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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: XxDaSTaRxx on October 15, 2013, 06:46:25 PM
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German Heavy Bomber. (http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh212/727Kiwi/WW2/He274Luftwaffe.jpg)
General characteristics
Crew: 4 (pilot, second-pilot/navigator/bomb-aimer, and two gunners)
Length: 23.80 m (78 ft 1¼ in)
Wingspan: 44.19 m (145 ft 0 in)
Height: 5.50 m (18 ft 0½ in)
Wing area: 170.00 m² (1,829.86 ft²)
Empty weight: 21,300 kg (46,958 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 38,000 kg (83,776 lb)
Powerplant: 4× Daimler-Benz DB 603A 12-cylinder inverted-vee engine, 1,750 PS (1,726 hp; 1,287 kW) each
Performance
Maximum speed: 580 km/h (360 mph) at 11,000 m (36,090 ft)
Range: 3,440 km (2,137 mi)
Service ceiling: 14,300 m (46,920 ft)
Rate of climb: 237 m/min (780 ft/min)
Armament
Guns: 5 x 13mm MG 131 machine guns, one in nose, and twin guns in single dorsal and ventral Fernbedienbare Drehlafette FDL 131Z remotely operated gun turrets
Bombs: up to 4,000 kg (8,818 lb) of disposable stores in two internal bomb bays
Never really saw service as it was deemed too expensive and a "waste of fighter parts"... Seeming as the 111 never gets used, we likely won't see this, but still <Insert good reason to put it in AH2 Here>
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Never really saw service
That's an understatement. The only prototype ever build was actually finished by the French post war.
Legend has it that it could bomb continental USA.
Exactly that, a legend. Range wasn't even remotely near the requirement for such a mission.
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Exactly that, a legend. Range wasn't even remotely near the requirement for such a mission.
Did a bit of research and proved myself wrong. Cheers.
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That's an understatement. The only prototype ever build was actually finished by the French post war.
The plans for it (apparently) were on Goering's desk in 1942. Goering believed it was "a waste of fighter parts"... As which he felt the same for most German buff designs.
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Well <sigh> .... look on the bright side .... We can still play with this one.
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Einon/Heinkel-He-274/he-274_ready_to_take_off.jpg)
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Well <sigh> .... look on the bright side .... We can still play with this one.
(http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Einon/Heinkel-He-274/he-274_ready_to_take_off.jpg)
:rofl
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Seeming as the 111 never gets used,
Whatchoo talkin bout???
best bomber perk producer ever
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Whatchoo talkin bout???
best bomber perk producer ever
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/Aces%20High%20Motivational%20Posters/he111.jpg~original)
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best bomber perk producer ever
If you look at the numbers, the He 111 is actually not a very efficient perk farmer...
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If you look at the numbers, the He 111 is actually not a very efficient perk farmer...
I'd guess Ki-67 or G4M1 are the best bomber perk producers.
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I'd guess Ki-67 or G4M1 are the best bomber perk producers.
IIRC, Lusche has said the Boston has the greatest theoretical perk/hr yield of any bomber in the game.
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If you look at the numbers, the He 111 is actually not a very efficient perk farmer...
20 points for 1.5 town centers and land sortie. At least it was the last time I flew it.
That was with 11kish damage
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20 points for 1.5 town centers and land sortie. At least it was the last time I flew it.
That was with 11kish damage
But you need to account for a bombers bomb load and its OBJ. Speed and climb are important too. The only thing the He111 has going for it is a pretty good sized bomb load.
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IIRC, Lusche has said the Boston has the greatest theoretical perk/hr yield of any bomber in the game.
I found the Boston's fuel endurance to be dodgy.
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What do you mean by efficient, perks per time, per sortie, per destruction? I'm not a reliable witness but I have been impressed with the perk score using the 111. Can you supply the identity of the most efficient perk farmer and its efficiency criteria? I'd like to know if the he111 is efficient per sortie as that's what I was going by based solely on experience and bomb load to obj. Thanks.
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When perk farming, you are looking for get as much perks in as little time as possible. 20 perks in one sortie taking 60 minutes would be less efficient than making the same in two sorties taking a total of 40 minutes only.
So a bombers rank as a perk farmer is depending on bombload, OBJ (which determines the perks per destroyed object) and the ability to apply that bombload (getting to targets and most preferably getting home as well for the 25% perk bonus).
The He 111 has about he same bomb load as the B-26, but only a very slightly higher OBJ - 23 vs 20. So both bombers can get about the same number of perks for bombing, but the B-26 is much faster and better armed, it has a much better chance to survive the whole bombing run.
A G4M has only about half the bomb load, but almost twice the OBJ, so it has to bomb fewer targets than the He 111 for the same perk gain. On top of that, the G4M can quickly dart to altitude, it can rocket to 20k, drop on one or two front bases and be home while the He 111 is still struggling to get any altitude.
Just for the record, the highest perk gain I ever got for a bombing run was 110 perks in the Ki-67. Of course at that time the perk bonus modifier was quite high, you can't get that under normal circumstances.
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That's an understatement. The only prototype ever build was actually finished by the French post war.
Two prototypes actually, they were used extensively by the French as experimental platforms until the early fifties.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7150/112co.jpg)
(http://www.wwiiaircraftphotos.com/LCBW11/He274-12f-s.jpg)
Just get the regular He-177A5.
(http://www.wwiiaircraftphotos.com/LCBW5/He177-A3-8.jpg)