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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Vulcan on October 10, 2013, 10:40:28 PM
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That's right, the Red Cross is after you!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/games/9262873/Should-video-games-penalise-war-crimes
War has laws; why can't war games reflect them?
It's a simple question that the International Committee of the Red Cross has been weighing for nearly two years.
Under the Geneva Conventions, the Red Cross is mandated to protect the victims of international and internal armed conflict.
During the 31st International Conference of the Red Cross and Red Crescent in Geneva in 2011, a committee discussed whether the Geneva and Hague conventions should be applied to the fictional recreation of war in video games.
:D
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*insert facepalm picture here*
Shirley you can't be serious?
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*insert facepalm picture here*
Shirley you can't be serious?
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc473/UnkShadow/3rdPartyFacepalm.jpg)
There you go. :D
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See Rule #6
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hand me in now.
A former squad I was in during my time in FA did it for sport because it was frowned on. I still pop the odd chute just to help the guy get back in the tower quicker and to keep my aim sharp!
Churchill said it was ok to shoot red cross planes if they had Germans in them so I'll stand by that!
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*insert facepalm picture here*
Shirley you can't be serious?
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/dougfm/Fark/shirley.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/dougfm/media/Fark/shirley.jpg.html)
:lol
Coogan
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That's right, the Red Cross is after you!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/games/9262873/Should-video-games-penalise-war-crimes
:D
you are wrong. everybody in a chute has a .45 fully loaded in his hand and ready to shoot. in combat that is considered a legal target. if the guy in the chute was to drop his gun then it would be illegal.
semp
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Hasn't the .45 got more kills than the spit 1 in LWMA?
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So WW2 games should use the laws prior to the Geneva Convention?
Aka kill em all
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(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i189/dougfm/Fark/shirley.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/dougfm/media/Fark/shirley.jpg.html)
:lol
Coogan
That's what it reminded me of too :lol
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So.......its ok to shoot chutes? :x
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So WW2 games should use the laws prior to the Geneva Convention?
Aka kill em all
way off boss it started in 1864.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
semp
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you are wrong. everybody in a chute has a .45 fully loaded in his hand and ready to shoot. in combat that is considered a legal target. if the guy in the chute was to drop his gun then it would be illegal.
semp
Actually the Convention states you cannot engage pilots and crew that are exiting damaged aircraft, but it is legitimate to engage parachutists that are descending to attack you.
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Actually the Convention states you cannot engage pilots and crew that are exiting damaged aircraft, but it is legitimate to engage parachutists that are descending to attack you.
This is an interesting event, if true.
Please continue... (saves all that google time for me)
Coogan
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Chutes descending over enemy territory should be considered potential spies / saboteurs!
All spies should be shot! :ahand
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Actually the Convention states you cannot engage pilots and crew that are exiting damaged aircraft, but it is legitimate to engage parachutists that are descending to attack you.
a pilot bailing out of an aircraft with a gun in his hand aiming and possible shooting at anything that gets near is a legitimate target. sorry vietnam era rules do not apply here.
semp
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If two planes cannot be in the same space and time in AH, where does the bullet factor come in....
Pretty deep, right?
Coogan
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At least they aren't proposing a global tax on all manufacturers of violent games to offset the cost of on going research to help us play violent video games nicer, yet.
Don't get worried until they figure out an angle for politicians and bureaucrats to make money by imposing it on us. By then it won't matter how hair brained of an idea it really is. Coverage of this hasn't yet made it up to the level of Reuters or the Daily Mail or the Guardian. At least then WHO will have announced discovering a new global threat to protect us from with a tax. Our mental health because of violent video games.
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LOL@Red Cross.
ack-ack
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way off boss it started in 1864.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
semp
Your link refers to the portion of the Geneva Convention I was referring to...which was post WW2. The same one that governs LOW these days.....
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Chutes descending over enemy territory should be considered potential spies / saboteurs!
All spies should be shot! :ahand
^^^^^^^^^^^ this :cheers:
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:rofl :rofl
For real?
:cheers: Oz
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MMMMMMM.....Chutes. :devil
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So an international body is going to dramatically expand treaty powers to regulate American firms? H*** no!!
Boo
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This will also require that TV and movie actors face the same penalties.
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This will also require that TV and movie actors face the same penalties.
Especially Tom Cruise (hopefully).
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Depends on which countries are signed up to the Hague convention.
Luft pilots should be allowed to shoot Russian chutes for historical accuracy :old:
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well since the geneva convention or the red cross do not apply here in this cartoon game--i will shoot parachutes if i want--but i usually don't....but what difference does it make--once you r out of the plane-the shooter still gets the kill for u. :airplane:
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Historically geneva convention just serves as the apparatus the victor uses to persecute the loser and legitimize the victor. That's why the only side that worries about being compliant with the laws of war is the side that knows it's going to lose. How many allied generals would've been tried as war criminals if the axis won? You think if Saddam would've won the gulf war he wouldn't have Schwarzkopf arrested for war crimes? Laws governing the conduct of war are about as useful as laws governing the conduct of crime. Whenever I see the phrase "war crimes", I think "crime crimes". Wars happen because one or both parties are ignoring the law, so lets make laws telling us the appropriate way to ignore law.
Basically what I'm saying is bring it on red cross if you think you can stop me.
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I might just go flying around with the intent on shooting chutes, film it and then send it to the IRC. To bad we no longer have the church to bomb in the towns.
ack-ack
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Dead men tell tales in AH. :old:
To bad we no longer have the church to bomb in the towns.
ack-ack
There still is a Church isn't there? :headscratch: Looks like a gothic Cathedral.
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I think ya'll are misunderstanding what the redcross is saying. I think what they are saying is pointless but its at least not as stupid as saying that video game players should be penalized for war crimes. They are saying that combat oriented video games are sanitized violence and they think that given how popular they are maybe if the violence wasn't so sanitized it would help people understand war crimes in context, as opposed to something the Narzis did.
The problem with their idea, as far as i'm concerned, is that the whole point of video game combat is that it IS sanitized. Who would want to play a video game that made you feel bad about playing? Imagine the law suits over video game caused ptsd.
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I feel bad for all the baby seals I bash!
It only lasts for all of 3 seconds tho!