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Title: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: captain1ma on September 22, 2013, 08:17:34 PM


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Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: skorpx1 on September 22, 2013, 08:18:39 PM
As if four 30mm tater guns aren't already enough...
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Zacherof on September 22, 2013, 08:27:21 PM
As if four 30mm tater guns aren't already enough...

It would almost be pointless.
As a bomber killer it's mk108 is fine. For tank killing th bk would be difficult due to the speed of the airframe
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: skorpx1 on September 22, 2013, 08:28:58 PM
It would almost be pointless.
As a bomber killer it's mk108 is fine. For tank killing th bk would be difficult due to the speed of the airframe

The only practical use for that 50mm on a 262 is for stabbing B-17's and B-24's with it. Just sharpen the muzzle and you're good to go!
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Karnak on September 22, 2013, 08:30:44 PM
The service trial was considered unsatisfactory and it was not proceeded with.  It was very much the same as the YB-40, given a service trial, not proceeded with due to unsatisfactory results.  Neither should be in AH.

Me262 with R4M as an option would be nice though.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Rino on September 22, 2013, 09:25:15 PM
     I seriously think the R4M would hurt gameplay.  No bomber would want to go past frontline
fields, especially not any bomber with a perk.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Zacherof on September 22, 2013, 10:18:25 PM
     I seriously think the R4M would hurt gameplay.  No bomber would want to go past frontline
fields, especially not any bomber with a perk.
Well that's just a risk their going to have to take
The service trial was considered unsatisfactory and it was not proceeded with.  It was very much the same as the YB-40, given a service trial, not proceeded with due to unsatisfactory results.  Neither should be in AH.

Me262 with R4M as an option would be nice though.
IIRC, some 190's used them
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: GScholz on September 23, 2013, 09:39:52 AM
Technically all 190s could carry them.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Denniss on September 23, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
AFAIR they were used by some Fw 190D against bombers and some radial-engined version vs ground targets (Panzerblitz variant).
There were just one or two Me 262 with two different 5cm cannon tested.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: VonMessa on September 23, 2013, 01:15:38 PM
I would like on on my Jeep, as well.

Wonder what the PA state police would have to say about it...
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Zacherof on September 23, 2013, 06:10:45 PM
I would like on on my Jeep, as well.

Wonder what the PA state police would have to say about it...
Or a bazooka :banana:
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Rino on September 24, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
Well that's just a risk their going to have to takeIIRC, some 190's used them

     The problem being is that in real life there are practical limits to the numbers of R4Ms available.
Since we magically get new aircraft and ordnance every time we reup, there are no limits.

     Nice of you to think of other players though  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: GScholz on September 24, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
The supply of 262s to carry them is limited in the game though.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: RngFndr on September 25, 2013, 07:17:40 AM
If ya want that, how about the JU88 with the PAK40 in the gondola???
Lets go all the way!
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: save on October 11, 2013, 09:23:21 AM
well consider how many la-7 with 3 guns where available IRL....
A bad thing for the allied bomber crews was they did not knew that it was rockets killing them according to the book "Luftwaffe over Germany".

The rockets where not seen until they hit, and allied crew thought they where being killed by ground-ack.

     The problem being is that in real life there are practical limits to the numbers of R4Ms available.
Since we magically get new aircraft and ordnance every time we reup, there are no limits.

     Nice of you to think of other players though  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: Spirit on October 16, 2013, 01:04:55 PM
Well another hint that the Führer really wasted the Me262 capabilities by forcing Luftwaffe to use it mostly as a bomber... :huh
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: DaveBB on October 19, 2013, 10:42:31 AM
well consider how many la-7 with 3 guns where available IRL....
A bad thing for the allied bomber crews was they did not knew that it was rockets killing them according to the book "Luftwaffe over Germany".

The rockets where not seen until they hit, and allied crew thought they where being killed by ground-ack.


That might have been true in some cases.  I read (can't remember the name of the book) that one B17 saw the rockets being fired at it (must have been the tail gunner reporting it to the pilot), and tried to evade the rockets.  While doing this, it collided with another B17.  So without any rockets hitting, two B17s were lost.

Here is a video of a Bf-110 that has used 21cm rockets to attack a B17.  They are the black puffs of smoke the B17 is surrounded by.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljnBwoIgmJg  The 110 continues on and attacks the B17 with cannons.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: save on October 19, 2013, 06:27:35 PM
The r4m did not reveal any smoke unlike its predecessors.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: bortas1 on October 20, 2013, 08:48:41 AM
 :salute when I was a kid I had a model of a 262 with bombs to put on them if you wanted that option.
Title: Re: i think this should be added to the ME-262
Post by: save on October 20, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Here is a video of a Bf-110 that has used 21cm rockets to attack a B17.  They are the black puffs of smoke the B17 is surrounded by.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljnBwoIgmJg  The 110 continues on and attacks the B17 with cannons.

In here the 110 are just being outpaced, you can do one head-on then you spend like 10minutes trying to catch them after.