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Title: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: Vraciu on November 19, 2013, 10:05:15 AM

Situation....

In a fight with a bandit.  I am in a nose down spiral to the right with him but can't pull lead.  As we descend and it is apparent a lead pursuit isn't possible, I nose down and roll right (usually 90 degrees) so he is off to left side then I pull my nose up so it is in front of his projected flight path.

I sometimes do this on a merge.   Rather than turning in the horizontal I split S and pull up to where I think he will cross. 

It works beautifully if I have alt.  I usually miss as he flies right through my gunsight.   What kind of maneuver is this, other than frustrating?  Lol

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: FLS on November 19, 2013, 10:22:26 AM

You're describing a low yoyo.

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: Vraciu on November 19, 2013, 10:24:58 AM

Thank you!

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: Sunka on November 19, 2013, 10:29:06 AM

I find yo yo's both high and low are the most widely used and effective ways to energy fight. Getting with a trainer and learning this basic acm can be very helpful.

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: Vraciu on November 19, 2013, 10:34:16 AM

For sure.

Just needed to make sure I have the name right so I can study it some more.

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: deadstikmac on November 19, 2013, 01:14:21 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-Combat-Maneuvering-Robert-Shaw/dp/0870210599


Buy that book sir... Worth it's weight in gold!

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: FLS on November 19, 2013, 09:08:19 PM

Shaw's book is available as a free download but I don't have a link handy. You can also find USN and USAF ACM  manuals free online and  I think they are easier to get the basics from. Some people have trouble with diagrams and do better with a trainer demonstrating and explaining concepts and maneuvers.

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: Vraciu on November 19, 2013, 09:33:50 PM

Thanks all.  Will get after it.

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: deadstikmac on November 20, 2013, 08:03:13 AM

Another hidden gem in PDF

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf


FLS is spot on, find the PDF on Shaws Book.  :salute

Title: Re: Is this a vertical scissor?
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 28, 2013, 08:33:37 AM

Quote from: deadstikmac on November 20, 2013, 08:03:13 AM

Another hidden gem in PDF

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/lento_ohjeet/inpursuit/inpursuit.pdf


FLS is spot on, find the PDF on Shaws Book.  :salute

regarding any free pdf files of Mouse's ( Robert Shaw's ) book, I had talked withhim awhile back and helped him with several places that was hosting his book in pdf form on some websites, etc.. illegally ....    btw  Mouse  is/was  Shaw's  gameid  and callsign as well iirc.......

so good luck on finding a copy.....

I recommend buying the book, seriously


as for inpursuit, I never really cared much for it......

TC