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Title: Early Santa
Post by: earl1937 on December 22, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
 :airplane: Guess I should have made this question to you guys before I bought, but my CH fighter stick, pedals and throttle, went out 3 days ago. The brakes went out about 8 months ago after about 4 months of use. So I decided to purchase the X-52 system with rudder pedals and would like to hear your comments pro or con, so that I will know what to look for in setting them up and using.
Any comments would be appreciated!

Thanks

Earl
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Arlo on December 22, 2013, 10:28:58 AM
Never owned/used that set, myself. Did run across these diagrams, if they mean anything to you:

(http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43486&d=1287528685)

(http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43493&stc=1&d=1287533908)

Merry Christmas, Earl. My family and I wish you the best.

Arlo and co.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Shifty on December 22, 2013, 10:31:59 AM
I had the X52 for years. A lot of people complain about them but I only had to replace my joystick once over about a 7 year period.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Arlo on December 22, 2013, 10:37:26 AM
I had the X52 for years. A lot of people complain about them but I only had to replace my joystick once over about a 7 year period.

ST290 pro for seven years now.  ;)
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Latrobe on December 22, 2013, 10:38:36 AM
I've had my X52 for over 5 or 6 years now without any real problems. I heard a lot of people saying that the X52 has calibration issues but I've never had any of that with mine.

Through all these years now the only problems I have with it is the D button on the throttle is a bit touchy and will double activate sometimes, one of the directions on the 4 way hat switch on the throttle is also touchy and double activates, and the cup sitting under the spring on the stick is pretty worn so the stick will be stuck when trying to perform maneuvers sometimes. I fixed that by putting a piece of cloth under the cup, played with it for about a week, took the cloth back out and the stickiness was solved for a few months.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Rich46yo on December 22, 2013, 10:46:31 AM
Ive had three of them thru the years. They are inexpensive and work fairly well. I stayed with them cause Im used to them.

I guess i could recomend them. Whatever you do keep you receipt and register it with Saitek. They have like a 2 year return policy, tho support for the X52 is hard to come by.

Were I younger and really into flight games I'd probably spend the money and buy a Warthog. Im not flying anymore so my X52 is put away for a sunnier day.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: earl1937 on December 22, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
Ive had three of them thru the years. They are inexpensive and work fairly well. I stayed with them cause Im used to them.

I guess i could recomend them. Whatever you do keep you receipt and register it with Saitek. They have like a 2 year return policy, tho support for the X52 is hard to come by.

Were I younger and really into flight games I'd probably spend the money and buy a Warthog. Im not flying anymore so my X52 is put away for a sunnier day.
:salute Rich, we miss you in the game and I would fly your wing anyday sir! Come on back, less get together and fly some together and let me tap on your experience some!
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Arlo on December 22, 2013, 02:18:28 PM
(http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/744/Stick.PNG)

(http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/iblock/0e3/Throttle.PNG)

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/487261/

The other images were from: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1007074
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Fulcrum on December 22, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
Saitek is poo.
Fulcrum is a control stick snob.
Zach is awesome.  

 :D

FYI - thanks for the diagraming idea.  I should throw one together for my setup....even I get confused on occasion!  ;)
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: LCADolby on December 22, 2013, 03:04:26 PM
I had an X52 pro, it was unusable and broken within a month. Send it back and save yourself disappointment.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Lusche on December 22, 2013, 03:15:40 PM
I had an X52 pro,


Best stick I ever had. Heavily abusing it for now about 5-6 years @ 130h/month
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: FiLtH on December 22, 2013, 03:23:56 PM
  I had the X52 for about a week. After using FFB for years it felt like holding  a mop in a bucket.  Straight traded that pos out for another ffb.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Arlo on December 22, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
I had an X52 pro, it was unusable and broken within a month. Send it back and save yourself disappointment.

Zen over ham-fist.  ;)
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: LCADolby on December 22, 2013, 04:08:10 PM
Zen over ham-fist.  ;)

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, X52 is poo, poo is X52
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 22, 2013, 06:16:47 PM
Been using  my X52 for about 6 years. I personally love it, although I do use CH rudder peddles. I'd say the biggest issue you will have is getting use to how flimsy the stick is. Will take a couple months to get use to
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: kvuo75 on December 22, 2013, 06:33:22 PM
my brother's gone thru 2 or 3 x52's (the plastic one tho, not the pro)

I've gone thru about 15 Logitech extreme3dpro's

(in about 8 years)


I personally don't like the x52, it's too "floppy" for me..


Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: MK-84 on December 22, 2013, 07:20:01 PM
Sidewinder Precision pro, Finally replaced it this year.  I bought it in 1998.  Pretty good investment I would say.  It still works, but its no backup to a logitech wingman extreme that I am not very thrilled with. I might just go back to the sidewinder.
The logitech controls are not balanced very well, requiring far to little effort in the "twist" control for the rudder.  The ergonomics are terrible causing me to have to hunt for buttons when I've been using it long enough that I shouldnt have to. The trigger location essentially forces you to hover your finger over it, which can (and has) cause me to let off a burst of gunfire unintentionally.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: Fulcrum on December 23, 2013, 07:49:44 AM
Geez...I just thought about it and I've owned WAY too many joysticks.

- I owned CH sticks back in the gameport days....fantastic quality.  I also owned one of the old Suncom F15 sticks which I liked even better but it didnt have the quality of the CH stick (it was still very good...so much so I'm considering modding one for USB for my son).
- I had (and still own) a Microsoft Precision Pro and it still works no spiking...MS actually made good hardware for a long time.  It was my first USB stick.
- I tried Saitek.  Had the X45.  Had the X52.  Had the X52 pro.  All crap.  All died within a year.
- Few years back I bought the Logitech G940.  Loved force feedback (it was my first FFB stick) but the reversal bug drove me mad.  Finally got a modded Thrustmaster Cougar for cheap and loved it so much I bought the Warthog a year later.  And now I own the VKB Black Manba and interchange it with the Warthog.  I'm now officially a "all metal" joystick snob.   :aok

If my wife knew how much money I've blown on flight sims over the years I think she'd shoot me.   :D
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: aztec on December 23, 2013, 08:13:34 AM
I got 13 years out of my 1st CH setup...I'm only 3 years into my second set. 
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 25, 2013, 12:11:24 PM
I have the X52 and am very happy with it. I've only had it for about 15 months now but it is great. Now  just need to get a set of pedals. :pray
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 25, 2013, 12:13:01 PM
Earl, you might want to look at the new Saitek X55, dual throttles and other new features.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: captain1ma on December 25, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
ive used the the X-52 with saitek rudders. everyone said i should use CH sticks so i went to them, but i LOVED the X-52. once i memorized the buttons it was awesome. i still have it and use it as a backup for my ch setup. i never had a bad experience with it, and love it. i thought the CH's had less buttons, and was a more boring stick. the timer in the throttle was nice in the saitek, as i used it to know when guns would come back up after we killed them. the CH is a much smoother stick, but i stilled killed people with my saitek. i found it an all around more enjoyable stick.  just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: SKJohn on December 25, 2013, 04:20:28 PM
I must of lucked out and got a good one.  I am still using the same Saitek X-45 that I got when I started AH back 2004.  Tried a CH stick for awhile, but it had some kind of problems (can't remember what exactly....) went back to the X-45 and its still going strong.  Granted I don't do 100+ hours a month anymore, but in the early years I did and its still working.  Either I got a good one, or I am just very light on the controls . . .?
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on December 25, 2013, 09:25:05 PM
Earl, you might want to look at the new Saitek X55, dual throttles and other new features.
Geesh... what's the price on that behemoth...


 :confused: Do I want to know?
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 26, 2013, 03:06:01 PM
Geesh... what's the price on that behemoth...


 :confused: Do I want to know?

I heard that it is supposed to be below $200.00.
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: 10thmd on December 26, 2013, 03:41:26 PM
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, X52 is poo, poo is X52

With those words one might think you were a mortar "We hit it from all angles!"
Title: Re: Early Santa
Post by: XxDaSTaRxx on December 26, 2013, 05:05:25 PM
I heard that it is supposed to be below $200.00.

:aok Ah well then found me a new stick for DCS A-10C  :rock