Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: earl1937 on October 23, 2013, 11:30:01 AM
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:airplane: I am not a computer whiz, by any streach of the imagination, so I may be talking about something that would not improve this great game. I was thinking about all those aircraft and vehicles which sit in the hangars and are never used. Would it be of any benefit to delete those aircraft and vehicles which are not used very much, such as the Spit 1, P-38G, 110C-4B, A6M2, C-202, F.1 Camel, Hurricane MK I, Sea Hurricane MK I, JU-87D-3.
Would that make it easier for AH to replace these aircraft with other things which would be of more use?
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Would that make it easier for AH to replace these aircraft with other things which would be of more use?
No, not at all.
Besides, there will always be planes & GV at the bottom of the usage list. And furthermore, all the planes you mention are being used and get hundreds to thousands of kills & deaths per tour.
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I don't really see the point in deleting something that previously had a lot of work put in to create them. Counter-productive really. Deleting one aircraft doesn't make another appear instantly, the same work and effort would still have to be put in to making the new one. All you'd be doing is removing a lot of variety which is something which would detract from the game.
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Ever heard the phrase "One mans scrap is another mans treasure"?
Yes they are hardly used, but all of my favourite rides are in your list of planes to delete. If HT did this, I would leave. I like the challange of the EW planes, to the point my squad asked who was flying my handle when I jumped in a 190 once. Anything post 1941 I don't touch. Main fighters are 109E, Spit1, A6M. Main bomber is 111.
What benifit would you get from removing the planes? Other than driving off some players?
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I think earl thinks there's limited space or something..
earl. there is essentially unlimited space in computers these days.. no need to get rid of anything to make room for something else..
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No need.. You may want to take a few of those out for a test drive. The MA ones are great perk farmers. With the exception of the camel, I am pretty sure I have gotten a kill in each of the ones you want to get rid of since I started. Taking a less than uber ride out and winning is a great feeling.
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With the exception of the camel, I am pretty sure I have gotten a kill in each of the ones you want to get rid of since I started.
That made me look up my own numbers... got 1446 kills in those planes Earl mentioned (excluding DA, AvA & special events) :joystick:
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P-38G is a hanger queen? :rofl
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P-38G is a hanger queen? :rofl
Not after Dan is through with it. :bolt:
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I think earl thinks there's limited space or something..
earl. there is essentially unlimited space in computers these days.. no need to get rid of anything to make room for something else..
:eek: :rolleyes: Well, then I stand corrected gentleman, as I pointed out, I am not a computer whiz, I can turn it on and off, but was thinking that may be one of the reasons Aces High doesn't add some of these good ideas to improve the game! Sorry I bothered you guys, but not thinking straight these days.
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It's ok, Earl. This has been something that's apparently weighed on your mind for awhile. I'm glad the community could help. :salute :cheers:
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I'm impressed there are no snarky remarks and a flame-war currently raging. :D
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There shouldn't be. Earl offers these recommendations in genuine sincerity. He has a lot on his plate, in real life, and I appreciate the time he offers us.
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There shouldn't be. Earl offers these recommendations in genuine sincerity. He has a lot on his plate, in real life, and I appreciate the time he offers us.
Well said Arlo! :rock
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I'm impressed there are no snarky remarks and a flame-war currently raging. :D
The major differance between this wish and the many others that have come before it is the respect that Earl has on these boards. He is constantly imparting a lot of useful information and just genuinely want us to understand the planes and the period a bit better. He is never condescending and is always respectful to all posters. Respect earns respect. Because of this people are willing to be abit more forgiving when he posts a wish.
Maybe a lesson to all new posters. Treat others well and you in turn will be treated well.
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Maybe a lesson to all new posters. Treat others well and you in turn will be treated well.
New and not so new.
A lesson I'm striving to take to heart, more and more. It's one thing to tease back and forth with a fellow player/forum member, both realizing it's in jest and maintaining respect, none-the-less and another to be looking for a fight (for whatever reason).
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The one thing I have learnt Arlo is that you should not just look to gain information from this community. People will look at you in a differant light if you give something back. I know nothing about history that people here don't already know, so that is why I try to repay my debt to people like lusche, Earl and many others by adding one or two skins to the game.
I personally hold you with quite high respect, simply by the way you conduct yourself on the boards. Don't think we've met in the MA, mainly due to the fact I hardly fly, but from what I see of your posts, I respect you. Many others do not have my respect for the way they act here. Similarly there are a few people I have had respect for from their actions in the MA that have subsequently lost it by their posts here.
Always try to help out those who help you. If you think you know an interesting fact, post it. Never know, maybe you can enlighten a few people here.
Example, just found out that Edinburgh was the subject of the very first bombing raid on Britian in WW2. October 16th, 1939. Amazing what you find out!
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Example, just found out that Edinburgh was the subject of the very first bombing raid on Britian in WW2. October 16th, 1939. Amazing what you find out!
The first Ju 88 downed by a Spitfire was shot down during that very raid off the coast of my home town by Flight Officer Pat Gifford of 603 Squadron. My little bit of local history haha.
Apologies for the off-topic.
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:salute
(http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/scotnews10/patrick-gifford.jpg)
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This place is where I learned to conduct myself in the real-world. I signed for this BBS handle when I was about 13.
I've made a lot of mistakes here. I learned a lot from them. I attribute my kindness and patience to my mother, while
the community here taught me to watch the backs of others while looking out for myself, taught me to say 'thank-you-sir',
and taught me a great deal more about not only what makes a good person, but what makes a crappy person as well.
A lot that I've learned on these boards and in-game I've brought to the real world. A lot of other stuff I had to suffer silently
with in history classes (Uhh, yeah, that's not a P-51.. That's not an ME-109... Can I teach instead?)
A handful of gentlemen here I have looked up to as role models without them really even knowing I was there, absorbing
almost every word that they typed. Windwing, Mace2004, and after flying with them for the first time over a year ago, Earl
and OddCAF. (RoseBlue in-game here)
I'd probably have been a nowhere punk wasting his life away if it weren't for this community. Arlo, although it's never too late
to become a better person, better sooner than later :)
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Can you imagine running the BOB without the Spit or Hurri I? Or how about 1942 scenarios in the Pacific without the A6M2?
Keep in mind that lack of usage in the Mains means these aircraft aren't important. Scenarios, FSO, and Snapshots are a HUGE part of the game, and these "hangar queens" are vital to many of these setups.
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At least four of the AC posted in the OP are among my favorites to fly at least once in a while (A6M2, Ju-87, P-38G, Spit I) and starting a month or so ahead of BoB and since I've been gravitating more and more to the Spit I as my primary MA ride. Why in the world would we ever even consider taking things away from the game?
If this was a real list of things to get rid of I'm sure more of my occasional favorites would be on it (Bf109E-4, D3A-1, F4F-4). I'm surprised the wish wasn't to get rid of WWI, EW and MW and all the aircraft and GV's that go with them and just have a LW Monster arena. It seems to be in-line with the OP's thought process.
I saw all the Earl's a great guy posts. Reading between the lines in his many posts on the BBs my take is that he's relatively new, relatively unskilled, doesn't fully understand the mechanics of the game, doesn't know the history of these games and doesn't know the community yet but is enjoying himself and is eager to help. Sorry to rain on the parade but taking things out of the game won't help anything and will simply lose more players.
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To give some more detail to what Saxman wrote, here are all scenarios since 2004, noting which less-popular planes that were used.
•Battle of Britain 2013 (Spit I, Hurri I, Bf 109E, Bf 110C, He 111, Ju 87, Ju 88)
• Mediterranean Maelstrom (Sea Hurri, F4F, Ju 87, Ju 88, C.202)
•Der Grosse Schlag II (Me 410)
•Winter Sky - Death Ground (all fairly popular)
•Enemy Coast Ahead (FW 190F-8, Ju 88)
•Road to Rangoon (A6M2, P-40, Hurri I, G4M, Bf 110C as substitute)
•Battle Over Germany (all fairly popular)
•Philippine Phandango (A6M5, B-25)
•The Final Battle (all fairly popular)
•Red Storm / Krupp Steel (B-25, P-39, Ju 88, FW 190F-8)
•Coral Sea 2009 (A6M2, D3A, B5N, F4F, SBD, TBM)
•Tunisia: Dawn of Battle (P-39, B-25, Ju 88)
•Battle of Britain 2008 (Spit I, Hurri I, Bf 109E, Bf 110C, Ju 88)
•Rangoon, '42 (2008) (A6M2, P-40, Hurri I, Bf 110C and Ju 88 as substitute)
•Der Grosse Schlag (all fairly popular)
•Operation Husky (P-40, F4F, Hurri I, Boston III, Ju 87, Ju 88, C.202)
•Battle of Britain 2006 (Spit I, Hurri I, Bf 109E, Bf 110C, Ju 88)
•Operation Downfall (all fairly popular)
•Stalin's Fourth (Boston III, Ju 87, Ju 88, FW 190F-8)
•Fire Over Malta (C.202, Ju 88)
•Coral Sea (A6M2, D3A, B5N, F4F, SBD, TBM)
•Rangoon, '42 (A6M2, P-40, Hurri I; SBD, Bf 110C and Ju 88 as substitute)
•Battle of Britain 2004 (Spit I, Hurri I, Bf 109E, Bf 110C, Ju 88)
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I don't really see the point in deleting something that previously had a lot of work put in to create them. Counter-productive really. Deleting one aircraft doesn't make another appear instantly, the same work and effort would still have to be put in to making the new one. All you'd be doing is removing a lot of variety which is something which would detract from the game.
Ie.. the P-47D-30 and BF109-G14
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I feel like flying a hangar queen tour. An entire tour flying nothing but P-39's, P-40's, Emils, and other 40+ eny planes. Those planes need loving too!
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A6M5 is quite popular.
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Nobody better lay a finger on my Stormyvik!!!
I LOVE THAT THING!
(http://www.exordio.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/il2_sturmovik.jpg)
It just screams "I don't need no stinkin' dihedral angle to be sexy!"
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Hands of my Hurricane MK Ia . I love flying that in the MA . Look up the stats for B3YK for the last few tours to see . only in the last week have I taken up flying the P51. (rather have a nice P-51 A Mustang I .
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Hands of my Hurricane MK Ia . I love flying that in the MA . Look up the stats for B3YK for the last few tours to see . only in the last week have I taken up flying the P51. (rather have a nice P-51 A Mustang I .
Not to mention Dolby would burst into tears if his beloved Emil vanished. :lol
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The C202 is one of the most fun aircraft to fly. :old:
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The C202 is one of the most fun aircraft to fly.
Best-flying plane in the game.
- oldman
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Purge the Brewster! :old: :furious