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Title: Building a new pc question
Post by: USCH on November 24, 2013, 01:40:57 PM
Soon I'll be having a friend build a new pc, it will just be for AH. what are the suggestions for what is a "must". I personally don't know crap about pc's and I want it to last. With the new updates coming, it is so " over my head".

Also my monitor is dated, will that be an issue with running everything?

My goal is to build it in expensively. But to also be able to run AH at full tilt with no issues.

You help is greatly welcomed guys and thanks. Hope to see you soon in the sky.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: WWhiskey on November 24, 2013, 01:43:24 PM
Solid state hard drive! For starters!
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: gyrene81 on November 24, 2013, 01:56:34 PM
how long do you want it to last? ah at full tilt for more than 2 years is possible if you put the first $800 into the right components...cpu, mobo, ram, psu, graphics card.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: WWhiskey on November 24, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
CPU -----Intel 4770k. I-7. Should last lots of years as far as performance, top of the heap right now!
Mobo-----pic a good one,,, i like ASUS myself. Saber tooth
PSU-------  just get an 850 and forget snout it!!!
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: Kenne on November 24, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
CPU -----Intel 4770k. I-7. Should last lots of years as far as performance, top of the heap right now!
Mobo-----pic a good one,,, i like ASUS myself. Saber tooth
PSU-------  just get an 850 and forget snout it!!!


arnt the saber tooth MBs close to 300$?
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: guncrasher on November 24, 2013, 03:53:10 PM
first start by setting up a budget.  it doesnt matter what should be included if you dont have the money to buy it.


semp
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: USCH on November 24, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
Thanks guys, I'd say all told I want to stay under or around  a grand. A little over is fine but not much more. It clearly would depend on if the extra money is worth the cost. If you know what I'm saying.. I'd like to not spend an extra $$$ for a component that's just slightly better than another. Keep the thoughts rolling.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: WWhiskey on November 24, 2013, 04:29:26 PM
I spent about $1100, I could have done it cheaper but I wanted ASUS,,, ALSO,, I had a good case and all my hard drives,,, you can get a processor, mobo, memory, package deal for reasonable prices,, add a good power supply and a video card then your set!
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: outbreak on November 24, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
If the rig is only for AH prices shouldnt be to bad, Intel parts are a bit more costly AMD are budget friendly and still pretty good. It all comes down to what do you really want?

I personally am an AMD fan so here is my opinion for a good AH machine.

Keep in mind this is without a Case, DVD drive. This is only the Primary items, DVD drive can run another $20, Case depends on what you like. The video card you could probably get the 270x and still be more then fine running AH on max settings. The 280x would last into future updates.


CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($147.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $716.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-24 19:53 EST-0500)
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: Spikes on November 26, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
Solid state hard drive! For starters!
A hybrid drive?
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: WWhiskey on November 26, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
A hybrid drive?
http://www.crucial.com/store/ssd.aspx?cpe=pd_msn_us&ef_id=USbxUAAABTWDOmo2:20131126180938:s

I used a 120 ssd Plus another 1t disc hard drive to back It up

Wiki link as well.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: wpeters on November 26, 2013, 12:24:54 PM
Try this.   Will last you for 5 years.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/291gw :salute
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: Kenne on November 26, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
Try this.   Will last you for 5 years.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/291gw :salute


nice

gttn me the 3570 me self.

dunna kno about gigabyte...nvr had them.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: gyrene81 on November 26, 2013, 01:24:03 PM
Try this.   Will last you for 5 years.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/291gw :salute
no it won't. ram is slow compared to the ripjaw and sniper series with the same timings. the ssd is too small. the video card is weak.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: Bizman on November 26, 2013, 01:31:06 PM
A hybrid drive?
Don't fall for them. They recently tested some of them in our pc-magazines, the result being not so flattering. The ssd part of hybrids is very small, it only helps for quick revisits of items that you've recently used and that are tiny enough to fit into it. Big files will remain completely on the regular hard drive section.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: wpeters on November 26, 2013, 02:29:43 PM
no it won't. ram is slow compared to the ripjaw and sniper series with the same timings. the ssd is too small. the video card is weak.

8 gigs of ram is enough running at 1600. SSD is enough to download your operating system on and also your game. You can always upgrade the SSD. But for now that is enough. You don't need 1Tb worth of SSD.   It would work really well. Yes I know the Video Card is not the best but enought to run the game at high settings.  I dont think he can build much better for a thousand dollars. 
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: gyrene81 on November 26, 2013, 02:50:06 PM
8 gigs of ram is enough running at 1600. SSD is enough to download your operating system on and also your game. You can always upgrade the SSD. But for now that is enough. You don't need 1Tb worth of SSD.   It would work really well. Yes I know the Video Card is not the best but enought to run the game at high settings.  I dont think he can build much better for a thousand dollars. 
i'm not talking about the amount of ram, i'm talking about the actual real world performance. 128gb ssd formats to 118gb in win7. installing programs to a secondary disk defeats the purpose of using an ssd and in some cases makes things slower.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: wpeters on November 26, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
i'm not talking about the amount of ram, i'm talking about the actual real world performance. 128gb ssd formats to 118gb in win7. installing programs to a secondary disk defeats the purpose of using an ssd and in some cases makes things slower.

What would be better then?
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 26, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
What would be better then?

Just get a larger SSD. Samsung EVO series is fast and relatively cheap.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: cattb on November 26, 2013, 05:22:35 PM
240 GB would be the way I would go and is also my suggestion if your pocketbook can afford. Prolly get one for around 150 during xmass sales.  Get a 1 TB hard drive also, or at least I would for the reason, photos, videos, music, etc. That is if your into that stuff or you could go smaller HD.

Myself, I put the most used (important) programs and OS on my SSD . Otherwise I put my other programs on the Hardrive. I also put my documents, photos, videos, etc on the hardrive and not on the SSD. I use a 120 GB SSD.
Guncrasher is right, set your budget, then read and explore ideas of your components with in mind your use of  computer.

my half cent
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: Spikes on November 27, 2013, 10:45:11 PM
http://www.crucial.com/store/ssd.aspx?cpe=pd_msn_us&ef_id=USbxUAAABTWDOmo2:20131126180938:s

I used a 120 ssd Plus another 1t disc hard drive to back It up

Wiki link as well.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive
Oh...Solid State Drive and Solid State Hard Drive are two different things.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 27, 2013, 10:55:51 PM
Oh...Solid State Drive and Solid State Hard Drive are two different things.

I guess you mean hybrid drives? Nowadays there are 3 different variations: Plain hdd, hybrid hdd with ssd cache built in and hybrid hdd with a built in 120gb ssd. The latter shows up as two separate drives in the system and is meant for applications where only 1 physical drive is possible (laptops).
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: caldera on November 28, 2013, 07:51:03 AM
Soon I'll be having a friend build a new pc, it will just be for AH. what are the suggestions for what is a "must". I personally don't know crap about pc's and I want it to last. With the new updates coming, it is so " over my head".

Also my monitor is dated, will that be an issue with running everything?

My goal is to build it in expensively. But to also be able to run AH at full tilt with no issues.

You help is greatly welcomed guys and thanks. Hope to see you soon in the sky.


Just got the parts for a new computer that rang up $962 at Amazon.  They charge tax now, which sucks.



Antec 900 case    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I5JHB0/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

MSI z77A-g43 motherboard    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QWI9K8/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

I-5 3570k processor    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SZ0E1K/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

Corsair 650watt power supply    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004LB5AZY/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

Corsair 8gb memory    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

EVGA superclocked GTX 760 video card    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DHW4HXY/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

WD 1tb hard drive    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088PUEPK/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

Asus dvd drive    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item



The cpu runs at 3.4mhz can overclock to something like 4.5mhz, so this sucker should rock AH for some time.
Title: Re: Building a new pc question
Post by: USCH on November 28, 2013, 08:41:45 AM
Thanks for the help guys. It should be enough info for a good start.