Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Chalenge on December 27, 2013, 07:36:12 PM
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EVGA is advertising a maximum resolution of 3 x 1920 x 1080 or 5760 x 1080 on a single card. Something tells me this is going to really stress a GTX 680.
If, I am to succeed in using the 5760 x 1080 resolution plus add a fourth display (Intuos Cintiq 24hd), what card(s) would you think might have the best chance of accomplishing that?
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IMO the most expensive you can get.
I run that resolution with a lowly radeon 6780 I get 60fps with low details.
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Maximum supported resolutions:
Nvidia Titan 4096 x 2160
Nvidia GTX 690 4096 x 2160
Nvidia Quadro K6000 2560 x 1600
Likewise AMD specifications indicate that the maximum resolution the card you suggested (6790 or 6770, as they don't list a 6780) would be 2560 x 1600, so . . .
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Maximum supported resolutions:
Nvidia Titan 4096 x 2160
Nvidia GTX 690 4096 x 2160
Nvidia Quadro K6000 2560 x 1600
Likewise AMD specifications indicate that the maximum resolution the card you suggested (6790 or 6770, as they don't list a 6780) would be 2560 x 1600, so . . .
Maximum resolution for a single monitor duh.
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Yes, duh Ripley. But that's not the question. I already know I can get three monitors working in Metro, but the problem is on a 680 it is anything but smooth.
All I really need in AH is detail water, detail terrain, bump map my plane, and terrain. I use a texture size of 2048 and I like an anti-aliasing setting of at least x8.
So, to reiterate the question; if a 5760 x 1080 resolution is to be used on the EVGA DisplayPort Hub on (say) a GTX 680, will the performance be less than using a single monitor (assuming the same settings)? I think, yes. So, the next question is (the original question) what card(s) might have the best chance of accomplishing this?
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Yes, duh Ripley. But that's not the question. I already know I can get three monitors working in Metro, but the problem is on a 680 it is anything but smooth.
All I really need in AH is detail water, detail terrain, bump map my plane, and terrain. I use a texture size of 2048 and I like an anti-aliasing setting of at least x8.
So, to reiterate the question; if a 5760 x 1080 resolution is to be used on the EVGA DisplayPort Hub on (say) a GTX 680, will the performance be less than using a single monitor (assuming the same settings)? I think, yes. So, the next question is (the original question) what card(s) might have the best chance of accomplishing this?
Thats a tough call since AH doesn't utilize the GPU as much as it could. I have no idea how much the increase in resolution would in fact tax your cpu instead. You should get at least one gtx780ti to make sure your GPU can handle the load at smooth framerates.
What happened to your triple sli system? IIRC you had one.
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If you understand the way SLI works, then you should also know it is not the best way to get Aces High working at its best at these resolutions, because of the limits of memory. The Quad SLI system I have would (I suspect) run out of memory before it could anti-alias that kind of resolution. My suspicion is that the added memory of the Titan (6GB vs 3GB for the 780Ti) would come in handy for anti-aliasing, as well as shadows (when recording videos). My hope is that Skuzzy might have seen a prototype DisplayPort Hub at the last eShow/convention, and might shed some light on what the capabilities might be.
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Thats a tough call since AH doesn't utilize the GPU as much as it could. I have no idea how much the increase in resolution would in fact tax your cpu instead. You should get at least one gtx780ti to make sure your GPU can handle the load at smooth framerates.
What happened to your triple sli system? IIRC you had one.
Side note for Skuzzy
Why doesn't AH do the bold?
(Why only 2 cores and not 4)
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The game uses a balanced approach to the hardware and uses the GPU when it makes sense. This allows the game to run on low end motherboard video chips, which is the lion share of the market place.
We have been waiting for a long time for Shader Version 3.0 to be the bulk of what is out there. That is the first version which really allows a lot of flexibility in many areas.
Now, as to multi-core. It makes no sense to use more than two cores, directly, at the moment. There would be no benefit in doing so. Like the shader version, waiting for quad cores to be the overwhelming standard is only prudent. Once we are there, and it makes sense, then it will be done.
All this is for now. What is coming may change it all, or it may not, depends on what works best for the majority of systems in the marketplace.
Chalenge, I really do not have any hands on time with that NVidia card. I do not know how that high of a resolution will impact it.
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If you understand the way SLI works, then you should also know it is not the best way to get Aces High working at its best at these resolutions, because of the limits of memory. The Quad SLI system I have would (I suspect) run out of memory before it could anti-alias that kind of resolution. My suspicion is that the added memory of the Titan (6GB vs 3GB for the 780Ti) would come in handy for anti-aliasing, as well as shadows (when recording videos). My hope is that Skuzzy might have seen a prototype DisplayPort Hub at the last eShow/convention, and might shed some light on what the capabilities might be.
If you lack memory to antialias then just skip it. At that resolution jagged endges are fairly small. I usually prefer to run games without post processing etc. because I prefer the sharp and clear graphics instead of soft when it comes to online games.
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at 5760*1980 I'm not sure any videocard has enough RAM to support max textures and max antialias :headscratch:
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The video card would need a minimum of 3GB of dedicated video memory to run with full anti-aliasing and high resolution textures. 130.5MB of the RAM would be the frame buffers needed.
The amount of video RAM used, is only really impacted by the frame buffers. Everything else stays the same as far as how much video RAM is used.
The amount of video RAM will used will be dependent on how many objects are in your sphere of influence.
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Okay, so it's either Titan, or wait and see what memory capabilities they give Maxwell (GeForce 8##). It's supposed to be able to access main memory, which might be good I guess. Hopefully in the third week of February we will have at least an idea.
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I've been running this game with an I7, titan, and 120 hertz monitor for awhile and now I hear about quad SLI's and such lol. I didn't even know one could have quad SLI. :O
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the R290X is a pretty good contender also, I intend to get one for the AH new graphics :rock
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First off, I don't think that any previous generation GPU architecture will compete with Maxwell. Also, I don't recommend anyone just rush out and buy one when they are released. It's not that I think the money will be wasted, but that this is a new approach and there is no telling how it will really play out. Primarily the design is intended (rumored) to correct for energy and heat issues that have plagued earlier designs. However, Nvidia is also attempting to decrease dependency on the CPU, and they are doing that by including a CPU on the card (alongside the GPU). Add to that the high cost of memory on a card that is intended to increase GPU memory (6-8GB on even mobile platforms) and it sounds like Nvidia might be setting themselves up for a face palm moment. How all of that will mix with the attempt to utilize system memory is anyone's guess, until we actually see the goods. You can bet Maxwell will not be cheap.
I can't wait to see the real deal, but I'm not looking forward to the inevitable sticker shock.
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Just got myself a R280X DirectCU instead of a lowly HD6870. I don't plan on running AH with full details but I didn't touch the card's limitations just yet.
I was actually able to enable Eyefinity with 2 monitors in DVI and one in HDMI, I couldn't do that before.
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More of the same thing I'm afraid. Being locked into the 3 - 4GB limitation is what I want to escape.
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More of the same thing I'm afraid. Being locked into the 3 - 4GB limitation is what I want to escape.
Then wait for the next gen nvidias, they aim to raise video memory considerably.
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Already said that Ripley. Thanks for keeping up.
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Already said that Ripley. Thanks for keeping up.
Ah right you did. But OTOH Nvidia has always had inflated prices so they can probably sell stuff at a much lower margin if the hardware cost is initially higher.
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first 280X was a dud, was making artefacts out of the box :rolleyes:
Second one is aok :aok I had second thougts about not buying the new chipset with the 290 series but the 280X has great value and is a quiet card.