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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: wpeters on November 11, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
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how would you define a vulch? wheels up? taxiing? dis-proportionate energy states?
Vulching is when you shoot a plane down within 120 sec. after spawn in. Anything after in my books is considered ack hugging.
Just a personal opinion on the matter. After 120 seconds you should be able to start defending yourself...
Any thoughts on the matter of what is considered a vulch.
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how would you define a vulch? wheels up? taxiing? dis-proportionate energy states?
Vulching is when you shoot a plane down within 120 sec. after spawn in. Anything after in my books is considered ack hugging.
Just a personal opinion on the matter. After 120 seconds you should be able to start defending yourself...
Any thoughts on the matter of what is considered a vulch.
if you are in range of the ack, you are vulching.
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So killing a ack huger is vulching?
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it's whatever the vulchee whines loud enough about...
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My .02 cents ~
An aircraft taking off or landing, with limited E and control surfaces, which is attacked, has been vulched.
Swooping down on an enemy aircraft that has enough E to manuever, ack or no ack, is fair game. May not be a smart move but it's a fair shot.
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..a cheap shot..
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My definition of vulch is....The shooting of or at any plane that is on the runway/rearm pad or doesn't have enough E to get out of the way after takeoff and especially if they are trying to land.
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Vulching is awesome :banana:
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Vulching is the sport of Kings! :aok
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I see complaints about vulching but I have an arguement for that.
If planes are in your ack at your airfield then you should lift from another field if you're worried about being killed.
If you are spawned in and on the airfield you are a threat and I will shoot your plane :devil
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If they're wheels up, then they can maneuver and is no longer considered a vulch in my book.
Some think that a it's still a vulch until they have reached 2K and 350mph.
Some even think it's still a vulch after they've been airborne for 20 minutes.
Don't get caught up in all this technical stuff. If it's red then it's dead! :aok
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rock n roll aint noise pollution, a vulch is just - a vulch.
Did it - not proud of my deeds at any degree, got it - hated it from my hearth. Dirty deeds done with sheep.
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how would you define a vulch? wheels up? taxiing? dis-proportionate energy states?
Vulching is when you shoot a plane down within 120 sec. after spawn in. Anything after in my books is considered ack hugging.
Just a personal opinion on the matter. After 120 seconds you should be able to start defending yourself...
Any thoughts on the matter of what is considered a vulch.
The definition of a 'vulch' is rather simple. It's just shooting down a plane that is in the process of either taking off or landing.
if you are in range of the ack, you are vulching.
Wrong.
ack-ack
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Wrong.
it's my opinion.
if you're out of the range of ack, it's impossible to vulch.
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rock n roll aint noise pollution, a vulch is just - a vulch.
Did it - not proud of my deeds at any degree, got it - hated it from my hearth. Dirty deeds done with sheep.
Um, thanks for sharing there, DeB.
:bolt:
:rofl
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Um, thanks for sharing there, DeB.
:bolt:
:rofl
Hehe, what a drunkarse could write :rofl
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it's my opinion.
What I wrote has been the definition of a 'vulch' since the early days of online flight sims, your opinion isn't going to change that.
if you're out of the range of ack, it's impossible to vulch.
If you don't take off or land at a base under active attack by fighters, it's impossible to vulch. I vulched a formation of bombers awhile back in a B-25H when I lobbed a 75mm round from 3k when I saw some dots appear on the runway spawn. I was out of ack range and I still vulched.
ack-ack
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A vulch.... is the fun stuff you get to do when yourside is doing all the right things and winning. :airplane:
Cavalry
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VULCH -- (Verb) An action to disable, injure, or kill an enemy aircraft while it is at it's most vulnerable state of taking off or landing. Other situations where the enemy is at a complete disadvantage and cannot maneuver or take any actions to defend itself also lend itself to the term.
Or...as rooks call it-- THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET A KILL.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Other situations where the enemy is at a complete disadvantage and cannot maneuver or take any actions to defend itself also lend itself to the term.
No it doesn't. It's a very specific term for a specific situation. You can't vulch a plane that is flying around at 5,000ft or one flying around the deck at 50ft. You can only vulch a plane that is either landing or taking off (or ditching).
It's like the term 'cherry pick' (or 'pick') which has always meant shooting down a plane that is otherwise already engaged with another plane. A lot incorrectly use this term to describe flying around while not in aerial combat and being ambushed by another single plane, when the correct term for this situation is "bounced". For example, I ran into a P-51D the other night, flying along and totally oblivious I was there and I bounced him from out of the Sun. The player immediately called me a "cherry picker", when the correct term should have been "bounced".
ack-ack
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Lol, love how uptight AKAK is getting about this :lol.
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Lol, love how uptight AKAK is getting about this
He's only trying to preserve the heritage.
- oldman
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Lol, love how uptight AKAK is getting about this :lol.
He's not uptight. He's correct and you're confused.
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If you don't take off or land at a base under active attack by fighters, it's impossible to vulch. I vulched a formation of bombers awhile back in a B-25H when I lobbed a 75mm round from 3k when I saw some dots appear on the runway spawn. I was out of ack range and I still vulched.
ack-ack
3k is not outside of ack range. (manned ack range)
vulching is vulching.. like spawn camping.. its perfectly legit, and perfectly legit to make fun of...
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AKAK is 100% right
I use the term cherry picking for people that hang just off runways and dive on the uppers gaining alt. I would use bounced, but cherrying is much more fun to say.
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AKAK is 100% right
I use the term cherry picking for people that hang just off runways and dive on the uppers gaining alt. I would use bounced, but cherrying is much more fun to say.
was sitting above a little herd of 4 or 5 low ones the other night at about 5k above trying to kill them one at a time and keep my E , and one of them was screaming on 200 at me to "come down a you coward and stop cherrypicking" . Now if he was just taunting me to get me to do something stupid I can fully understand that , but he was actually serious.
and AKAK is right , vulching is on the runway , it pretty goes back to the days when there was either no ack (or no meaningful ack) and vulching was pretty much standard fare
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What is a Vulch
Killing a pilot in a manner that they disapprove of and tending to be in the context of diving from a higher altitude to obtain the kill.
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if you are in range of the ack, you are vulching.
:rofl
No. It's a catchy phrase, but completely false.
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..a cheap shot..
if you ruled out every "cheap" shot in the game, it would no longer exist. :neener:
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If you shoot me down it is a vulch. Not only that, it also makes you a HO dweeb as well.
Since I cannot shoot myself, I never vulch or HO.
If people are not happy with my definition, they can call it "strafing a 3 wheels GV", and stafing GVs is OK.
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If people are not happy with my definition, they can call it "strafing a 3 wheels GV", and stafing GVs is OK.
Great Defination
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Shooting at a lifting or landing plane is a vulch...
Now, if you lift from a capped base, you shouldn't complain about being vulched, if you do :neener:
Landing, well, that's a different story. I had a fight once where I chased a running 190 who would turn around when I turned around. We did this for 30+ minutes. Finally I ran low on fuel and he vulched me on landing. I call that a tard move, I will let you be TheJudge.
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trying to differentiate between vulching, cherry picking and bouncing is like saying there's a difference between a ho and a front 1/4 shot.
semp
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trying to differentiate between vulching, cherry picking and bouncing is like saying there's a difference between a ho and a front 1/4 shot.
semp
there is a BIGARSE difference between a head on and a deflection shot. Sad if you dont know what is it all about.
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there is a BIGARSE difference between a head on and a deflection shot. Sad if you dont know what is it all about.
yes you are correct, however level front 1/4 shots and ho's are not really different.
semp
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yup, i usually consider the level 1/4 quarter shots as a head on, as (usually) both of them had the opportunity to shoot each other in the same time, but one tryed to evade the unnecessery move, while the other is still trying to shoot his face. It isnt nice and the "more agressive one" is usually either dieing in 2 turns after the merge or running away.
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Pfffft, it's called rocket target practice. Nothing like hittting a slightly moving object to brighten anyone's day :x
ESPECIALLY if you happen to find sooner spamming bombers on the runway :rofl
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No it doesn't. It's a very specific term for a specific situation. You can't vulch a plane that is flying around at 5,000ft or one flying around the deck at 50ft. You can only vulch a plane that is either landing or taking off (or ditching).
It's like the term 'cherry pick' (or 'pick') which has always meant shooting down a plane that is otherwise already engaged with another plane. A lot incorrectly use this term to describe flying around while not in aerial combat and being ambushed by another single plane, when the correct term for this situation is "bounced". For example, I ran into a P-51D the other night, flying along and totally oblivious I was there and I bounced him from out of the Sun. The player immediately called me a "cherry picker", when the correct term should have been "bounced".
ack-ack
Sorry, I'm sticking with mine. Lighten up Francis.
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Sorry, I'm sticking with mine. Lighten up Francis.
...you just made the list, buddy! :aok
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I can't believe how many here don't seem to know the definitions of game terminology. Ack-Ack is 100% correct and it is what it is.
What I'd liken a lot of these responses to is going to the bathroom then blowing your nose instead of wiping your a**. They both use tissue to remove something you don't want there right? Must be the same thing. :rolleyes:
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somebody once said that vulches are like little presents that fall from the sky.
semp
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somebody once said that vulches are like little presents that fall from the sky.
I resemble that remark...
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I got vulched 5 times on the runway yesterday by htshot. I dis-respected him by trying to get off the runway another 4 times after the first vulch.
He was in a 190D and he spared the lives of all of his countrymen, If I had got off that runway I would have slain the rest of them like chickens in a hen house. He knew that and did what he had to do for his team to capture that field otherwise it wasn't going to happen as the previous 90 minutes of combat showed.
It is how you deal with it and don't take things personally that make up a person of good character.
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Ahh so vulching builds a good character. Interesting.
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Ahh so vulching builds a good character. Interesting.
He's not saying that.
ack-ack
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Vulching is a object lesson meted out to someone trying to take-off, land or rearm at a hot field. :devil
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He's not saying that.
ack-ack
And im being a dyck with him, as always.
Debrody
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Look at it this way.
At least vulching is vastly more historically accurate then say...Dive bombing B-17's
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I consider it a vulch if your wheels are on concrete. While I think it's pointless and stupid, some people enjoy it. If I had it my way, players wouldn't get credit for killing a plane with its wheels on concrete. No perks, no name in lights.
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If they're wheels up, then they can maneuver and is no longer considered a vulch in my book.
Some think that a it's still a vulch until they have reached 2K and 350mph.
Some even think it's still a vulch after they've been airborne for 20 minutes.
Don't get caught up in all this technical stuff. If it's red then it's dead! :aok
Some think its a vulch every time they are shot down
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Taking off and landing is a vulch, and if you're go to do both while your field is capped or someone with a k/d of .01 flying in your ack then thats your own fault. Everything else is being shot down, your poor SA and planning is not my problem if i catch you 2k from the field on climb out.
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a vulch is a sacred thing
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The definition of a 'vulch' is rather simple. It's just shooting down a plane that is in the process of either taking off or landing.
ack-ack
+1
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Wheels down, Vulch. Wheels up, no vulch.
:bhead
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Vulching is a object lesson meted out to someone trying to take-off, land or rearm at a hot field. :devil
Yup. And it's a lot of fun. Especially when I send flaming back to Earth the frustrated guy thinking I don't see him "sneaking" out of the hangar. Good times indeed.
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Wheels down, Vulch. Wheels up, no vulch.
:bhead
wheels up is only 5 seconds away from wheels down.
semp
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And in response to the OP. 120 seconds? Are you kidding me? You'll get exactly 1 second before I enjoy hammering you back into the ground. Provide some examples of WWII engagements where the pilots of any Air Force allowed their enemy to get off the ground, climb, and accelerate so that the base capture would be more fair. I think your expectation might be a bit unreasonable.