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Title: Recoverable or Bug?
Post by: LCADolby on November 09, 2013, 01:25:45 PM
After a brief fight I get a little bit of damage that isn't usually a problem to deal with.
Losing the left Hori-stab and left fuel and the right gear caused the most unbelievable free fall I have ever encountered..

Bug in the FM, or did I do something wrong? Mind you I was right rudder, nose down and right aileron 99% of the time trying to recover.
Title: Re: Recoverable or Bug?
Post by: icepac on November 10, 2013, 07:52:40 PM
From the direction of the smoke (which you can't see from inside) it looks like left rudder might helped.

It might have been recoverable eventually if someone hadn't picked off your right aerilon.

It certainly didn't pick up any speed.
Title: Re: Recoverable or Bug?
Post by: Chalenge on November 11, 2013, 12:16:18 AM
Ew, yeah it looks like you induced that crash. Not sure about the half-stab situation, but I think the only input you needed was down elevator. If it helps you feel better, this is the most common way to crash in the aviation world. Essentially, this is the state you were in:

http://apstraining.com/blog/2009/10/12/traffic-pattern-stalls/
Title: Re: Recoverable or Bug?
Post by: LCADolby on November 12, 2013, 06:11:39 AM
When I did try a little left rudder, it sped up the spin rather than help it. I dialled it out fast and went back to right attempting to slow and stop the spin. To no avail.
It's rather bizarre looking at it, and without the film viewer showing input it's very difficult to really put my finger on what went wrong.
Title: Re: Recoverable or Bug?
Post by: olds442 on November 25, 2013, 12:16:11 PM
I have that happen to me in the P51s a lot. Thats the main reason I don't fly them, they have this strange stall that is very hard to recover from. What I is I cut power to engine (to reduce spin) then push down and use rudder if the spin is still there. In your case you where screwed because you lost 1 elevator and hori stab so pushing down induced more spin.