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Title: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Shifty on December 09, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
This probably won't be a big hit but in my opinion it would be cool if you could add the tropical filters on the fighters mentioned above for N. Africa or Med Special events maps. I know the Volkes filter used on the Spits supposedly affected performance but it would be a nice little piece of immersive eye candy if nothing else for
special events.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Devil 505 on December 09, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
+7000
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Karnak on December 09, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
Performance altering things like that cannot be done, per Pyro many years ago.  We'd need new versions added to accomplish it.

(Pyro's information came in reference to making Spitfire wing tips a hangar option)
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Shifty on December 09, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Performance altering things like that cannot be done, per Pyro many years ago.  We'd need new versions added to accomplish it.

(Pyro's information came in reference to making Spitfire wing tips a hangar option)

I also wished to win the Powerball Lotto. Looks like the chances of both are running neck and neck then.  :D
Don't both the bazooka tubes and the Luftwaffe rocket tubes affect performance?
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Tank-Ace on December 09, 2013, 05:09:56 PM
Yes, but only in the same way that a bomb, or any other form of rockets do. They add drag and weight only, they don't actually change the flight model.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Shifty on December 09, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
Yes, but only in the same way that a bomb, or any other form of rockets do. They add drag and weight only, they don't actually change the flight model.

Drag and weight affects performance the filters add drag and weight in the same manner. Other than that they do not affect flight characteristics any more than a bazooka tube.
Their function was to keep sand out of the engine nothing more.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: HighTone on December 09, 2013, 06:06:26 PM
If Shifty wants it....I'm game.

+1 for the trop filters  :cheers:
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Tank-Ace on December 09, 2013, 06:09:24 PM
Drag and weight affects performance the filters add drag and weight in the same manner. Other than that they do not affect flight characteristics any more than a bazooka tube.
Their function was to keep sand out of the engine nothing more.

I never said a word about the filters being impossible, I just answered your question.


But wouldn't the filter reduce airflow to some degree?
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: icepac on December 09, 2013, 06:53:03 PM
spit V already flies like it has the filters choking it's intake tract.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Shifty on December 09, 2013, 06:55:28 PM
But wouldn't the filter reduce airflow to some degree?

Marginally at best I would think. Not 100% sure though. From what I've read the Volkes filter added weight and drag to the Spitfire Vs that is what affected the performance.
The filters on the 109s were more compact and fit on the actual airscoop itself.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Tank-Ace on December 09, 2013, 07:28:43 PM
I just know there's precedent of filters constricting airflow to the point of performance degradation in tanks, and aircraft engines, being tuned for much higher power and being run much harder would likely be more adversely affected.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Shifty on December 09, 2013, 09:57:58 PM
There's even a bigger precedent for sand.  ;)

None of the aircraft I ever worked on needed tropical filters so I really couldn't say. The only prop planes I worked on had Continental reciprocating engines. I do know hot weather affected the performance of our A-10s during the Arizona summers. If you looked at an F-111 wrong that caused all kinds of problems.
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: ONTOS on December 10, 2013, 03:33:57 PM
If we had a dessert map (which others and myself have ask for) the filter would make since. Also we could use the dessert skins. Also, if we had a winter map, we could use the winter skins and perhaps mufflers (for the planes and our selves).
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: Lusche on December 10, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
If we had a dessert map (which others and myself have ask for) the filter would make since. Also we could use the dessert skins.


(http://images.travelpod.com/users/juleo/1.1256917957.desert-dessert.jpg)

Sorry, couldn't resist. 3 am here and I can't find any sleep...  ;)
Title: Re: Bf-109F/G and Spit MkV Trop filters.
Post by: SmokinLoon on December 11, 2013, 11:45:07 AM
The Hurricane MK IID has the desert filter added.