If you want to duel me, then we can set up something this weekend and since you challenged me in this thread, I get first pick of planes and then the winner of the first duel picks, both planes 25% fuel, 8k alt merge and best 3 out of 5. If you really want to show your stuff, we can make the duel even more interesting, the loser pays the winner's month of AH.
ack-ack
Under 38k icepac is a nobody, above it he's the only one there, he's always got his head in the stars... Or his ass, I can never tell which.
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why go there (DA) in the 1st place, it proves.............nothing
wait....you can put it on a resume....I won a dogfight in a cartoon game :bhead
Okay. Let me explain it to you.
Some people go there to grow their cartoon balls even bigger. Like Rufio/BadBoy. And this ice ice baby too.
Some other people go there to improve their moves, etc.
And there are some people who find fun in flying against their friends in sterile circumstances.
Is it that hard to understand, after 12 years of playing this game?
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Don't expect a bomber guy to get it Deb. :uhoh
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why go there (DA) in the 1st place, it proves.............nothing
wait....you can put it on a resume....I won a dogfight in a cartoon game :bhead
This is the battle cry of the insanely untalented AHer. Stick to speed and spray and pray stay in the kids room while the adults are discussing fighting please.
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Ooohhhh bytchez.... Who wants to do some deck merges in the weeds.... Around 7ish pm est....
Hmmmm?? :neener: :joystick: :devil
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Ooohhhh bytchez.... Who wants to do some deck merges in the weeds.... Around 7ish pm est....
Hmmmm?? :neener: :joystick: :devil
I still owe you a round, Stickster. Likely can't make 7pm...how about 8:30ish? Anything earlier and I'll start getting those looks again from the significant other. :uhoh
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This is the battle cry of the insanely untalented AHer. Stick to speed and spray and pray stay in the kids room while the adults are discussing fighting please.
now i have to wonder what "talent"??? is that like jumping on one foot while patting your head with one hand and playing with your winky with the other?
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now i have to wonder what "talent"??? is that like jumping on one foot while patting your head with one hand and playing with your winky with the other?
I just checked and confirmed I am not able to perform this task to specifications. :frown: I feel the described process is too complex.
After performing some Six Sigma analysis I was able to streamline the procedure and eliminate unnecessary subfunctions.
I can now achieve the desired..... *ahem* ..outcome...by performing only one of the three described subfunctions and am much happier. :D
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I still owe you a round, Stickster. Likely can't make 7pm...how about 8:30ish? Anything earlier and I'll start getting those looks again from the significant other. :uhoh
8:30 it is... Bring the boy if his homework and chores are done. He can mix it up with us or play follow the leader with us while we fight. :neener:
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I just checked and confirmed I am not able to perform this task to specifications. :frown: I feel the described process is too complex.
After performing some Six Sigma analysis I was able to streamline the procedure and eliminate unnecessary subfunctions.
I can now achieve the desired..... *ahem* ..outcome...by performing only one of the three described subfunctions and am much happier. :D
:huh blasted six sigma...always getting in the way of maximum effort. :lol
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I just checked and confirmed I am not able to perform this task to specifications. :frown: I feel the described process is too complex.
After performing some Six Sigma analysis I was able to streamline the procedure and eliminate unnecessary subfunctions.
I can now achieve the desired..... *ahem* ..outcome...by performing only one of the three described subfunctions and am much happier. :D
It took me several reads to figure this one out, then I laughed for a good 3 minutes.....
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Sometimes complexity...is the best comedy. :D
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7 pages later..I'm still riveted..I need professional help :O :D
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I want my lost time back from opening this thread. :rolleyes:
Waystin:
I'll duel you for your lost time.
Between 2:45AM and 2:57AM eastern
Between 33K and 34.2K
Stall limiter on until we have engaged 30 seconds then it must be off
P38s with two engines on climb out but only 1 engine after the merge
Sunglasses required
Only valid kill is removing the left wing of opponent
You must accept in the next 20 seconds or you forfeit
These right here....cost me a soda.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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why go there (DA) in the 1st place, it proves.............nothing
wait....you can put it on a resume....I won a dogfight in a cartoon game :bhead
Believe it or not dueling can teach a person quite a bit about dogfighting. Merges, energy management, throttle control, gunnery, learning how to fight in a stalled situation ...so on and so forth. I for one find dueling a better learning tool than asking a trainer for help. There are so many good cartoon sticks out there and they all seem to have a different bag of tricks, so IMO someone can learn more quicker.
If you want to get better at dogfighting this is how to go about it. If that's not your goal that's fine too.
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Believe it or not dueling can teach a person quite a bit about dogfighting. Merges, energy management, throttle control, gunnery, learning how to fight in a stalled situation ...so on and so forth. I for one find dueling a better learning tool than asking a trainer for help. There are so many good cartoon sticks out there and they all seem to have a different bag of tricks, so IMO someone can learn more quicker.
If you want to get better at dogfighting this is how to go about it. If that's not your goal that's fine too.
Fight everyone & anyone and you can..... Learn more than one trick :devil
+1 for your post sir. :salute
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Believe it or not dueling can teach a person quite a bit about dogfighting. Merges, energy management, throttle control, gunnery, learning how to fight in a stalled situation ...so on and so forth. I for one find dueling a better learning tool than asking a trainer for help. There are so many good cartoon sticks out there and they all seem to have a different bag of tricks, so IMO someone can learn more quicker.
If you want to get better at dogfighting this is how to go about it. If that's not your goal that's fine too.
85% of fights in the MA, DA or TA are won on the merge. But if you don't 1 v 1, you'll continue to get beat in the MA by people that understand this. There is one more trick to winning...you need to be able to look back side, straight back and and back UP and fly at the same time.
Changeup's helpful hints to keep him from stomping your ass.
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Believe it or not dueling can teach a person quite a bit about dogfighting. Merges, energy management, throttle control, gunnery, learning how to fight in a stalled situation ...so on and so forth. I for one find dueling a better learning tool than asking a trainer for help. There are so many good cartoon sticks out there and they all seem to have a different bag of tricks, so IMO someone can learn more quicker.
If you want to get better at dogfighting this is how to go about it. If that's not your goal that's fine too.
DA never taught me to fight, its a great tool to learn ACM however I know some awesome dogfighters who can't live 15 minutes in an FSO. The Main arena helps with this, jump into a furball with a less then decent aircraft, learn SA and survival tactics.
When you combine the MA, Scenarios and DA - you become a much better pilot then simply the DA.
Once you learn to balance the three out, you become a much better pilot IMO. Honestly if you can break even in the DA, you are doing just fine.
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DA never taught me to fight, its a great tool to learn ACM however I know some awesome dogfighters who can't live 15 minutes in an FSO.
Please name name's.
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Please name name's.
this isn't a shame thread, everyone should known their strengths and weaknesses themselves. I admit I should of flown in the DA more with TopGun, but it was screwing up my Scenario flying when I wanted to play down and dirty with one aircraft rather then a dozen.
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The historic altitudes introduces fuel management into the equation which is just another facet of "realism".
How about you just duel me instead of commenting on why you wont?
Tell you what you want realism ill do http://aircombat.com winner pays the other mans bill. I have done this so be ready Mr realism and lets see what you really got.
BTW look for Eace he will fight you like that because that's all he does.
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Tell you what you want realism ill do http://aircombat.com winner pays the other mans bill. I have done this so be ready Mr realism and lets see what you really got.
BTW look for Eace he will fight you like that because that's all he does.
iko I'll take that challenge :neener: maybe I'll do better in a real plane lol
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Tell you what you want realism ill do http://aircombat.com winner pays the other mans bill. I have done this so be ready Mr realism and lets see what you really got.
BTW look for Eace he will fight you like that because that's all he does.
I've always wanted to do this. I'd take the challenge, but I know iKo would crush me like a beer can and then I'd have to deal with explaining the cost to the family CFO i.e. my wife.
There are somethings in life I fear worse than death.... :uhoh
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I've always wanted to do this. I'd take the challenge, but I know iKo would crush me like a beer can and then I'd have to deal with explaining the cost to the family CFO i.e. my wife.
There are somethings in life I fear worse than death.... :uhoh
LOL ya but it would be one heck of a ride until you got home :rofl
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LOL yeeeeehaaaaaaa
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Icepac is strangely absent.
ack-ack
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Icepac is strangely absent.
ack-ack
He pm'd in game yesterday sayin I said I was ducking him, when in reality he mis-read my post completely.
I think he got a paid vacation, via the skuzzzinator
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Believe it or not dueling can teach a person quite a bit about dogfighting. Merges, energy management, throttle control, gunnery, learning how to fight in a stalled situation ...so on and so forth. I for one find dueling a better learning tool than asking a trainer for help. There are so many good cartoon sticks out there and they all seem to have a different bag of tricks, so IMO someone can learn more quicker.
If you want to get better at dogfighting this is how to go about it. If that's not your goal that's fine too.
bottom line....it's just a cartoon game........fun but in the end just a game. To call anyone into the "DA" is just ( can I say it) why not, never been banned "stupid" :cheers:
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'Camelot!'
'Camelot!'
'Camelot!'
'It's only a model.'
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On second thought, let's not go to Camelot...'tis a silly place.
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Icepac is strangely absent.
ack-ack
i'm sure once everyone is back at work he'll return to this thread ;)
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He has to, he is going to make a recording of his father confirming his Mig kill and the like about other things he has claimed.
I'm sure I am not the only one awaiting his return and revelations with baited breath.
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I think he got a paid vacation, via the skuzzzinator
Awwwww!
I think we need to start a petition...
(http://www.theupperhandart.com/icp_free_icecream1.png)
Attica! Attica! Attica!
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Awwwww!
I think we need to start a petition...
(http://www.theupperhandart.com/icp_free_icecream1.png)
Attica! Attica! Attica!
:rofl :aok
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Awwwww!
I think we need to start a petition...
(http://www.theupperhandart.com/icp_free_icecream1.png)
Attica! Attica! Attica!
lol at that pic.
Anyways, this thread was a huge wIN from the ice-ice baby.
:ahand
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lol at that pic.
Anyways, this thread was a huge wIN from the ice-ice baby.
:ahand
I see what you did there. INcredible to say the least
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He's melting. He's melting.
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Icepac is strangely absent.
ack-ack
He is busy cleaning his mothers basement and feeding her Bichon's.
"ICY!! Can momma get a cup of hot cocoa?????"
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"Hot pockets!"