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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Voodoo38 on November 05, 2013, 01:58:11 PM
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After many years of playing this game and staying out of fighters because I never really got the hang of it I've finally found the YAK. It turns good, has good power with no WEP, climbs good and flys well IMO. For me it works great and suits me but may not be for everyone. Any thoughts or opinions on the YAK ?
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Small, hard to hit, very maneuverable, tough, big guns but few rounds. Best way to kill them from a P47 perspective is tag team or BnZ.
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Been working my way through learning the Yak 9T this tour. Liking it alot. Found that staying fast and getting close when firing helps alot. 37mm=BOOM.
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Over modeled! :furious :airplane: :bhead
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Yak-9U was my first AH love.
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I'll beat almost any stick flying a yak in my k4.
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Any thoughts or opinions on the YAK ?
Which one? We have...er....three....?
- oldman
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I'll beat almost any stick flying a yak in my k4.
So take that! :joystick:
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The Yak has always been my favorite little fighter. Small, nimble, and when it comes to learning to fight, the small number of rounds actually teaches you accuracy.
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I'll beat almost any stick flying a yak in my k4.
:aok
Still playing? Haven't seen you on much
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I cannot stop flying it, and when I am not flying it, I wish I were flying it. basically
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I love the Yak, since WBs days...it can do it all, seems like the secret is out :frown:
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Over modeled! :furious :airplane: :bhead
For a plywood plane. Over armored. B17's and jugs go down easier with 20 mil then Yaks do
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Which one? We have...er....three....?
- oldman
Im guessing the Yak3
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Yeah if the believed 'training wheels' come off then the :cry :furious :mad: :uhoh :( will begin! ;)
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For a plywood plane. Over armored. B17's and jugs go down easier with 20 mil then Yaks do
You have to realize the wood planes soaked up cannon fire better than metal planes... softer targets, the HE rounds sometimes didn't detonate when impacting the wooden aircraft, and when they did the wood absorbed the explosion better than the aluminum structure of other planes....
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I'll beat almost any stick flying a yak in my k4.
Couldn't have fought Shauny or Petro yet
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You have to realize the wood planes soaked up cannon fire better than metal planes... softer targets, the HE rounds sometimes didn't detonate when impacting the wooden aircraft, and when they did the wood absorbed the explosion better than the aluminum structure of other planes....
Somehow this does not apply to our Mossie VI.
Something in how the yak-3 handles at low speeds does not feel right to me. Most planes when flying slower than their best-climb speed (the back of the "power curve") start to feel heavy and sluggish. The yak-3 (and a couple of others as well to a lesser degree) feels like the induced drag does not increase much at high angles of attack, and the plane still rockets upwards at 100 mph indicated and lots of rudder applied. Truely, this plane has no power-on stall speed - the limit is 80-90 mph due to the torque that flips you over, but it would still do about 4000 fpm climb.
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Somehow this does not apply to our Mossie VI.
I was just going to say the same thing.
Also. Yak3 suffered from delamination problems when puling out of hard dives. Something it doesnt seem to suffer from here
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The delamination problem that Yaks suffered was caused by a batch of faulty resin glue IIRC and was fixed fairly quickly at the "request" of Comrade Stalin. DH Mosquitoes had similar build quality problems involving incorrect gluing from time to time.
Also the Yak wasn't an entirely wooden aircraft. The fuselage was a steel space frame covered in wood, fabric and aluminum, closer to the Hurricane than anything else. The wing was initially wood skinned with wooden spars, then metal spars on the 3 and 9s. The Mosquito was built more like an aluminum stressed-skin aircraft with more of the loads taken by the outer skin and less by the internal structure.
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Yak3 was a totally different bird in Warbirds compared with AH.
In Warbirds it was a very fast fighter, one of the fastest in the plane-set, but lacked the turn at high speed, and exceptional ability to zoom up like a homesick angel like it does in AH.
Turning hard in the yak3 at speed in Warbirds felt close to how a 190 turns, very high AOA resulted in snapstalling it, in here it really is a non-perked uber-bird together with the bruteforce La-7.
If people in the area worked together as wingmen in a yak3- la7 combo they should be very hard to beat, fortunately for me cooperation almost always come only with numbers.
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Yak3 was a totally different bird in Warbirds compared with AH.
In Warbirds it was a very fast fighter, one of the fastest in the plane-set, but lacked the turn at high speed, and exceptional ability to zoom up like a homesick angel like it does in AH.
Turning hard in the yak3 at speed in Warbirds felt close to how a 190 turns, very high AOA resulted in snapstalling it, in here it really is a non-perked uber-bird together with the bruteforce La-7.
If people in the area worked together as wingmen in a yak3- la7 combo they should be very hard to beat, fortunately for me cooperation almost always come only with numbers.
Whats the point in this? Im telling ya, man... 190s RULE! ;)
:cheers:
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After many years of playing this game and staying out of fighters because I never really got the hang of it I've finally found the YAK. It turns good, has good power with no WEP, climbs good and flys well IMO. For me it works great and suits me but may not be for everyone. Any thoughts or opinions on the YAK ?
Fannntasiitc another sure fire kill for my 109 heheh :t
in all honestly man, the yak is a decently good bird, but the ammo load out gets old real fast especially cause Russian guns are god awful, any 109 can out turn it all day long, gas is eh, and for me (personal opinion) not having bars infront on the windshield makes it hard to judge where to shoot. I don't fly it anymore for those reasons. but we all have our preferences. What ever makes the game fun for you!
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Fannntasiitc another sure fire kill for my 109 heheh :t
in all honestly man, the yak is a decently good bird, but the ammo load out gets old real fast especially cause Russian guns are god awful, any 109 can out turn it all day long, gas is eh, and for me (personal opinion) not having bars infront on the windshield makes it hard to judge where to shoot. I don't fly it anymore for those reasons. but we all have our preferences. What ever makes the game fun for you!
Russian guns, particularly the 12.7s, are quite good. Also I'd like to see the G-14 or K-4 in a turn fight with the Yak-3. I am skeptical that they'd win.
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Russian guns, particularly the 12.7s, are quite good. Also I'd like to see the G-14 or K-4 in a turn fight with the Yak-3. I am skeptical that they'd win.
Yeah dude the g14 and k4 got it all day long, one of things I remember is that the yak doesn't have a very good rudder slow stall. In a since when both planes get slow, the 109 will be able to out maneuver yak given its ability to hammer stall roll over and get slower than the yak for a better angle.
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Yeah dude the g14 and k4 got it all day long, one of things I remember is that the yak doesn't have a very good rudder slow stall. In a since when both planes get slow, the 109 will be able to out maneuver yak given its ability to hammer stall roll over and get slower than the yak for a better angle.
I think youre giving too much credit to the 109s great stall characteristics. IMO this only gets important when 2 experts are fighting each other - between 2 Awerage Joes, the pure performance is likely to decide.
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I'd like to see the G-14 or K-4 in a turn fight with the Yak-3. I am skeptical that they'd win.
It can be arranged. Yak-3 has plenty of weaknesses that you can exploit. :devil
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Yak is nothing special in the planeset imo, it is nice to see more people flying the yaks though even though they are irritating, it was a rare thing to see in the MA before the facelift/new models. Its a pity we didn't have more ruskie players jumping in these great new planes :(
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yak 3, owns Luft rides.
Thats why they were ordered to RTB everytime they saw them. In FA it was pretty much a stunt plane, the AH model is similar but needs someone with good hands to really throw it about when slow.