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Title: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: Skyguns MKII on October 12, 2013, 07:17:46 PM

Alrighty guys so im currently in school to become a flight maintenance technician. I need to find material on a crash for a PowerPoint presentation that is at least 10 mins long. I need to include how it happened (both human error and aircraft failure), why it happened, and how it could of been prevented. Must be found on FAA data and research records http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/. I considered doing Hughes xf11 flight but nothing came up on FAA and im not surprised due to the fact of how old the incident is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1aKNy7hBV4 . Basicly guys i just want an interesting topic i can find on FAA records. So if any of you have some interesting recommendations on a interesting crash im all yours. Not asking for you guys to do my HW just need a hand finding a topic rich with material that will drag my attention and those whom i am showing.  :salute

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: HL117 on October 12, 2013, 10:13:55 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232)

Maintenance directly contributed to this accident, specifically; in shop inspection process failed in detecting the crack.

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: Skyguns MKII on October 12, 2013, 10:23:15 PM

i like that one and will probably use it. I am also interesting in the one that had a aircraft land on a drag strip if anybody recalls. that one is a bit famous.

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: saggs on October 12, 2013, 10:44:01 PM

Well that Hughes incident predated the FAA by many years, so no they're not likely to have info on it.

There are many famous crashes that come to mind which are directly attributable to maintenance failures.  Off the top of my head, there is the Alaska MD-80 that went in the pacific because of failure to lube the horizontal stab jacksrew;  or the Concorde that went down in flames after hitting FOD on takeoff which fell off a continental plane because it was improperly installed;  or the British Airways flight where the pilot was blown out the window because it was installed with the wrong hardware; or the JAL 747 where the tail came off in flight because of an improperly repaired tailstrike from months before; or the DC-10 (can't remember the operator) where the engine and pylon came off because they didn't follow the proper QEC procedures.

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: pembquist on October 12, 2013, 10:48:46 PM

Alaska Airlines 261 https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/summary/AAR0201.html (https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/summary/AAR0201.html)

Just inexcusable result of trying to save money on maintenance.

Valujet 592. Personally I think it's more of the same cost cutting erosion of safety culture but excellent article has more nuanced take on it http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/03/the-lessons-of-valujet-592/306534/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/03/the-lessons-of-valujet-592/306534/)

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: artik on October 13, 2013, 01:43:55 AM

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Alrighty guys so im currently in school to become a flight maintenance technician

First of all, good luck...

I suggest the Air-crash investigation series by National Geographic...

For your presentation, this case is probably the classic case of maintenance fault - that could be easily prevented if the one of the most basic procedures had been followed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Express_Flight_2574 (you'll find there references to NTSB investigation)

i.e. ALLWAYS open an issue (sorry I don't know exact English term) for removing stuff from aircraft or doing anything on it so, it wouldn't be forgotten.

Also, you would learn a lot of cases in the school... Watch carefully, it is demanding job but it is also rewarding.

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 13, 2013, 07:27:55 AM

Quote from: Skyguns MKII on October 12, 2013, 10:23:15 PM

i like that one and will probably use it. I am also interesting in the one that had a aircraft land on a drag strip if anybody recalls. that one is a bit famous.

google gimli glider for that one.

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: Scherf on October 13, 2013, 08:52:06 AM

Gawd, there's an Air Crash Investigations proggie where part X is substituted with part Xa - difference of a few millimeters allows fluid to pass... aaaarrghg can't remember it.

This one has a direct link to inspections, anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDp3ohzwGY

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: Scherf on October 13, 2013, 09:06:37 AM

Found it - Air Transat 236.

Trouble is, it's an Airbus, based in Canada, which glided in to an airport in Portugese territory, don't know if the FAA will have anything on it.

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: Megalodon on October 13, 2013, 11:47:03 AM

PSA Flight 182

 :salute

Title: Re: some help finding aviation crash data?
Post by: Golfer on October 14, 2013, 12:32:34 AM

Lear 60 at CAE

CRM, engineering, command vs experience and fatigue all wrapped in a single package.