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Title: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 04, 2013, 12:33:42 PM
Just curious; I'm back after a long time away. Was just wondering who is left here that was in the AH Beta or first couple of Tours?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on December 04, 2013, 12:44:53 PM
<raises hand> :salute

Good to hear from you.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Easyscor on December 04, 2013, 12:47:04 PM
I watched my son play the beta before moving to Intel. Does that count?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Karnak on December 04, 2013, 01:29:03 PM
Kinda here.  Account is active, but I rarely find the time to log in.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Mister Fork on December 04, 2013, 01:38:54 PM
Here!  Toad, it's been a while. (Vruth)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: aztec on December 04, 2013, 02:44:41 PM
Since tour 13, How are ya Toad? :salute :cheers:

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -pjk-- on December 04, 2013, 02:56:36 PM
Loong time ago...

 :D
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Gard06 on December 04, 2013, 03:22:05 PM
Here, since Beta tour 1
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Beefcake on December 04, 2013, 04:06:47 PM
Ah Toad, good to see you haven't been squished on the road. :)

Been here since Beta 2, however, the old B17 is pretty much retired now.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: pipz on December 04, 2013, 04:45:32 PM
If recall correctly I messed with beta then played Warbirds for a short time them came back when the game was up and running.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Rino on December 04, 2013, 05:12:21 PM
     Hiya John, really long time!  How's the health thing going?

     Was just thinking about you last week.  Earl1937 was talking about his wife's passing and flying
a PT-19.  I was going to bring up your family, but decided to let it be.  He never got to fly the PT-26
but would have liked to.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356359.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356359.0.html)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Nath[BDP] on December 04, 2013, 05:32:55 PM
I was in late beta.

just looked at Tour 12 roster.

Cant believe its been 14 years.

winqck    1    9    1    1    1
Citabria    2    7    2    0    40
Snefens    3    16    34    0    5
sigemo    4    55    4    0    28
Hanibl    5    1    68    0    2
comic    6    61    23    0    9
AKNimitz    7    20    39    0    45
Mitsu    8    11    54    0    13
arradin    9    32    101    0    42
eskimo    10    43    100    0    17
GTR    11    21    114    0    43
Ypsilon    12    12    13    0    197
MANDOBLE    13    26    33    0    192
Asmodan    14    47    67    0    143
Hanzo    15    22    26    0    149
Storm    16    109    19    0    4
hblair    17    93    161    0    35
wilbus    18    40    111    0    183
TRiMmer    19    142    104    0    52
airreapr    20    268    7    0    81
FunkedUp    21    126    70    0    150
NathBDP    22    51    265    0    61
Booky    23    114    120    0    108
Zona    24    100    267    0    14
AKcurly    25    3    152    0    216
CavemanJ    26    185    208    0    21
Spatula    26    88    11    0    223
nojima    28    24    88    0    277
Regurge    29    17    390    0    16
dzd    30    159    223    0    11
BigBen    31    308    57    0    84
airguard    31    165    66    0    142
cars    33    64    130    0    130
airecoil    34    4    96    0    279
LAMPO    35    382    22    0    8
Whels1    36    182    177    0    10
HanaG    36    195    112    0    226
Koba    38    241    30    0    191
jarbo    39    352    10    0    122
Naso    40    5    47    0    305
Ryu    41    103    264    0    174
stin    42    44    50    0    298
sekiji    43    82    76    0    171
kenzo    44    397    3    0    85
rraf    45    37    127    0    241
VikS13    46    36    237    0    246
BlauK    47    172    217    0    203
durruti    48    224    159    0    125
ELV    49    179    148    0    238
Moto
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Citabria on December 04, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
I was there. whats up toad? :)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Zacherof on December 04, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
If recall correctly I messed with beta then played Warbirds for a short time them came back when the game was up and running.
that doesn't count! :old:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Citabria on December 04, 2013, 05:49:39 PM
I really think that Aces High has endured since 1999 says a lot about how correct HTC's business model is to survive in this niche industry of WW2 simming.

even the Russians with their big industry backers look at HTC with jealousy and say even publicly... "they have been succeeding for over a decade while our products for this WW2 simulation has success measured in months or a year and if the company that owns us is not satisfied with the profit they pull the plug and the project dies."

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: blutic on December 04, 2013, 06:03:50 PM
I was here
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: The Fugitive on December 04, 2013, 06:23:37 PM
I've been here since tour 11 as MDJOE

Welcome back Toad!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: 800nate800 on December 04, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
I would say yes butttt you woundnt recognize me, you squelched me more then likely
 :noid
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 04, 2013, 07:00:19 PM
I would say yes butttt you woundnt recognize me, you squelched me more then likely
 :noid

You probably were still in diapers when beta was around.

ack-ack
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Shane on December 04, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
I started my AH career in tour 14... not quite beta...  :cool:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: GhostCDB on December 04, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
I watched my father play, and began when I was 8 on his account. . .10 years ago if that counts.


 :airplane:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Nath[BDP] on December 04, 2013, 09:16:28 PM
I watched my father play, and began when I was 8 on his account. . .10 years ago if that counts.


 :airplane:

I pwned your father.

God I feel old.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: katanaso on December 04, 2013, 09:49:44 PM
I played around in Beta, also played around in WB, but lost my way into EQ, and returned to AH after 10 years away.  Unfortunately, I've forgotten more folks than I remember, but that's the same outside of the game too.  I can't remember people from high school or college.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Soulyss on December 05, 2013, 12:30:30 AM
Been at it since 1999.   :)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: WWhiskey on December 05, 2013, 12:58:02 AM
I really think that Aces High has endured since 1999 says a lot about how correct HTC's business model is to survive in this niche industry of WW2 simming.

even the Russians with their big industry backers look at HTC with jealousy and say even publicly... "they have been succeeding for over a decade while our products for this WW2 simulation has success measured in months or a year and if the company that owns us is not satisfied with the profit they pull the plug and the project dies."


good point!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Gard06 on December 05, 2013, 02:19:28 AM
Seriously, who cares?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: rob53 on December 05, 2013, 05:47:22 AM
Still here and semi active  :old:
 Getting a kick looking at these old names and brings back alot of good memories.  :cheers:


Rob
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: mechanic on December 05, 2013, 06:54:54 AM
I remember a good few of those on Nath's list but I didn't start playing till 2003, which makes me a perpetual noob   :rock

speaking of old timers, who remembers Taki?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: MickDono on December 05, 2013, 07:08:35 AM
2009 here :banana:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: SmokinLoon on December 05, 2013, 07:13:01 AM
I started in Jan of '08.  Soon after the T34/85 and SdKfz 251 were added. 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 05, 2013, 08:43:49 AM
 
     Was just thinking about you last week.  Earl1937 was talking about his wife's passing and flying
a PT-19.  I was going to bring up your family, but decided to let it be.  He never got to fly the PT-26
but would have liked to.


Hey Glenn! I'm still kicking' and glad to see you are too! My health is stable and that's about all I ask for. How you doing?

The -26 went back to Canada. Dad is 93 and just got too old to fly it anymore. The other two are in KC but sold out of the family. The guy I sold to still lets me in the front seat whenever I ask. If Earl ever went to KC, I'm sure I could hook him up there.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 05, 2013, 08:47:41 AM
Good to see so many old timers still here. Thanks for the welcome back and I hope to see ya up!

The game still has that draw, doesn't it? It is THE affordable Walter Mitty experience for many of us that grew up building all those Monogram and Revell WW2 airplane kits. I realized a while ago I'd never get to own these aircraft; this is as close as I'm going to get.

So, since Cit pointed it out, <S> to Dale/Doug/Skuzzy/all the HTC folks for keeping this thing alive.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: killnu on December 05, 2013, 08:52:05 AM
I remember a good few of those on Nath's list but I didn't start playing till 2003, which makes me a perpetual noob   :rock

speaking of old timers, who remembers Taki?

I do.  Actually asked about him other day in MA.

Im a noob too...Tour 25. 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on December 05, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
I do.  Actually asked about him other day in MA.

Im a noob too...Tour 25. 

36 was my foist. Oy.  :salute
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: ink on December 05, 2013, 10:49:35 AM
buncha old bastages.. :D...I didn't even get a PC till I was 34....got it just for AH...... been tearing it up since tour 52  :joystick:

welcome back to the game Toad....hopefully the running and unwillingness to fight unless they have ALL the advantages dont turn you away....we need all the fighters we can get :salute
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: SkyRock on December 05, 2013, 10:52:52 AM
tour 43 here.....
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Frodo on December 05, 2013, 11:19:01 AM
 :aok  Beta     :old:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: blutic on December 05, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
What happened to RAM... anyone remember him?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Karnak on December 05, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
What happened to RAM... anyone remember him?
I remember him.  He left for other things.  Came back briefly and then disappeared again.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: steely07 on December 05, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
Tour 15 for me, but a lot of H2H before that (I was broke for quite a while back then)

Good to see you Toad, <S>
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Shamus on December 05, 2013, 06:13:23 PM
What happened to RAM... anyone remember him?

Now there is a guy who really knew how to light up a text channel , I cleared his 12 once and the way he carried on, you would think I banged his girlfriend or something :t

shamus   
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Nath[BDP] on December 05, 2013, 06:15:22 PM
RAM was a hoot...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,2436.0.html
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Beefcake on December 05, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
RAM was a hoot...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,2436.0.html

Holy moly the names in that thread bring back memories. Had to believe it's been almost 14 years.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: surfinn on December 05, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
Flew the game that predated the beta version of AH.      Fighter OPPS on AOL, Air Warrior, and Warbirds.   
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Redd on December 05, 2013, 10:49:14 PM
anyone here from CK beta ?  what year was that 95 ?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Masherbrum on December 05, 2013, 11:05:38 PM
Tour 27 here.   So many gone who don't play anymore and are missed in game by myself.     Duedel, Overlag, MANDOBLE, AX, Goth, PaleRdr, PK1, 0lDemon, 4XTCH, MajIssue, Anton, Souless, Animal (from 13th TAS), MrWulf, Swoop, Rebel (TwoStep) and much more.

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Karnak on December 06, 2013, 10:32:31 AM
I recall many of those names, Masherbrum.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on December 06, 2013, 10:56:27 AM
Tour 27 here.   So many gone who don't play anymore and are missed in game by myself.     Duedel, Overlag, MANDOBLE, AX, Goth, PaleRdr, PK1, 0lDemon, 4XTCH, MajIssue, Anton, Souless, Animal (from 13th TAS), MrWulf, Swoop, Rebel (TwoStep) and much more.



Souless isn't Soulyss?  Haha I thought they were the same.

Who was the Spanish guy that was a huge 190-A5 pilot?  He was always calling folks "stupido" on the common channel. Pretty good stick too.  I miss that guy.

Lest we forget Drex, Lazs, AKCurly, AKMoe, Daddog, funkedup; I can't list them all.  I miss those guys.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Dragon on December 06, 2013, 12:23:50 PM
Tour 27 here.   So many gone who don't play anymore and are missed in game by myself.     Duedel, Overlag, MANDOBLE, AX, Goth, PaleRdr, PK1, 0lDemon, 4XTCH, MajIssue, Anton, Souless, Animal (from 13th TAS), MrWulf, Swoop, Rebel (TwoStep) and much more.



I miss Swoop's weekly contributions to the forum.  Merlin01 (Beta user) who got me started on this game in tour 49, JeepnAZ, BLAMMO, Dragoon,...
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: killnu on December 06, 2013, 09:44:59 PM
Souless flew as Tequilla previously...and is not the same as Soulyss.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Mister Fork on December 06, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
I remember others like Brady, Soviet, Fariz's infamous mishuns, Pugg (who we all thought was dead but was not),  saxman, tank and other warbird pilots who came over when Dale and Doug left and started Aces High.  Those were the days... :)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: mechanic on December 06, 2013, 10:20:16 PM
A bit later on from that time, Balsy, Mathman, Grits, Jamx, just a few more names from the 2003 era that I miss
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: kilo2 on December 06, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
2009 here :banana:

 :banana:

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Flossy on December 07, 2013, 04:50:18 AM
Can't remember exactly when I started here, or whether it was Beta, but I remember that for a while I was alternating between Aces High and Air Warrior, so it was obviously before the plug was pulled on AW..... 12 years ago today....  :cry
Earliest tour I can see myself listed is Tour 14, March 2001, but I am sure I played occasionally before then.

LOL played AH much longer than I ever played AW, but I still miss it.   :old:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Molsman on December 07, 2013, 05:32:44 AM
Been around on and off since pre ah and beta was Mols back then I think all's I remember I flew them B38s with Alan Murdr Tkor and  few others from the Good Ol 479th.

Welcome back Toad

 :salute
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on December 07, 2013, 10:47:59 AM
... before the plug was pulled on AW..... 12 years ago today....  :cry

LOL played AH much longer than I ever played AW, but I still miss it.   :old:

(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4524719203091826&pid=15.1)

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: BaldEagl on December 07, 2013, 11:59:42 AM
Tour 22 for me just as AW pulled the plug; 32 minutes, 4 sorties, 1 landed, 3 deaths, 0 kills.

Welcome back Toad.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Tumor on December 07, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
Been on a break for awhile... still check in here now and then though.  Been thinking about firing back up again.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on December 07, 2013, 04:56:42 PM
Been on a break for awhile... still check in here now and then though.  Been thinking about firing back up again.

C'mon, Tumor. We have your Hog fueled, armed and on the ready line for you.  :D
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Hajo on December 07, 2013, 06:00:35 PM
Toad wassup???!!!  Remember the every other Weds, nite furball club we tried to establish?

Good ta cya back.  I don't show up in the MA very often.  Usually FSO or Scenarios now.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -aper- on December 08, 2013, 05:08:26 PM
AH Beta was fine. Flight model was way different and much more challenging compared to FM in AH now.

There were already players dedicated to particular planes like Fishu (FW190A8), Hristo (BF109G10), Torque (F4U1C), Visconti (C205), Fariz (SpitIX), Leonid (LA5FN) to name the few.

At first it was two-country war between Rooks and Bishops. The Knight land was deserted at the beginning.  Despite the game was free to play there were less gaming the game and more good fights then nowdays. Developers played in main arena quite often (HiTech, Natedog, Superfly) and despite it they were bringing new planes into the game much quicker at that time.

Everybody (the developers and the players) were very enthusiastic about the development of AH and it's future.
Now it looks like both parties are tired from what they are doing....
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: blutic on December 08, 2013, 05:10:04 PM
I wish we could get Daddog back here. Maybe a P-38 mission. Or the 332nd missing him would do it! <S> Sir!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Karnak on December 08, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
AH Beta was fine. Flight model was way different and much more challenging compared to FM in AH now.
That was due to inaccuracies, not because the FM was made easier as a game concession.  I recall in was Lazs who kept pushing on it and HTC reached the same conclusion, that turns were bleeding too much E, making BnZ aircraft more dominant and easier than they ought to have been as compared to the slower, more agile aircraft.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Gman on December 09, 2013, 07:43:50 AM
I believe Karnak is correct.  I remember in Beta and even shortly after that if you tried to pull some of the G's we do now, especially at low speed and alt, you would stall and end up in the dirt by comparison.  I remember the brewhaha over this, as guys who flew like Lazs(FM2/other turning planes) were at a massive, massive disadvantage if they didn't kill their target in the first turn or so.  The planes sure handled much more difficulty in beta, one way or the other, most people who didn't fly then would be really shocked at the difference.

Toad was the person who got me into my first real squadron.  I had flown with JG2 in beta, but it was maxed out at 32 pilots and then some, and was sort of chaos.  The 13th tas flew a regular aircraft (P51) and had guys on every night.  Lots of guys, I remember learning to fly the P51 with them back then and having a dozen wingman on with me nearly every night, and we were a very small squad back then, that was very hard to get invited into.  Toad, Rude, Animal, Oz..., so many others I can't remember off the top of my head kept me in the game when I was pretty much finished with it, and that's kept me around the bbs and the game other than a few spans of being away working. 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 09, 2013, 09:03:27 AM
Great memories, Gman. Those were great times indeed. Hard to believe how personally close you can get to people in this game. I went and visited Sax and Beemer up in the Great White North. I was with OzKansas when the pancreatic cancer closed his eyes for the last time.

HTC created far more than a computer game.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: katanaso on December 09, 2013, 09:14:31 AM
I remember the FM in Beta being a big change from the years of playing AW4W RR then AW FR.

When I came back several years ago, the FM seemed much nicer.  No idea on the realism, as I'm not a pilot, but it was definitely more enjoyable than what I recall when I firsted tried it in the 90's.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Sabre on December 09, 2013, 01:37:34 PM
I was there, and also arranged/CM'd what I believe was the first AH organized scenario, a Battle of Britain event. As I recall, we had about 16 to 20 participants, evenly split between Bf-109s and Spitfires. Are whole squadron, "The Buccaneers" came over to AH from Warbirds. One of our squadies, "Gonzo", was in the closed beta (or Alpha??), and talked us into participating in the open beta.  It was awesome to be on the ground floor of something that has endured. :salute
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -aper- on December 09, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
I believe Karnak is correct.  I remember in Beta and even shortly after that if you tried to pull some of the G's we do now, especially at low speed and alt, you would stall and end up in the dirt by comparison.  I remember the brewhaha over this, as guys who flew like Lazs(FM2/other turning planes) were at a massive, massive disadvantage if they didn't kill their target in the first turn or so. 

It affected only stick jerkers. The max AoA was respectively lesser for all planes. The main thing was to learn how to perform agile maneuvering via accurate and gentle stick movements. The people who learned it  (like Mitsu for example) did miracles in dogfights. 


That was due to inaccuracies, not because the FM was made easier as a game concession.  I recall in was Lazs who kept pushing on it and HTC reached the same conclusion, that turns were bleeding too much E, making BnZ aircraft more dominant and easier than they ought to have been as compared to the slower, more agile aircraft.

We know that any dogfight depends more on pilot skill than a plane performance. With old flight model it depended even more on pilot skill. Sure there were people who did not want to learn but blame FM instead.
But who knows, may be in real life BnZ planes were actually more dominant (if flown with skills) to TnB planes.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Karnak on December 09, 2013, 11:36:54 PM
It affected only stick jerkers. The max AoA was respectively lesser for all planes. The main thing was to learn how to perform agile maneuvering via accurate and gentle stick movements. The people who learned it  (like Mitsu for example) did miracles in dogfights. 
It affected planes that used maneuverability more than those that used speed because it reduced the usefulness of their strongest trait.


Quote
We know that any dogfight depends more on pilot skill than a plane performance. With old flight model it depended even more on pilot skill. Sure there were people who did not want to learn but blame FM instead.
But who knows, may be in real life BnZ planes were actually more dominant (if flown with skills) to TnB planes.
Yes, and they are in AH now as well, just not as dominant as they were before the change.  As has been made abundantly clear by my posts here, I favor the Mossie VI and I assure you the slow, turny planes are not much threat unless paired with something fast to make me bleed E out so the turny thing can catch me.

To argue that the early flight model was better is to argue that making turns bleed E unrealistically was better.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -aper- on December 10, 2013, 04:13:31 AM
It affected planes that used maneuverability more than those that used speed because it reduced the usefulness of their strongest trait.

Stats do not prove your point though

You can see in Beta tours 1,2,3 that some planes were better then other but nothing shows abnormal domination of BnZ planes.

(http://aper.web44.net/temp/ah_beta.png)

(http://aper.web44.net/temp/ah_beta_2.png)

(http://aper.web44.net/temp/ah_beta_3.png)


Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Karnak on December 10, 2013, 08:13:49 AM
Doesn't mean the behavior of the aircraft was realistic.

I prefer greater accuracy.  You seem to prefer harder even at the expense of accuracy.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -aper- on December 10, 2013, 05:31:15 PM
Doesn't mean the behavior of the aircraft was realistic.

I prefer greater accuracy.  You seem to prefer harder even at the expense of accuracy.


It is not as simple as that.

HiTech and Pyro had years of FM development for WarBirds plus (correct me if I'm wrong) HiTech got some hours of real practice flying P-51.

That makes me think that FM in AH Beta was not a blunder but an attempt to represent the handling/behavior of a real plane as close as possible. As for data accuracy it affected all planes respectively, so it was not that big deal if it took 2-3 seconds more for ALL the planes to make a sustained turn.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: kvuo75 on December 10, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
anyone here from CK beta ?  what year was that 95 ?

yeah that's where I come from, the free CK/warbirds beta in 1995.. after it went live, I completely ditched the genre and got heavy into MS flight simulator until 2006..
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Citabria on December 10, 2013, 07:26:35 PM
edit... will start a new thread for this topic instead of hijacking this one :)

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,356886.0.html
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: RedTop on December 10, 2013, 07:49:37 PM
Tour12 for me.....

VFJackal.....many moons ago!!!  amazing the lack of skill I have after so many years....geeeesh I'm a dummy!!!   :bhead :lol :lol :old:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: killjoy1 on December 10, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
I followed Frodo when AH introduced the P-38.  Anybody remember when that was? 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Lusche on December 10, 2013, 08:33:56 PM
I followed Frodo when AH introduced the P-38.  Anybody remember when that was?  

Just after the Beta, version 1.01, released end of tour 1, Feb 29 2000
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Brooke on December 10, 2013, 08:35:39 PM
I played the beta of Confirmed Kill (HiTech's first flight sim).  Does that count?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Frodo on December 11, 2013, 09:02:28 PM
I followed Frodo when AH introduced the P-38.  Anybody remember when that was? 

 :old:   :devil

I still remember W/B 2.77 I think as the most fun.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: FLOOB on December 11, 2013, 09:11:49 PM
The O'Club was so much fun back in the day. I would've paid a subscription fee just for that. Remember Airhead?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 12, 2013, 10:42:14 AM
Air is still around on another board where some old AW/WB/AH folks migrated.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Biggles on December 12, 2013, 10:49:53 AM
I'm still here! Played on Day 1.  It's hard to remember the exact date, but I think it was around Sept. 6 1999.  I could be off a day or two. I was originally "AlgyFT". I closed my account for about a month in the mid 2000's, came back and changed my handle to "Biggles2".  I have a collection of about 90 Biggles books that I bought when I lived at RAF Bentwaters in England, and that's where I got the names Algy and Biggles.

Just prior to AH I flew EAW on Kali, as well as Net Duel, and a WW1 game that folded (I can't remember the name of it--not RB2, but it was very popular, help me out). They folded right when they were getting ready to release a new MMO called BOB (Battle of Britain). I also enjoyed Fighter Ace during the period when there just four fields.

Biggles2
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Butcher on December 12, 2013, 12:50:25 PM
SlowToad!!!!!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 12, 2013, 01:32:21 PM
Jeezz, it is good to see so many (relatively) of the old crowd still hanging around. I <S> you all! Thanks for checking in!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Frodo on December 12, 2013, 03:13:10 PM
I'm still here! Played on Day 1.  It's hard to remember the exact date, but I think it was around Sept. 6 1999.  I could be off a day or two. I was originally "AlgyFT". I closed my account for about a month in the mid 2000's, came back and changed my handle to "Biggles2".  I have a collection of about 90 Biggles books that I bought when I lived at RAF Bentwaters in England, and that's where I got the names Algy and Biggles.

Just prior to AH I flew EAW on Kali, as well as Net Duel, and a WW1 game that folded (I can't remember the name of it--not RB2, but it was very popular, help me out). They folded right when they were getting ready to release a new MMO called BOB (Battle of Britain). I also enjoyed Fighter Ace during the period when there just four fields.

Biggles2


I saw you a while back but forgot you were Algy. Good to see you are still around.  :cheers:

Jeezz, it is good to see so many (relatively) of the old crowd still hanging around. I <S> you all! Thanks for checking in!


Anyone remember the axis vs allies deathmatch events in early A/H? Had it's own map ans was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Lazerr on December 12, 2013, 03:36:19 PM
I'm still here! Played on Day 1.  It's hard to remember the exact date, but I think it was around Sept. 6 1999.  I could be off a day or two. I was originally "AlgyFT". I closed my account for about a month in the mid 2000's, came back and changed my handle to "Biggles2".  I have a collection of about 90 Biggles books that I bought when I lived at RAF Bentwaters in England, and that's where I got the names Algy and Biggles.

Just prior to AH I flew EAW on Kali, as well as Net Duel, and a WW1 game that folded (I can't remember the name of it--not RB2, but it was very popular, help me out). They folded right when they were getting ready to release a new MMO called BOB (Battle of Britain). I also enjoyed Fighter Ace during the period when there just four fields.

Biggles2


Holy crap i remember the name AlgyFT.. Didnt know that was you.  I used the handle Lookout for a short time when i started before switching to Lazer.  Anyone know if anyone from the =Twin Engined Devils= still play?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Biggles on December 12, 2013, 05:54:24 PM

I saw you a while back but forgot you were Algy. Good to see you are still around.  :cheers:


Thanks, Frodo! Good to see you still around, too.  A couple of years ago I exchanged emails with kbman. He was kicking around the idea of coming back, but I don't think made the move. Too bad. 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on December 12, 2013, 06:58:16 PM
Biggles…those Biggles books….are they for kids or an adult read? I had never heard of them until you just mentioned them.
They are on Amazon.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on December 13, 2013, 02:14:40 AM
Biggles…those Biggles books….are they for kids or an adult read? I had never heard of them until you just mentioned them.
They are on Amazon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggles

http://www.biggles.com/

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image001.jpg)

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image003.jpg)

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image018.jpg)

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image021.jpg)

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image032.jpg)

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image078.jpg)

(http://www.biggles.com/index_files/image089.jpg)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on December 13, 2013, 03:39:35 AM


Anyone remember the axis vs allies deathmatch events in early A/H? Had it's own map ans was a lot of fun.

The Rumble!  Oh yea,  that was a hoot! 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: SB on December 13, 2013, 07:57:07 AM
Just curious; I'm back after a long time away. Was just wondering who is left here that was in the AH Beta or first couple of Tours?

Does playing the Alpha count?  :lol
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Max on December 13, 2013, 08:54:25 AM
Harry!!!! How's things?

We need a cheeseburger reunion in Big D one of these years...with ice cream  :banana:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on December 13, 2013, 11:08:53 AM
Harry!!!! How's things?

We need a cheeseburger reunion in Big D one of these years...with ice cream  :banana:

http://twistedrootburgerco.com/ ?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/9943/e8ar.png)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7914/o2zl.png)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Brooke on December 13, 2013, 11:42:23 AM
Now that is a delicious-looking burger!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Biggles on December 13, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggles

http://www.biggles.com/


Thanks, Arlo, for that. I consider Biggles books to be "young adult' books, say ages 8 through 16, although they're interesting reads for adults, too, especially those interested in flying.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on December 13, 2013, 12:32:24 PM
Now that is a delicious-looking burger!

It's an hilarious place to eat, as well. They make up order names for the customers like 'Elvis the Pelvis, your order is ready.'

There is alcohol in them there shakes.

(http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/re9ujhTXMF_yALxYkAjk4Q/l.jpg)

They have a social conscience.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img546/6403/5dw0.png)

They celebrate 'Talk Like A Pirate Day'

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/156542_667348966611436_623333976_n.jpg)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: fd ski on December 13, 2013, 01:16:39 PM
Alpha count ? ;)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Been off and on since the old Air Warrior days....

Currently off .... but pricing a gaming rig for a self Xmas present......so likely I will be back soon.

<S> old timers......
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: bj229r on December 15, 2013, 12:34:56 PM
Prolly tour 5 or 6.....was buying a month here and there, as it was $30 a month back then.....been on consistently since 11.....and I'm STILL largely devoid of talent;
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Butcher on December 15, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
Prolly tour 5 or 6.....was buying a month here and there, as it was $30 a month back then.....been on consistently since 11.....and I'm STILL largely devoid of talent;

I can't even remember the price or the tour I started, I do remember the Chog and one of the spitfires being the only aircraft being really flown, Think I tried it for a month or so, then left - not very happy with the plane sets or being ho'd all day long by Chogs.
I do know I went back to Falcon 4 until 2002 or so then back to Aces.

I do remember Fester being ranked top 5 every damn hour, ironically he didn't fly the Chog or Spit/La7 then, it was something else I cant remember.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on December 15, 2013, 02:52:48 PM
I can't even remember the price or the tour I started, I do remember the Chog and one of the spitfires being the only aircraft being really flown, Think I tried it for a month or so, then left - not very happy with the plane sets or being ho'd all day long by Chogs.
I do know I went back to Falcon 4 until 2002 or so then back to Aces.

I do remember Fester being ranked top 5 every damn hour, ironically he didn't fly the Chog or Spit/La7 then, it was something else I cant remember.

P-38 -  all the time
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Teerex on December 15, 2013, 03:23:29 PM
Wow,  It's been a long time here..    When Dale and Company fired up Beta,  We ( Daddog, Docdog, Ghosth, Harppa and the rest of the 332nd Flying Mongrels ) downloaded Aces High on Daddog's suggestion.. The very first month that Aces High went public,  Daddog said that he was moving the squad to Aces High and all that wanted to were welcome to come along...  There isn't many of us left that were the original one's from the 332nd.  There are yours truly, Harppa and vaderr..

I've been here a long time and have watched this sim get better and it continually gets better and better....  I'm not going anywhere, Its a great sim and alot of fun to play..  Yeah-Yeah... :rock

As I recall,  It used to be $3.00 an hour to play,,, My wife was serious Wife-Ack back when she paid the bills... LOL :) :x

I need a beer to put out the fire,my tail feather's are still smokin from you guy's.....  :cheers:

 :salute

...Tee... :aok



 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: steely07 on December 15, 2013, 04:59:02 PM
I got a lot of help from Ghosth and Ozark when I first started, will always be thankful to them for that.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Mitsu on December 19, 2013, 07:05:23 PM
I'm in! :)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: TEShaw on December 21, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
Which beta?

You mean 'Confirmed Kill' when it was free?

Or 'Warbirds' when a monthly bill could approach $200?

Or when AH was free?

I was known as mess, then messer when you could have as many as 6 characters in your handle.

regards,

Airman T. E. Shaw R.A.F.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on February 09, 2014, 11:55:14 PM
I flew the beta. Had a great time. I have been reformed since those days. I used to stay up til 3am on a regular basis, and get up and go to work at 6:30. I will be 45 this week. The 3 little kids running around my house in those days have all grown up. My youngest one graduates high school this year. Those days are long gone. I do miss you guys though.
I have probably laughed the hardest in my life while playing aces high. Shooting various people down and seeing the reaction on the common channel. My wife thought I was nuts. As the years go by, I often think of what happened to my squaddies. I have forgotten some of their real names. I wish there was some way to look them up.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: aztec on February 10, 2014, 10:15:03 AM
hblair you old dawg...what's keepin ya from comin back?   :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on February 10, 2014, 10:59:22 AM
I flew the beta. Had a great time. I have been reformed since those days. I used to stay up til 3am on a regular basis, and get up and go to work at 6:30. I will be 45 this week. The 3 little kids running around my house in those days have all grown up. My youngest one graduates high school this year. Those days are long gone. I do miss you guys though.
I have probably laughed the hardest in my life while playing aces high. Shooting various people down and seeing the reaction on the common channel. My wife thought I was nuts. As the years go by, I often think of what happened to my squaddies. I have forgotten some of their real names. I wish there was some way to look them up.

<S> man - we had some good fights back then.  Any chance of coming back?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: kilz on February 10, 2014, 12:35:16 PM
i remember you toad

i havent flown in a while but recently fired the old rig up and thinking about logging back in for a few days a week

logged in this last weekend BOY was i rusty. flew like a noob
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Frodo on February 10, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
I flew the beta. Had a great time. I have been reformed since those days. I used to stay up til 3am on a regular basis, and get up and go to work at 6:30. I will be 45 this week. The 3 little kids running around my house in those days have all grown up. My youngest one graduates high school this year. Those days are long gone. I do miss you guys though.
I have probably laughed the hardest in my life while playing aces high. Shooting various people down and seeing the reaction on the common channel. My wife thought I was nuts. As the years go by, I often think of what happened to my squaddies. I have forgotten some of their real names. I wish there was some way to look them up.

Some great fights from you and Berserker from what I remember.  :cheers:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on February 10, 2014, 09:49:10 PM
I flew the beta.

Well, if it ain't Commander Rialbh!  :D

 :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on February 10, 2014, 10:06:42 PM
Aztec, Ammo, Kilz, Frodo, We had some good times guys. The way it is now, theres no way I'd have time to get back into aces high. Plus, I think I mighta had a problem with it. :rolleyes: My wife was just telling me that she hid my joystick one time and I got real upset lol. I actually don't remember that. I do remember flying way too much. How has the game changed in the last 8 or so years? Are the arenas different? How many people are in the arena on an average night? Is warbirds still around?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on February 10, 2014, 10:07:57 PM
lol commander rialbh!  ;)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Frodo on February 11, 2014, 01:28:04 PM
Aztec, Ammo, Kilz, Frodo, We had some good times guys. The way it is now, theres no way I'd have time to get back into aces high. Plus, I think I mighta had a problem with it. :rolleyes: My wife was just telling me that she hid my joystick one time and I got real upset lol. I actually don't remember that. I do remember flying way too much. How has the game changed in the last 8 or so years? Are the arenas different? How many people are in the arena on an average night? Is warbirds still around?



Dig out the joystick for 2 weeks and come find out!   :devil   There is someone with the handle Berserker playing again, although I don't know if it is the same Berserker that used to play.  :cheers:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 22, 2016, 04:17:49 PM
I got to thinking of you guys today. I noticed my old Hoffman simpeds and MS Joystick under my desk here at the shop. They've been under there for 8 years lol. Don't have the heart to throw them out. I might actually try coming back for a short period of time. Rust wouldn't be the word. I may have to fly under some alias like "gunman26" (remember him?) lol or something. We shall see gentlemen, we shall see...
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: BowHTR on September 22, 2016, 04:20:01 PM
I got to thinking of you guys today. I noticed my old Hoffman simpeds and MS Joystick under my desk here at the shop. They've been under there for 8 years lol. Don't have the heart to throw them out. I might actually try coming back for a short period of time. Rust wouldn't be the word. I may have to fly under some alias like "gunman26" (remember him?) lol or something. We shall see gentlemen, we shall see...

Come on back and give it a whirl!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Beefcake on September 22, 2016, 04:52:21 PM
I got to thinking of you guys today. I noticed my old Hoffman simpeds and MS Joystick under my desk here at the shop. They've been under there for 8 years lol. Don't have the heart to throw them out. I might actually try coming back for a short period of time. Rust wouldn't be the word. I may have to fly under some alias like "gunman26" (remember him?) lol or something. We shall see gentlemen, we shall see...

Come on back Hblair and give it a whirl. You can come back as gunman42 and even join us in October for the 12 hour scenario if you like. I need some B25 pilots.  :D

HBlair42
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Nefarious on September 22, 2016, 08:51:16 PM
<S> hblair! <S>
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 22, 2016, 09:09:06 PM
I got to thinking of you guys today. I noticed my old Hoffman simpeds and MS Joystick under my desk here at the shop. They've been under there for 8 years lol. Don't have the heart to throw them out. I might actually try coming back for a short period of time. Rust wouldn't be the word. I may have to fly under some alias like "gunman26" (remember him?) lol or something. We shall see gentlemen, we shall see...


Dude!

- oldman
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: SirNuke on September 23, 2016, 01:55:59 AM
Tour 21 over here, I could barely write or speak english at the time  :banana: I have met people in here that literally changed my life
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Drex on September 23, 2016, 03:43:21 AM
Can someone please lock Hblair back in his cage. :old:

Drex
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on September 23, 2016, 05:18:01 AM
A Drex sighting!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 23, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
You old coots. How's it going?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 23, 2016, 10:54:16 AM
I just noticed, this thread is from Feb. of '14. I had quad bypass heart surgery in August of '14. It was no fun. Anybody else falling apart?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Frodo on September 23, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
Damn, a hblair and drex sighting.   :noid   :cheers:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on September 23, 2016, 11:19:51 AM
You old coots. How's it going?

Just as good as can be!  Hope everything is well with you and you better be fully recovered from that 2014 event!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 23, 2016, 11:33:29 AM
Ammo, have you been in Enterprise Alabama the whole time? I didn't know you were in my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on September 23, 2016, 12:32:23 PM
Just moved to Enterprise last June from a ten year stint in Germany.  We are pleased to be here!  I grew up south of Montgomery.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Pongo on September 23, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
Good to hear your doing ok HB, and your marriage survived Aces High.... Those where crazy intense nights of gaming till 3 and then getting to work by 6 for me.. What a group the Assasins where lol. 
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Gman on September 23, 2016, 01:33:40 PM
Wow, Hblah, Pongo, and now Drex - who's next Leviathan?  Hope you guys give it a whirl again for a couple/few months, be fun flying with the Assassins and BKs again.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Mister Fork on September 23, 2016, 02:25:12 PM
Played Beta and still here...though not on line as much as I like.  Kids, family, marriage, life, all get in the way...  :airplane:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 23, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
Pongo!! What's up ol buddy? How's everything in the great white north?

Sounds like fun Gman.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Vulcan on September 23, 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Come on back Hblair and give it a whirl. You can come back as gunman42 and even join us in October for the 12 hour scenario if you like. I need some B25 pilots.  :D

HBlair42

Nooooo....

Nooooo....?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 23, 2016, 04:27:11 PM
Vulcy. Whasuuup..
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: hblair on September 23, 2016, 04:27:59 PM
Ammo, Did you get my private message? Doesn't seem to be working..
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 23, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
Yeeyeeh ... heeeer  :old:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Shuffler on September 23, 2016, 09:34:33 PM
All these old people
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: 38ruk on September 23, 2016, 09:37:06 PM
When did AW die? Not sure which tour but was here before AW went down for a trial and came back full time after it died.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 23, 2016, 10:14:35 PM
When did AW die?


December 7, 2001.  Flossy has video of the last fly-by.

- oldman
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Flossy on September 24, 2016, 03:41:51 AM

December 7, 2001.  Flossy has video of the last fly-by.

- oldman
Well I did, no idea if I still have it.  Changed computers several times since then.  I'll have to check.

I may have to fly under some alias like "gunman26" (remember him?) lol or something.
Oh yes, I remember him!   :noid

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: popeye on September 24, 2016, 08:45:07 AM
Played from the beginning until spring of 2003, then took an extended break.

"You can check out any time you like, but....."

 :D
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: dmdchief on September 24, 2016, 09:16:05 AM
I have been here since spring of 2001 first flew with nighthawks.  I didn't even know they had a website or bbs when I first started I kept floundering around and finally rattler told me to come to the bbs I could learn a lot from it..started on the board in aug 2001 as aac, long time ago it seems now

SALUTE ALL
ab8aac/dmdchief
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: -ammo- on September 24, 2016, 02:46:51 PM
Ammo, Did you get my private message? Doesn't seem to be working..


I did - and I responded promptly!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: 38ruk on September 24, 2016, 04:17:58 PM

December 7, 2001.  Flossy has video of the last fly-by.

- oldman

Ah...thx . Went back and looked on the stats page ...started tour 13 .
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: PropNut on September 24, 2016, 10:41:08 PM
Wow!   its great to see some of the old dogs  from the original beta and early $30.00 a month crowd from 1999. Salute to all .. :airplane:
PropNut
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Biggles on January 24, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
I am! Flew on the first day of the open beta, early September 1999, and never flew EAW, FA, FD or Warbirds again!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: airguard on January 24, 2017, 01:33:02 PM
Wow been awhile now, hard to find time to play. Had some medical issues too, but lives :) maybe it is time to download and start again.
Atleas I still remember the names :)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: BBQsam on January 24, 2017, 05:18:34 PM
 :salute  FLossy

Could you pretty please put that AW ( rip )  vid on youtube?

I remember flying with you in AW.
 :airplane:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Octavius on January 24, 2017, 06:29:46 PM
I'll sneak in and raise my hand.  I haven't flown, let alone upgraded my PC to handle anything beyond 2007. I miss gaming in general. Maybe I'll build something in the next few months and give this a shot again. I seriously cannot believe it's been, what, 16 or 17 years since first downloading Aces High. Jebus! I joined a few months after the original Beta... Jan/Feb 2000 ish? Flew Air Warrior a few years prior to AH... on the C team, of course.

Nice to see some familiar names though!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: fuzeman on January 24, 2017, 06:37:21 PM
nevermind  :lol
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: 1ijac on January 24, 2017, 06:46:18 PM
Flossy,  I miss the old Krait's program for AW to change the environment.   Is Spiffy still with us?

one-eye
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: 1ijac on January 24, 2017, 06:48:16 PM
All you forum posters that aren't currently flying in AH3, set up a rig and start flying!

one-eye
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: scott66 on January 24, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
All you forum posters that aren't currently flying in AH3, set up a rig and start flying!

one-eye
... This!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Oldman731 on January 24, 2017, 09:17:07 PM
Flossy,  I miss the old Krait's program for AW to change the environment.   Is Spiffy still with us?


He was as of a couple of weeks ago, still posting on Bigweek.

- oldman
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on January 24, 2017, 11:03:43 PM
Still here ... not as involved.  :aok Hey Cit  :cheers:
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: TequilaChaser on January 25, 2017, 12:02:52 AM
Good to see / hear from all of you who are not currently playing!

Biggles, dude, I too was thinking my first flight in the original Aces High Beta was back in September 1999, but recently noticed one of those little

Aces High "Did you know" hints / tips that pop up while the game loads what ever Arena you pick say: " Did you know that Aces High went live, October 1999 "

Was messing with my memory.... LOL

My maiden voyage that day, had hitech, pyro, NB, Lonz, nomde and a few others I can't remember clearly.... someone had already grabbed TC for their gameid in the beta, so I was TequilaC for all of the beta

When HTC went pay to play LIVE, I used DamnedTC until they flushed the stale accounts (where accounts were inactive) and was able to get my gameid TC .... I really just called HTC to get it, heh

Good to see names posting on the BBS that was here in the beginning, now you really need to login and check it out online

~§~ & cheers

TC
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Brooke on January 25, 2017, 12:47:53 AM
All of you guys should be playing in this:

http://ahevents.net/index.php/events/scenarios/current-or-next-scenario

 :aok
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Biggles on January 25, 2017, 03:23:32 PM

Biggles, dude, I too was thinking my first flight in the original Aces High Beta was back in September 1999, but recently noticed one of those little
Aces High "Did you know" hints / tips that pop up while the game loads what ever Arena you pick say: " Did you know that Aces High went live, October 1999 "

~§~ & cheers

TC

Well, anyone who played AH that many years ago is entitled to a "senior moment", eh?  The only thing I AM sure about is it was day one of the open beta. I still miss some of the early maps, like the one that had a pizza and a beer sitting on top of a plateau...always got a chuckle flying that one.  BTW, back then I was "AlgyFT".

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: CAV on January 25, 2017, 06:06:09 PM

WOW...

Is BigWeek still up and running???  Did a lot of time in there back in the day.

CAV
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Oldman731 on January 26, 2017, 08:11:05 AM
WOW...

Is BigWeek still up and running???  Did a lot of time in there back in the day.


Yup, although most of the posters have gravitated to a Facebook page.

- Oldman
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Arlo on January 26, 2017, 05:13:19 PM
Is it called 'BigWeek?'
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Mister Fork on January 26, 2017, 05:16:38 PM
I'm wondering how many of us old-timers had different names?  I started off with Brandor on Beta-1, then to Vruth for a while, and finally...well... Fork. 

Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Brooke on January 26, 2017, 06:01:15 PM
I was always "Brooke" -- because of not knowing what a "handle" was back in 1988 when I tried out Air Warrior, I just picked my first name.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on January 27, 2017, 09:32:18 AM
Holy Necro thread!

December of 2013 and it rises again!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: airguard on January 27, 2017, 04:25:14 PM
I still remember I was pretty happy in the beta.think it was one of my 20 first lucky kill in a fu4c. citabria called me a dweeb and it took me 1 week to understand that it was not a salute :)hahahaha

Do I remember wrong that the aircraft handling was pretty difficult last 3 months before it went no beta ?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Sabre on January 30, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
Just curious; I'm back after a long time away. Was just wondering who is left here that was in the AH Beta or first couple of Tours?

I was in Beta. I set up what may be the first special event, a Battle of Britain fight, using 109s vs. Spits (not historically accurate, of course, since we only had one, mid-war variant of each). It was in the MA (which is to say, the only) arena. Don't remember who won. Our Warbirds squadron, the Buccaneers, moved en masse to the AH beta. :salute
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Dobs on January 31, 2017, 02:23:27 PM
Toad...of Warbirds Toad? Like WAY WAY back when?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on February 01, 2017, 09:20:18 AM
Yeah, even way backer than that...AW ToadPS...WB Toad...AH Toad.

How you doing Dobs?

Funny how this genre has stuck with us old timers.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Dobs on February 01, 2017, 09:22:27 AM
Doing well my friend...made the jump a few months ago and I'm kicking myself for waiting:)

Hope to catch ya in the air!

<S>!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Shuffler on February 01, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
Dobs, Dawger and the bunch have fit in well here.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Vulcan on February 01, 2017, 02:11:15 PM
Toad...of Warbirds Toad? Like WAY WAY back when?

I was -vlcn- in the CK beta, and -vlkn- in Warbirds. I thought you'd been here longer dobs?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Joker312 on February 02, 2017, 02:40:04 PM
Good to see you posting here. Hope life has been kind to you and your family. Been quite some time since we crossed paths.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Dobs on February 02, 2017, 11:03:09 PM
I was -vlcn- in the CK beta, and -vlkn- in Warbirds. I thought you'd been here longer dobs?

Naw...probably going on 5 months now...

<S>!
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Biggles on February 03, 2017, 03:59:40 PM
Anyone here who played RB on TSN? Not trying to hijack this, just curious. How about, simguild's Flying Circus?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Ouch on February 03, 2017, 04:33:17 PM
Ye gods.  Lets see.

I started in AW.  Then moved to Confirmed Kill (the original beta), then to Warbirds, then to Aces High, AH II.

Been inactive now for as long as most of the people playing have been here.  :-(

Had to quit flying  when my (very young) daughter said something about me playing "that damn game".  Realized I needed to take a break.

Now they are in college and eventually, I'll be back.

Ouch
(VMF-214, Black Sheep, MAW, Blue Knights)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: PropNut on February 03, 2017, 10:35:12 PM
I believe I started flying beta in the summer of 99 , I remember when HT finally put guns in the B17 loads of fun.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: FESS67 on February 04, 2017, 01:15:58 AM
Flew in AW from 1995.  Went to wwiionline when they killed off AW then went to Fighter Ace before coming here.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Vulcan on February 04, 2017, 03:36:11 PM
Flew in AW from 1995.  Went to wwiionline when they killed off AW then went to Fighter Ace before coming here.

I played a little WW2OL while still here, with 3rd Panzer/dinkers group.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: RedDg on February 04, 2017, 10:27:37 PM
I was there.  Good to see ya Toad - hope your health is holding up!  Last time we talked you were looking to get a piece of artwork done for your Dad.  How's he doing?
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on February 05, 2017, 01:12:10 PM
Hey RedDg, long time.

My health is really pretty good. I can still follow a Labrador through the pheasant fields all day long with no problem. As long as I can do that, I figure my health is just fine. ;)

My Dad, who briefly posted here as Panther, died 19 months ago. He only made it about three weeks after my Mom died. They are both together in Arlington now. They both did pretty well right up to the end though. We should all be so lucky.
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Brooke on February 05, 2017, 01:33:04 PM
My condolences to you, Toad, and best regards to you and your family. <S>
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: RedDg on February 05, 2017, 02:03:16 PM
I'm truly sorry Toad.  I enjoyed the stories you told about him <S>
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: Toad on February 05, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
Thank you, gentlemen.

He was quite a man. I have yet to meet anyone as honest or anyone possessing more integrity. I struggle every day trying to live up to his standards.

Here is a picture taken about 1951 when he was 31 years old. He had just logged more hours in the B-25 than anyone else in the USAF. He was #1, thus the finger in the air.

I don't know if he still holds that record or not.

(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah14/labradoors/Dad%20b25b_zpsvt7p3jrw.jpg)
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: JimmyC on February 05, 2017, 10:47:04 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: OK…who's left here that played the Beta?
Post by: CptTrips on March 01, 2017, 09:21:30 AM
I remember the Beta fondly.  Some of the best gaming hours I ever had.

It felt like stepping foot into undiscovered country.  There were occasional glitches but fixes and improvements were coming at a furious pace.  Nothing but great promise.  It was all new and pilots from other games were pouring in like the Gathering from Highlander. ;)

It's easy to forget how revolutionary HTC flat rate was back then.  Everyone else was hourly. 

 :salute