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Title: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: wpeters on December 09, 2013, 02:44:09 PM
Any good free anti virus avaliable
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Wiley on December 09, 2013, 03:46:24 PM
Any good free anti virus avaliable

I use Microsoft Security Essentials, never had an issue I'm aware of.  I also don't have anything critical on my home machine.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: wpeters on December 09, 2013, 06:08:20 PM
I use Microsoft Security Essentials, never had an issue I'm aware of.  I also don't have anything critical on my home machine.

Wiley.
.    Thanks
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Triton28 on December 09, 2013, 06:28:20 PM
A combination of MSE and Malwarebytes seems to be a good choice. 
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: WWhiskey on December 09, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
MSE is all I have,, running Firefox ,,no problems for years now!
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 09, 2013, 06:59:21 PM
I use ESET Smart Security as it's the most gaming friendly anti-virus/malware program I've used. 

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Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Brooke on December 09, 2013, 07:16:40 PM
At work, we use Microsoft Security Essentials, which I'm happy with.

At home, I use Avast free version, which I'm happy with.

Either one is free and good, in my opinion.  Microsoft Security Essentials is easiest to use of the two.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Masherbrum on December 09, 2013, 08:28:29 PM
I use ESET Smart Security as it's the most gaming friendly anti-virus/malware program I've used. 

ack-ack

Ditto.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 09, 2013, 08:58:46 PM
Ditto.

Great minds think alike.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/TKE_crest.png/160px-TKE_crest.png)

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Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 09, 2013, 11:56:48 PM
MSE is not a 'real' antivirus, it lacks many of the features of eset etc. MS has intended it to be used only together with internet explorer, outlook etc. with protection level at cripple, meaning attachments are blocked etc. :)
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: BaldEagl on December 09, 2013, 11:58:45 PM
I use MS Security Essentials after dumping McAfee a couple of years ago.  It's got a small footprint although MS themselves have descibed it as "baseline protection".  As long as you aren't stupid it's good enough and it's free.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Brooke on December 10, 2013, 12:12:54 AM
I haven't had any problems with MSE blocking my attachments.  Maybe it won't let through .exe attachments -- not sure about that, but if so, you can just put them in a .zip and it will let them through.

MSE is what I'd recommend for a lot of folks, as you don't need to know anything, and it's pretty hard to mess up.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: RotBaron on December 10, 2013, 01:12:08 AM
As you should be done with it or any of the other big box store AV's.

In my job I'm regularly removing garbage that Norton/McAfee allows, installs or demands that it be a part of their software.

I used to run AVG, now they have too many programs running simultaneously that can not be turned off.

Avast (free) is good.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2013, 02:21:11 AM
Do not use Zone Alarm.

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Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 10, 2013, 02:51:51 AM
I haven't had any problems with MSE blocking my attachments.  Maybe it won't let through .exe attachments -- not sure about that, but if so, you can just put them in a .zip and it will let them through.

MSE is what I'd recommend for a lot of folks, as you don't need to know anything, and it's pretty hard to mess up.

Thats just it, MSE does not have the protections many other suites do because it expects IE and outlook to block 'dangerous' files by default. If you use firefox or chrome to browse or an alternative e-mail client, MSE is fatally flawed immediately. And quite ironically using IE to browse is one of the worst mistakes one can do in general so it's a no win situation basically.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Patches1 on December 10, 2013, 06:22:25 AM
Any thoughts about VIPRE ?
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Skuzzy on December 10, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
I use ESET Smart Security as it's the most gaming friendly anti-virus/malware program I've used. 

ack-ack

From all the various complaints we get to deal with, Avast, AVG, Norton, McAfee are the worst of the lot, in terms of impacting games.  ESET has consistently been the best.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Masherbrum on December 10, 2013, 09:21:26 AM
Great minds think alike.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9f/TKE_crest.png/160px-TKE_crest.png)

ack-ack

Damn straight my brother

YITB
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Rich46yo on December 10, 2013, 10:52:38 AM
Trend micro has been wonderful for me. I buy a family pack every year.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Brooke on December 10, 2013, 11:06:25 AM
Thats just it, MSE does not have the protections many other suites do because it expects IE and outlook to block 'dangerous' files by default. If you use firefox or chrome to browse or an alternative e-mail client, MSE is fatally flawed immediately. And quite ironically using IE to browse is one of the worst mistakes one can do in general so it's a no win situation basically.

We use MSE at work and have had no problems as far as I know.  Some folks use IE, some use chrome, some use Firefox, and none of us uses Outlook (we use Thunderbird and Lightning instead, which I like a lot better).  We do browse all kinds of stuff at work, not just a few work-related sites.  I think that MSE is decent.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 10, 2013, 11:10:37 AM
We use MSE at work and have had no problems as far as I know.  Some folks use IE, some use chrome, some use Firefox, and none of us uses Outlook (we use Thunderbird and Lightning instead, which I like a lot better).  We do browse all kinds of stuff at work, not just a few work-related sites.  I think that MSE is decent.

If you have had no problems it just means none of your users happened to click on anything bad so far. You probably would have done good without any protection ;)
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Brooke on December 10, 2013, 12:27:37 PM
If you have had no problems it just means none of your users happened to click on anything bad so far. You probably would have done good without any protection ;)

Maybe, but I suspect that MSE is OK given web surfing habits of folks in our company is about the same as a home user, and we get plenty of malicious spam sent to the company.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Wiley on December 10, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
If you have had no problems it just means none of your users happened to click on anything bad so far. You probably would have done good without any protection ;)

Kind of a general question, what stops things like malicious code coming in from browsing without downloading a file and opening it?  I'm thinking in terms of 'You're our 1 millionth visitor' type crap.  Doesn't stuff like MSE or ESET or what have you prevent that kind of thing from opening?  I obviously never click the links, but I had always assumed the real time protection aspects of most antivirus would (attempt to) stop that kind of thing.  Am I pretty much only getting by on the fact that I don't click the links and kill the browser manually if something really weird pops up?

Wiley.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2013, 03:02:15 PM
Kind of a general question, what stops things like malicious code coming in from browsing without downloading a file and opening it?  I'm thinking in terms of 'You're our 1 millionth visitor' type crap.  Doesn't stuff like MSE or ESET or what have you prevent that kind of thing from opening?  I obviously never click the links, but I had always assumed the real time protection aspects of most antivirus would (attempt to) stop that kind of thing.  Am I pretty much only getting by on the fact that I don't click the links and kill the browser manually if something really weird pops up?

Wiley.

ESET does, don't know about MSE. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: danny76 on December 10, 2013, 03:19:12 PM
I just use Firefox and self restraint :old:
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Kenne on December 10, 2013, 04:10:36 PM
ESET has consistently been the best.

ESET all-in-one or just the AV/Aphish version?
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Skuzzy on December 11, 2013, 06:44:18 AM
ESET all-in-one or just the AV/Aphish version?

The A/V product.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Bizman on December 11, 2013, 09:47:30 AM
ESET all-in-one or just the AV/Aphish version?
All-in-One versions of any anti-xxx product will cripple your system. Period.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Masherbrum on December 11, 2013, 10:13:28 AM
All-in-One versions of any anti-xxx product will cripple your system. Period.

So the gamer mode on ESET Smart Security 7 doesn't work?   It does and I rarely have to enable it when playing ANY GAME.   
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 11, 2013, 10:28:25 AM
Kind of a general question, what stops things like malicious code coming in from browsing without downloading a file and opening it?  I'm thinking in terms of 'You're our 1 millionth visitor' type crap.  Doesn't stuff like MSE or ESET or what have you prevent that kind of thing from opening?  I obviously never click the links, but I had always assumed the real time protection aspects of most antivirus would (attempt to) stop that kind of thing.  Am I pretty much only getting by on the fact that I don't click the links and kill the browser manually if something really weird pops up?

Wiley.

Disabling flash, java and javascript stops most browser based attacks to their tracks. Using Firefox with noscript and not installing java and/or adobe reader at all goes a long way and this is all that's needed to stop the 'you've won blablabla' crap and popup windows. Windows XP is also vulnerable to a JPG exploit where code is executed simply by viewing a tailored jpg image, but this has been fixed in all OSes after it.

Foxit PDF reader does everything that adobe reader does, free, faster and safer. Noscript blocks also flash scripts from running so if you're into browser based games you're going to have to risk and enable flash case by case if you want the flash game to run. I run noscript even on linux and OSX while browsing and I've decided that if a website doesn't display properly without enabling scripts on it, I don't need to use it.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Bizman on December 11, 2013, 12:01:55 PM
So the gamer mode on ESET Smart Security 7 doesn't work?   It does and I rarely have to enable it when playing ANY GAME.   
I wasn't saying Gamer mode doesn't work. But your input raises a couple of further questions... How exactly does the gamer mode work? I have it on in Avast and it works, too. In my case it means that no pop-up messages are shown. It doesn't stop downloading signatures, though. It may even do some background scanning during gameplay, I don't know. Do you? Does Eset stop the Vulnerability Shield or Exploit Blocker in Gamer mode? I doubt. Besides, Eset Smart Security isn't an all-in-one in the measure like Norton 360. Based on the information given on Eset's site it seems to be just an anti-virus with a firewall, the functionality listed separately for marketing purposes.

Speaking about Norton360, it has all that and lots more. There's a built-in temporary files cleaner, a defragger, a backup reminder and what not. Back in the days of yore Norton had five different products for sale and back then they were superb compared to their Windows equivalents. Today they've packed all of them into a single package in the name of customer service and simplicity, causing people to go crazy with all the nagging about the computer being vulnerable because no backup has been configured etc. For a gamer it's even worse, the 360 seems to do all kinds of maintenance things every time it thinks the computer is idle - like during a bomb run...
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Delirium on December 11, 2013, 01:10:00 PM
I use ESET on my personal machines and my business machines. It definitely has the smallest footprint when compared to the bulky AV programs like Nortons.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: 2bighorn on December 11, 2013, 01:10:34 PM
I wasn't saying Gamer mode doesn't work. But your input raises a couple of further questions... How exactly does the gamer mode work? I have it on in Avast and it works, too. In my case it means that no pop-up messages are shown. It doesn't stop downloading signatures, though. It may even do some background scanning during gameplay, I don't know. Do you? Does Eset stop the Vulnerability Shield or Exploit Blocker in Gamer mode? I doubt. Besides, Eset Smart Security isn't an all-in-one in the measure like Norton 360. Based on the information given on Eset's site it seems to be just an anti-virus with a firewall, the functionality listed separately for marketing purposes.

Can't speak about Eset security Suite, but Eset AV (NOD32) suppresses all notifications and scheduled tasks (updates, scans, etc) in gamer mode. It's also very light on memory and CPU. 90MB for Eset service and another 10MB for GUI.
Also, you can configure it to go into gamer mode automatically when application is in full screen mode.

I prefer to mix and match rather than go for full suites.
Eset NOD32 + Outpost Pro Firewall is a combo which works very well (resources and compatibility) and both have configuration options to please the newbies and geeks alike.
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Kenne on December 11, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
Eset NOD32 + Outpost Pro Firewall is a combo which works very well (resources and compatibility) and both have configuration options to please the newbies and geeks alike.

this can work with Win 7?
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: 2bighorn on December 11, 2013, 03:17:02 PM
this can work with Win 7?

Sure
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: Scca on December 12, 2013, 06:55:21 AM
From all the various complaints we get to deal with, Avast, AVG, Norton, McAfee are the worst of the lot, in terms of impacting games.  ESET has consistently been the best.
Skuzzy, what complaints have you gotten regarding AVG?  I use it and haven't noticed an issue, I will say though that I may not know that I am :)
Title: Re: Done with Nortons Antivirus.
Post by: ozrocker on December 15, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
Idk, I've used Avast forever and have never had an issue (that I know of) :aok




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